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Leverluver

The "cop killer" aspect deals with those intentional made to NOT expand. Obviously Barnes and others that will come later, made to expand, have no issues with the cop killer rule, even though they are a monolithic material.

Leverluver

Also 40-90 SBN (from Starline 45-2.6"), beginning to do 45-75, and 348AI (no big deal, just pull the trigger).

Leverluver

Speaking for us few folks out in the boonies still struggling with dialup, please don't add unecessary graphics clutter. The reason I like this (at least the old) site was that I could actually use it. Sites like the CAS 76, I've totally given up on. I can go home and eat five times and have to shav...

Leverluver

Only THE very last run of 405s were DTed. I have the next to last of the faux CCH version and it is not DTed. My friend's faux CCH takedown IS DTed.

Leverluver

You mean you actually hunt them? All I would need to do is drive the one mile from my shop to my house at the speed limit (65) after dark. I could get 10 or 12 a year and don't need a gun to do it.

Leverluver

Yes, the Marlin is too short to handle the 2.8" 348.

I don't think there are any more "good" 358 flat point bullets than 348s.

Leverluver

I think they would be OK. I pulled the bullets and tested them from 1100fps to 2300fps. They open well on the low end and they flat came apart on the upper end BUT you will never see anything close to those velocities. You are not even going to see anywhere near 2100fps. The initial runs with the tw...

Leverluver

John Boy Thanks for the dimensions. I thought that was you that posted them before but all those old threads have vanished. Also thanks for the offer of the drawing but I have made up my mind. I will size cases and spec the reamer to match whatever comes out of the die. I had thought that if they we...

Leverluver

WOW, :shock: you've got more problems than a hardened neck from just the forming process. The body shouldn't have been work hardened to any great degree and it is split also; obviously from trying to conform to the oversized (in relation to the brass) chamber. I've never seen new brass split like th...

Leverluver

If the purpose is solely to keep the cases from splitting on the first firing, maybe annealing AFTER the forming would do a better job. Annealed before is still going to get work hardened in the process of forming. After and the stresses would be relieved and the case would easily take the shape of ...

Leverluver

Thanks Hobie. I'm pretty sure someone has already posted the Jamison info on the old Leverguns or maybe SASS and I just thought that you might have saved it. I did save the SASS links but they are no longer available and you can't even Google the old leverguns anymore; well at least you can't open i...

Leverluver

Hobie I did a search on this forum (and your blog) and didn't come up with what I wanted. It is probably on the old forum that I have zero success searching. What I need is the head and shoulder diameter of factory TenX loaded ammo. Also the distance from the front face of the rim to the ege of the ...

Leverluver

What you did is certainly the best way to go to not diminish the rifle's value. I agree that it doesn't look as beautiful as the rifle but they do work well. game keeper: The 71, especially in the carbine has a pretty good bark to it. I wouldn't want a tang sight on it even if one did fit without al...

Leverluver

Hornady does not make them anymore. A few places may have some remaining supplies but, other than that, about the only other maker is Gator Checks. Bullet Swaging Supply (home of Larry Blackmon's Gator Checks) 303 McMillan Road West Monroe, LA 71291 (318) 387-7257 Fax (318) 325-7034 If you don't nee...

Leverluver

"a friend of mine called Lyman with specifications that are incorrect with the Lyman resizing die. Off my tongue, don't remember the exact details but Lyman's Tech said ... 'Oh shi**" OK, we need more details (dimensions). Please get with your friend and find out what the discrepancy was ...

Leverluver

I'm certain that us "small" band of 45-75 brothers are boring the heck out everybody else but I find this whole conundrum fascinating. Hobie, I presume that when you were having forming problems you were talking about with the larger base 50-90 brass and from that you thought ,or were told...

Leverluver

"Is anyone using Lyman dies finding that they size a LOT?" From what I've seen, all brands of 45-75 dies "size a lot" if you mean do they push the shoulder back much more than required for the round to freely enter the chamber. I don't know whether that is the fault of the die di...

Leverluver

Along with the rim dimensions, it would also be interesting to know what the outside neck diameter is with a .459 bullet seated and then compare that to a modified 348 with the same bullet.

Leverluver

I hate all the extra safety "junk" as much as the rest of you but, in truth, the new M95s are the least obnoxious of the "lawyered" Winchester replicas. My 405s trigger pull is just as good as my 30-40 Browning (which is good). The action is no harder to operate so the mainspring...

Leverluver

I like to be able to use cast in a pinch and the 270 is not the greatest for that, at least not for hunting. My main complaint is that the 270 has no historical connection to the 95 what so ever. Yes, neither does the 35Whelen but at least it is more practical than the 270 for what I would use it fo...

Leverluver

If the 270 makes sense to you, you and a few others are in a definite minority :wink: . I see little sense in a high speed 300+ yard cartridge in a gun with open sights. It will never happen because of NIH (not invented here) but the most practical cartridge that they could have chambered the 95 in ...

Leverluver

Good luck finding one of the 95s in 270. They were the least favorite caliber that the modern 95s were chambered in. They sold poorly and the few that did get out were targets of conversion to other cartridges like the Hawk series, or 35 Whelen, or even 405 before the 405 was a factory option. In fa...

Leverluver

What is the rim diameter and thickness of the Starline 50 AK?

Leverluver

The Brownings are copies of the later model Winchesters. They are all the short tang version.

