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My last post on this boring subject , my Winchester buttstock .

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My range was closed all weekend due to some special event but next week I’ll be there with bells on.. I’d like to see what that 45-90 does to a bull elk!

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I should clear this up a little, it was not just trouble with the safety but I could not get the tangs seated without removing all that wood. It took a couple of hours trial fitting then taking a little more off and on and on until it was fit. I do want a nicer piece of wood for the Winchester but I...

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Well to be fair some of the other innards of the browning wood are also different. I had to remove quite a lot however. Tomorrow I’ll take the buttstock off the Winchester and post a photo of that , they now look the same.

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Now the dimensions are the same as the Winchester . Big difference!

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I hope anyone interested can see this. This is the Miroku browning 1886 buttstock, to get a complete fit I had to relieve a lot of wood, all the way back to where you see the line I placed. Otherwise the safety wouldn’t function.

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Mine does , but I had bedded it to the browning which makes a big difference. Thanks for the info!

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Actually since my first post I found an older browning 86 stock which I replaced with nicer wood several years back. I spent about 20 minutes with a file and have it about 3/4 there but I do find that the tangs on the Winchester I have are a little wider than my browning, enough to have to remove mo...

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You’re making me hungry !!

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It should look more like this!

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Lol not yet. I’m just not sure I like the wood on it. I’ve done a few things that I think have improved on it somewhat , added a little stain and mixed with blo but I’m thinking it deserves some better looking wood. Also I’ve yet to ream the throat so that remains to be done. If I’d found the 45-90 ...

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Many thanks for the response, I kind of thought the tangs and all else would be the same, interesting I called Midwest gunworks they said they didn’t know and they sell their products , go figure !

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Anyone know if the buttstocks on these two rifles are interchangeable ? And would the tang safety on the Winchester be in the way as far as fitting. Macon tells me he has a pattern for the Browning version , my new 86 is the Winchester!

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Thank you for all the advice guys.....I knew yall would have an answer. Grizz, you make it sound so easy, but I just don't have the nerve to try lol. I think I am going to give the folks at Williams a call as was suggested. I'm hoping that at most I only have to either have a dovetail cut for the f...

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Good advice!

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Ive built 5 of them over the past few years, have dpms also and no problems except a creep in the trigger pull using dpms parts. You just building the lower and intend to buy a complete upper? cmmg makes a good lower parts kit and jd machine and delton are good lowers in my opinion.

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My trigger has forward flop in it, but it has a nice crisp let off when shooting. Does yours creep a lot when shooting or just have a lot of loose movement? I think the loose movement is normal, but many people switch out for a Wild West trigger to make it not happen. I am going to do that when I g...

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Today at the range after about a half dozen shots i cranked in another one to fire and noticed the trigger suddenly had alot of play in it, the trigger is usually firm with the hammer cocked. I emptied the gun and worked the action again this time a firm trigger pull then after another 3-4 times cyc...

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Not a high grade just a grade 1. I looked at it and couldnt believe it. I paide 1250 for mine about a year and a half ago.

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For target practice their is Rainbow Shooting club off the 15 and rainbow blvd exit. $145 a year and you can go 7 days a week including holidays. lots of rednecks there, my kinda people. from hemet about 30 minutes.

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kimwcook wrote:That '86 is in almost better shape than my Winoku '86, but they can have it for that price. Whew.

14 minutes left and no bidders looks like they will keep it.

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Wow that is cherry but unfortunately out of my league.

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Not complicated at all. Ive tried several rust blue solutions, one from brownells and another one that i dont remember off hand. The most simple one ive found is called Mark Lees rust blue solution. You simply degrease what you want to blue, (I degrease with acetone) , then heat the metal with a hea...

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Ive tried it on small parts like buttplates and other items. At first i thought it did a really good job but like other cold blues it wears off pretty quickly. Since then ive gone to rust bluing which really does hold up well and is pretty easy to apply. It doesnt look exacltly like a hot blue but i...

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want magnum primers buy remington?

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Yep, I've burned lots of it. My lot# is BAJ 47683 and it is somewhat faster than H-335. I bought it to use in the .223 back when I was involved in High Power competition but, have found it useful for other purposes. The loads I have found for MY rifles are: .30-30-- 25 grains with the Lyman 311407;...

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Sure, let me know how it pans out for you and we'll compare notes.

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That's correct Sgt. I just ordered it and haven't tried it yet but everything I've read tells me it's very good powder. I was hoping someone else here had tried it and would let us know how they liked it. I'm going to try it first in my ar-15 then my 45-70s.

