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The 375 winchester operates at 52,000 cup.So 45.000 is a little light . I am sure the 300 grain jacketed bullet can well exceed 2000 fps in the 375-450 since I am getting 1950 fps with the 300 grain in the stock 375 and there is no signs of pressure . But for now its a guess .

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Thanks Earl and everyone . I need to check the case volume as well .Since my grizzly ammo loads, the 300 grain hawk are 1950 fps in my rifle , i MUST be able to get quite a bit more than 2000 fps on the 450 case which also has heavier brass , I would think , or NO its not worth it . I was thinking 2...

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Thanks,have you tried the Hawk Bullets ? They make three jacket thickness options and will make up to a 300 grain flat point in the .375. I used the thin jacket in my .375 Winchester in the 300 grain and it shot from just behind the last rib , all the way up into the esophagus of a 450 Pound Euro bo...

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Thanks Buck . Regan would handle the job . I guess no one else here has heard of the results of such a wildcat then ? I know it will work as the 450 was put in the 94 , I have one , but how good the ballistics will be , I do not know SOMEONE must have tried this combo . no ? Case dimensions that wor...

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uh ok , But I am not talking about a 40-375 . I have a Model 94 Timber carbine in 450 Marlin and a wide body big Bore model 94 in 375 Winchester. Regan Noneman who did some work for me in the past , said its an easy convert on the 375 , using the 450 carrier. Grizzly cartridges loads a 375 Wincheste...

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I have a 375 Winchester Big Bore . I was thinking of making it a 450 marlin- 375 .Anyone done this , ballistics ? Thanks

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Dear CRS, I sent you a PM and email ,THANKS !!!

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Thanks for the reply, I was guessing around 1700 fps . Your correct those must be old figures for old guns , the new 95 , also chambered in 06 can easily handle 55-60,000 Psi. My gun would not need a compressed load , as the barrel was throated so the slug could be set out a lot further with out tou...

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I have MODEL 1895 , the new Japanese one from Winchester that I had modified , in magazine and throat to take some longer 400 grain slugs as I heard was being done in some rifles being taken to Africa and using the 400 grain loads . I had some hawk , mid thickness jacket 400 grain soft nose jacketed...

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Well its 2012, hard to believe it BUT I JUST GOT THE GUN !!!!!! I had a nightmare of a time with Cap in the end and had to have the gun sent to Reesers in Pa to fix all the myriad of problems that came from him. It got so bad, when I demanded he send the gun to another shop to fix , he refused to ev...

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what he said , doesn't jam ????? You said you have to work the lever hard to keep it from jamming so I don;t know what this last post means.Anyone have a good number for Tom Lasiter who works on these ? I have 937-687-1039 but no answer or machine picks up so far

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Mine has never jammed , just either the shells don't come out in the lifter or go into the chamber and fail to extract . Cap claims to have fixed the stove pipe issues on his guns .

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Not correct . The new ones are SUPER strong .The gun was lab tested to over 50,000 psi and the action showed NO signs of any problems .They kept going until the lever bent , action still was perfect . WAY stronger than most any lever .They used to have the lab tests on Coyote caps site and Edd Hubel...

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It LOOKS that way , but mine feels like a half ounce of greased butter .

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Not sure what that means or has to do with my question. I have a 94 XTR Big Bore 375, 94 Timber carbine in 450 Marlin, model 95 in 405, model 71 converted to 50-110 and this is by far the smoothest and fasted to work with the less effort of all of them.

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I have a Coyote Cap limited edition gun ,I had him make as a custom piece . It has a heavy rifled barrel and is set up to shoot the longer 2 5/8 Brass cases made by Rocky Mt Cartridge to rifle specs, so much stronger than even a regular Brass 12 gauge hull. I waited a LONG time to get this done and ...

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I will let you know when I do . I have been trying like hell to get this done now for over a year I think and it seems very close .

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Well Cap is very proud of this gun he has built for me as am I and I am sure he will love to tell you all about it. The laser checkering was just done and the edwards recoil reducer is being installed in the butstock . The gun has a modified peep rear site , fiber optic front and leather cheeck piec...

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I dont know Nate but if he has any ideas on a better pin , forged etc for the lever I wish he would tell me if he can do that . This gun is NOT for cowboy action shooting but for big game (Boar ) and well just the hell of it !!!!!

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Caps model 87 is the strongest shotgun action made with an all forged reciever like an Ak-47 . As an example alll the guns out there like the remington pumps etc that shoot the Dixie slug all the time are only good for 18,000 to about 26,000 pounds before they fail . His model 87 was taken all the w...

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If you mean they are shooting the old guns and no problems ,that is interesting . I never heard of it either which is why I thought maybe some one else hear had . I wrote to the Winchester collectors site and asked about this problem but so far got no reply either way . Now cap also says the 1901 wa...

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A nice thought if that is all it was but actualy that is not what cap said . Here is a direct quote . " The lever wraps themselves are an absoulte NECESSARY ( he made that a capitol letter not me ) safty item ,meant to cover and retain the split pin and keep it from falling out , leaving the sh...

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I noticed the Chiappa model uses a solid lever and used some other way to fix the problem. I agree it is really a 1901 as far as the lever goes but I really hate that you might need that leather wrap to keep the pin from falling out or getting a bloddy hand . Surely a screw in head on both sides etc...