Leverluver

Sorry I didn't find that case form lube yet. If you want to try some of my 50/50 lanolin/castor let me know. I can get that right out. Did you find your old jar of lube?

Leverluver

I forgot about the narrow mouth of the Lee primer. Luckily I have one of the old, old Lee cricket primers (aluminum and one at a time) that will handle the situation. I'm leaning toward the 50 AK like you. I'll save my 348s for my estate sale :wink: Maybe you can clear up some confusion. 1) Modified...

Leverluver

Somebody sure spent a lot of time making a 71 look like an 86. They must have preferred the 86 style. Even Harold Johnson preferred the 86 action in a lot of cases, especially with the 50AK. I presume that you have double checked the action serial number as being in the 71 range. Whatever the case, ...

Leverluver

I'm also going to take a serious look at 50-70 cases. Only problem is that they are more expensive than 50 AK. A lot of people aren't going to want to mess with long trimming sessions and the 50-70 would solve that. Also, a lot of bullets won't crimp in their designed groove with a 1.88 case though ...

Leverluver

I never had much use for the "Pam" sprays. In fact, that's why you got lube dents; the spray spits out in droplets that causes the dents. I'll redouble my efforts to find that stuff and get it on it's way. BTW, I don't think it was Imperial. I think it was Rooster Red brand ??71 or somethi...

Leverluver

Hobie

I still haven't found that darn lube yet. I know I saw it about a week or so ago but can't catch up with it now. When I do, I will send it on to you.

How did you solve the extra stress (beyond what you were doing before) of sizing down the larger 50 cal bases?

Mike

Leverluver

I don't think there are any "regular" spitzers that will work in any of the cartridges that the LR bullets are made for. All of them would make the cartridge too long to feed and/or chamber. In case they did anyway; well Darwin still has some work to do.

Leverluver

Think on this a second; 1) the Xs are already hollow points 2) the hollowpoint does not get any larger as it goes down so cutting it would not increase the size of the of the hollow point. 3) when you cut it off, you will then have a much thicker jacket mouth at impact, which will impede opening rat...

Leverluver

That was me. :D That's why I'm sending Hobie my sizing wax. I don't need it anymore. BTW Hobie, now I have to go find it but I will get it on the way as soon as I do. Kirk While you're on the horn, one guy mentioned that screaming Alliant load for the 38-40. Was that you that tested it and thought i...

Leverluver

"Also, all but the B-92 have an inertia firing pin (as do the Miroku Winchesters.)" Besides the 92 (before our colleges cranked out too many lawyers) the Browning 95 also does not have an inertia firing pin. "My assumption is that this is to prevent the firing pin from contacting the ...

Leverluver

I don't have any 50s to measure but the only source I have for the 50s does say a head of .565. I don't know how accurate that is but if that is a real measurement, that would be a grunt to size. Could you measure a couple 50-70s to check those figures. Sort of curious and surprising that the 348 wh...

Leverluver

That 38-40 load was published in one of the Alliant Powder reloader guides. The numbers 73sTB quoted were accurate but I don't have much faith in the data. Someone on here (Kirk?) tried it in a 92 and never got to the quoted velocity and had definite signs of pressure. I certainly would never stick ...

Leverluver

Hmmmm??? Then why in the heck do the darn things swell up when fired in the chambers?

BTW, I just measured an unfired factory round and a fired case from my 348 AI and both measured .546.

Leverluver

Hobie As I'm sure you have already found out; RCBS "stuff" is stuff for severe forming. Please explain the problem your die is having with the case head. Since the case head diameter of the 45-75 is actually bigger than the head of the 348, I wouldn't even think that the die would contact ...

Leverluver

What kind of lube are you using? I make 40-90BN out of Starline 45-2.6 and they go through like poop through a goose. 99% success rate. 50 to 45 is no more severe than that.

Leverluver

My photo capabilites are at a stand still until I get a new computer. My old camera uses floppies and the floppy drive in the puter died. Sorry. I didn't order any special wood on either my saddle rifle or the #3 but both were supposed to come with (forget what they call it) one grade up from the bo...

Leverluver

Hobie

Have you tried squishing a 50 Alaskan into the die and trimming? If I didn't already have 1500 rounds of 348, that's what I would do.

Starline would be great but I would be happy if they just made a short (1.9") 50 basic with a thinner (.058"?) rim.

Mike

Leverluver

Unless you special ordered it, I doubt your barrel will be any thicker than mine. My barrel is big enough to have an 80 cal hole in it and have lots of meat to spare :D . Mine weighs 9.2# (smaller hole, pewter nose cap). I was hoping for closer to 8.5 but it didn't happen. Even so, it is still "...

Leverluver

If you are going to hunt with them, those 26" half oct are sure much easier to pack around. Mines a 40-90 so yours will be lighter yet. Sounds like a great choice.

Leverluver

Old Bear Don't feel like the Lone Ranger; mine also has a pretty weak spring in comparison to other Brownings, and no it was never altered, (for those that wonder). I've seen several Browning 71s with very mild springs. Even though they are mild, they always have set the primers off. Your's is obvio...

Leverluver

My Uberti 45-60 sluged .4573". It would be kind of odd for the two 45 cal barrels from the same manufacturer to be different other than the chambering. I shoot .459 just fine. Even so, I did find that I also had some leading at the muzzle. I attribute the leading to the long barrel, the bullet ...

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