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The prudent thing to do is start 10 percent lower when using wc844. I understand it's close to 335 but some lots are a little faster. Same with wc297 and 4895 if you can find it.

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J Miller wrote:Just an slightly off thread question, but is there a surplus version of Win 748?
I use more of that than any other rifle powder.

Joe

Joe, im not sure about 748. I know that 4895 is available from time to time as surplus. They do have wc297 which is equivalent to 296.

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damienph wrote:I don't know anything about it but where did you order it from? 8# for $85; is it still available?

Im getting it from widners. Another source is pats reloading who sells it at the same price.

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Anyone tried this powder? I just ordered 8lbs at $85.00. Supposedly its close to h-335, maybe a little faster. Interested to hear about anyones experience with this.

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Know what? That model 550 was my first rifle my dad bought me when I was 12. it broke my heart when it was stolen from my home in 1979 along with many others. That is a very good shooting rifle and highly functional. Im glad you found one.

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gary rice wrote:Just curious if anyone has used cast in the model 70 and what the results were. Those 500 grain hdys are getting expensive. Ive been thinking about the beartooth 525 grn cast with a gas check.

Wow kewel and nice shooting. TKS for the info now ill order the beartooths and try em out.

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Just curious if anyone has used cast in the model 70 and what the results were. Those 500 grain hdys are getting expensive. Ive been thinking about the beartooth 525 grn cast with a gas check.

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I had exactly the same problem and I replaced mine with a green fiber optic. As for the stuck sight in the dovetail I had ythe same trouble as well. I used a small pin point butane torch to add a little heat, and then tapped, still no luck so a little more heat and try again. The third time was a c...

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Im having a little trouble seeing the front sight so my original thought was to order a marbles front sight with a 3/32 bead rather than the 1/16 bead that appears to be on the gun. The wider bead on my 1895 cowboy gives me no grief at all and I can see it clearly. But i was thinking if i just repla...

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Hi Joe that helps alot thanks very much.

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Im in a hotel room with no calipers at the moment. Does anyone know the approx heighth and width of the factory front sight for the marlin 1895 cowboy?

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Sixgun wrote:Hey! Somebody has to feed, clothe, house, and take care of the medical problems of all these Mexicans sneaking into our country. ------------Sixgun

Yeah, guess we're elected.

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This is becoming more common throughout california. County and local governments are starved for cash as we all know. CHP has been ordered to step up notices to appear and the same for county sherrif depts. Its all about revenue, theyre revenue cops nothing more.

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The more extreme the situation gets in Kalifornia the easier it will be to defeat them in the courts. Some of Kalifornia's proposals blatantly violate the interstate commerce clause. California has lost lawsuits on that basis several times before. As for me I long ago stopped doing business with Ka...

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I hadent heard that primers and powder are a prohibited item for internet sales in calif.

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A few years ago this topic was chased around here. There was one additional item brought up then. It was out of Florida from a company (actually a one-man operation, I think) called One Raged Hole. He made peep inserts for open sights. I got one and installed on my Ruger Bisley and it was great. Se...

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I like the looks of that skinner sight, do they make it in blue also?

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Well i tried out my home made version today and im satisfied it will work for me. My only problem was that it shot a foot high at 75 yards with the step elevator down at the bottom. This isnt a problem because i soldered on the washer too high so ill correct that this weekend. It wont be a target ri...

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You might have seen these sights Marble's makes - part 'peep' part 'open' . Saw the very top off, and you'd have kind of a 'buckhorn' concept, as well. http://media.midwayusa.com/ProductImages/Medium/132/132532.jpg http://media.midwayusa.com/ProductImages/Medium/679/679676.jpg The view really does ...

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You might have seen these sights Marble's makes - part 'peep' part 'open' . Saw the very top off, and you'd have kind of a 'buckhorn' concept, as well. http://media.midwayusa.com/ProductImages/Medium/132/132532.jpg http://media.midwayusa.com/ProductImages/Medium/679/679676.jpg The view really does ...

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Don't know if this works but I took it off an 1893 Marlin before I had a chance to shoot the rifle. Its from the turn of the century so the idea is not new. After thinking about it, I don't see why not, but with the reduced sight radius and the large opening, it probably would not be any better tha...

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It's more than interesting, ive been thinking about this very thing in fact. Hows it working out for you? I originally used the semi buckhorn sight that came on my marlin cowboy and after getting used to it i could shoot it alright at 75 and 100 yards but when i went to a peep sight it changed every...

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