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Gary what I said ,in rereading your reply is in agreement with what you wrote . What I said was the 1901 was the same gun as the 87 EXEPT THE 1901 DID HAVE THE JOINTED LEVER AND FIX AS I DESCRIBED AS WELL AS IT WAS A 10 GAUGE . It would seem his story is accurate since the 1901 DID have the two piec...

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His words are " to correct the problem Winchester engineeers simply put a hook and spring set up under a pivoting two piece lever on the model M-1901 10 gauge " he then goes on to say it failed after a while because of the higher pressure of the 10 gauge .

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Not so , his story goes on that that the fix I mentioned WAS done in the 1901 model which is the same as the 87 by the way ,exept it was a 10 gauge and had the new spring set up to correct the flaw , worked until those guns were used and because of the extra pressure of the 10 gauge they also failed...

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I have a model 87 being finished with a fully rifled 12 gauge barrel . Coyote Cap is doing this . I was asking him why they need to have that funky leather wrap on the jointed lever when all of the orriginal 87's had a solid handle ? He told me the orriginal ones had a fatal flaw in them , in that t...

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ok won that barrel and now I need a gunsmith with machinest skills who can cut these threads and instal it . I spoke with Kirk a while back , explained what I needed and he said he would get back to me but did not so I don't know if he can do it or not . Seems pretty easy really for any machinest wh...

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Thanks Im bidding on a hastings barrel , does he have diamond cutting equipment ? I heard the Hastings barrels are VERY hard steel and need realy good cutters to thread . Briley can do a choke tube but the rifled barrel is my first

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Thanks for the Info on the AR forum I am awaiting approval . where is it on the Grey beard one , I just searched for the caliber and gun and got nothing ?

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Yes the 70-150 was an experiment , but the gun used for that experiment was supposed to be the 1887 action acording to Cap . The Magnatech I think are plenty strong for what I need , Very good performance is being obtained with 2 3/4 magnum slug loads which is enough for me in the this project and p...

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I just signed up for the AR forums ,which one was this on , lever actions , etc ? Thanks

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Yes those are made for cowboy action , when he heard what I wanted it for, he told me about that drop and it would be stocked without that and a recoil pad as ther Alaskan Guides gun was . I have been told maybe er-shaw can do it and if not Briley can add a three inch rifled choke tube but I would r...

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actualy in talking to cap . he said he made major improvments in the orriginal design and the gun uses the same steel as the AK's that company makes . He said it will handle any high pressure load with ease that any 12 gauge can . WAY more than then orriginal version as well . One just went to an la...

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spoke to cap at coyote-cap who has done great work to make their 1887 lever action shotgun top notch and he told me some of his buyers had told them they are getting rifled slug barrels to fit this gun to sort of duplicate the old experimental Winchester 70-150 lever action. cap told me not many peo...

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Microlon GUN JUICE , manufactured by Microlon is suposed to impregnate the metal with a micro thin dry film . You can look them up on the web. I can tell you if you put it on gun metal you CAN'T put a finger print on it .

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interesting . Gives some credence to products like Microlon that I have some of . Great for finger prints .Will try it , it operates so it says by using this heat etc to fill in the pores , improving velocity and accuracy after using it in the bore between shots for ten shots , adhering it to the an...

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I did not have to loosen the band or screw from the tube it as was never real tight to start with when I got the gun . When we checked it, it was relatively easy to move those screws so it was left as is . I was allways told it was when they are under heavy pressure they can cause accuracy problems ...

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I said that wrogn it doesnot have the normal frontal barrel band or screw from a full mag tube . it has one barrel band in the rear that is loose and the mag tube screw is not tight and of course not at the muzzle . My gunsmith, Reesers In Pa said when he looked at it this and shot it is allmost fre...

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Thanks for the acurizing tips but I think this is a gun now that may just need to shoot with a dirty barrel . Everyone keeps saying when the gun warms up the problems start but remember mine is the opposite . After a few shots it gets real accurate , so nothing is warming up and putting pressure to ...

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No its a 28 inch barrel model 71 Browing and 2.85 is about it , and that was after some extra work .

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Yes I am and you could be right about those short slugs , do you think the 45-90 would be better for longer slugs ? would the 45-90 actualy develop higher velocity with heavier slugs ?

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Their is if I make it !!!!!

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Im talking about a 50-110 winchester necked to 45 caliber . Same length as a 50-110

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I thought so ,to long . Think I will get a 45-70 model 86 Browning and do the reaming for 45-110 . I saw a lightweight model that looked nice but probably should get the fukll weight barrel for heavier loads . I want a Winchester type.

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a 45-120 in a lever gun ?

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I know their was a 45-110 . Many 50-110'a are made and I love mine ,but I never saw a 45-110 ? With all the talk of 45-70 vs 416 0r 458 it seems the answer is just go to the 45-110 . Its the same bore just a longer case , more velocity , eaiser to load heavier bullets in and you could still shoot 45...

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In your case it sounds as though heat is the culprit . My gun is locked in a lead sled type device so the pressure is constant and equal . Only thing is as mine gets dirty and hot the accuracy increases , . I can think of two possible reasons .1 The barrel is to small for the slugs as it heats and e...

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actualy warming is not the problem but the fix , bad when cold good when warm. It makes no scientific sense to me at all that by adding debris in the barrel which would by its nature be random in size and amount , increase accuracy some how , which means random dirt , scattered in a random pattern i...

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it is when it is first fired , clean that it strings them . I have not waited for it to cool down again dirty to try . Non the less it is constant go tho the range first shots string , after four or five shots it groups . You can switch the loads next time and get the same results , the ones that sh...

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