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Bryan Austin

I make a habit to not shoot jacketed bullets in any of my old rifles. I've got no problems at all using light smokeless loads, but considering these guns are still shooting well after over 100 years, I'm not going to shoot jacketed bullets down old softer steel barrels. One or two shots a year for ...

Bryan Austin

Just wondering if anyone has used this bullet on game in revolver or carbine? Any idea if it will be suitable for medium game at carbine speeds? Reduced to 44 WHV velocities, it works great! Not Mine! 44/40 - 200gr Hornady XTP @ 1500fps. Bullet entered just in front of the right hind leg, angled fo...

Bryan Austin

I make a habit to not shoot jacketed bullets in any of my old rifles. I've got no problems at all using light smokeless loads, but considering these guns are still shooting well after over 100 years, I'm not going to shoot jacketed bullets down old softer steel barrels. One or two shots a year for ...

Bryan Austin

Question #1, is quickload results for the 44-40 in CIP or CUP or PSI? (or is that three questions? :-) ) Have you seen my Reloder 7 pressure test results? 25.6 Reloder 7, 215 LRNFP, Accurate 43-214A (215gr), 1,435fps, 10,542psi, 12,461cup, 4" Groups at 100 yards and 14 3/8" x 24" at ...

Bryan Austin

Here is something I posted back in June on another forum. The only "closeness" or resemblance between the two cartridges would be the use of 240gr bullets. The mag can not perform optimal with slower burning rifle powders much slower, if at all, than the 2400/IMR4227 area burning powders.....

Bryan Austin

Looking at the 44 Magnum rifle loads in Lyman's 49th, Lyman calls for 240gr 429667 with a max load of 20.6gr of 2400 for 1,686fps. No pressure data, and used in a Model 94E 20". The same load used in a 4" Universal Receiver (test barrel) produced 1,268fps @ 38,900cup. Does not say if a ven...

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Bryan, can I ask if there are any load data using 2400 powder to get to that HV power in rifle length barrels? I'm interested in this as it would also apply to a 44 mag rifle. Im looking at either running stout loads of unique or power pistol to get there, or lesser loads of 2400. Not sure how low ...

Bryan Austin

....reloader 7. Has anyone developed any 44 mag loads utilizing this powder or is it suitable? If you can not answer his simple question, why reply? Grab the keg! The popo is here :lol: This forum would go dormant if it wasn't for thread drift.. It obviously wounded you! ;-) It drifter so far, it w...

Bryan Austin

Hi bryan, thread is 13 years old but was resurrected by the aussie guy Preid a few posts up as he needed a powder substitute. Great info btw, I believe I actually quoted it including some of your results which were sent to me by ed harris. :) (Didnt realise you were on these forums until a couple d...

Bryan Austin

So playing around in QuickLoad -- it looks like with the benefit of modern powder formulation -- a feller could build a 1500 fps load and squeek under the 13k cup pressure limits for the old '73. According to QL that would be 24.5 grains of RL-7, 200 grain jacketed bullet loaded to 1.590" COAL...

Bryan Austin

All of them, and all of the 73's. Nothing anywhere in any Winchester documents states otherwise. The only exceptions are noted below. By 1895 Smokeless powder was offered for both the 73' and 92', as so stated on the box. Not only does the main call-out mention the "Winchester Rifle Model 1873&...

Bryan Austin

....reloader 7. Has anyone developed any 44 mag loads utilizing this powder or is it suitable? If you can not answer his simple question, why reply? Gary, great question. I will certainly try this very soon myself just to see how well they work out. Rest assured they will be more like low recoil/re...

Bryan Austin

Fellas wondering how the HV loads for the 44-40 that came out in the early 1900's were viewed by hunters? By HV I mean the 1500fps odd loads with 200 grain bullets. Was the 44-40 still quite popular in this period and these loads considered great new medicine? Or was its popularity dropping off and...

Bryan Austin

Here is a basic probable pressure timeline from 1874 to 2022 It shows that when Winchester switched from smokeless rifle powders to smokeless pistol powders, performance suffered. https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/QCE6TeLThjPzYcuYbkPZxko9fCG2oQkP3LmKiJWxxVJHRuvIfSRQWVCXBoRhmiykMDfH2iRY7lgzOxP2nDh2a3...

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Bryan Austin

She passed away in 2017, trying to get this law reversed. She regrated the law sit....and I bet you have no idea who she is.....she never even had an abortion. https://www.tiktok.com/@1jesussavedclay/video/7112972408750902574?is_copy_url=1&is_from_webapp=v1&lang=en&q=jane%20roe&t=165...

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Bryan Austin

There is just too much information for me to repost it all here, especially since there is only a link for photographs. For those that are somewhat following the progress, I have updated the Pressure Testing page of the 44-40 website with a large selection of test result charts to compare. The test ...

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Website and Google docs has been updated to reflect three new tests The 44-40 Google Docs "Pressure" Page has been updated to reflect the 3 new tests 1A, 2A&2B (re-tests for "control"), and test 90. I also updated a few other items by including the 1917 WRA data and highlight...

Bryan Austin

Is that a semi-balloon head? I thought a full balloon head actually had a folded rim with powder space there as well. I'm a bit too young to have ever opened one up though. Really enjoyed the videos. The names start getting long and confusing sometimes. #4 Solid-Head, Semi-Balloon Pocket download (...

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Here is the case failure using the Western balloon pocket case and 40gr of Swiss black powder. The ignition path is obvious in this photo.

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Bryan Austin

Ed Harris' 230gr 43-230G has been added to the new Reloder 7 230gr/240gr video...probably the best performing of the group. I personally used a Hornady SWC HP for hunting but never tested it. https://sites.google.com/view/44winchester/chasing-the-44-40/handloading-introduction/pressure-testing/press...

Bryan Austin

Over the past few years I conducted 83 ten shot tests using the PressureTrace II system. Recently I decided to try and open up a comparison chart using overlays in the Gimp editing software and make some videos out of them.. It is not the best but I think it is certainly good enough for discussions....

Bryan Austin

Why not? If you can't see the target, make it work. 265 Yards with an impact velocity of 900fps to 950fps Yes, I like doing this backwards! 278066668_2043277349186171_3466529296210890552_n.jpg 278247699_2046313752215864_4209934293953311142_n.jpg 278031419_2043277239186182_4542126909483877722_n.jpg 2...

Bryan Austin

The Battle of Königgrätz Say what? During the time between 14 June and 22 July 1866, the Prussians fought the Austrians. These battles were well observed by the Swiss. It was here that the Swiss decided that they were in need of modern breech-loading weapons. The Swiss made a Decree that they would ...

Bryan Austin

I learned how to do an overlay on Gimp

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Bryan Austin

Thanks Bill

I tried my luck at Gimp, this was kind of neat!!

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Thanks, I need to find someone that knows how to shoot to try it. I bet they could do better!!!

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Bryan Austin

This morning I finally got a chance to enjoy some range time. I wanted to replicate the Winchester Model of 1866 44 Henry 300 yard shots but using th e Uberti Winchester 73'. nothing is ever the same.... The 44 Henry was reported to be a 200gr lead bullet at 1,125fps. My loads were full 44-40 214gr ...

Bryan Austin

Great stuff Bryan, I read some of it years ago when I first learned about this site. Gonna keep it, read up again. Your hunting grounds looks just like mine. What is that scope and mounts? Looks like the one Josey Wales pulled out on his Sharps! It is a 6x Malcolm scope by Hi-Lux. I forget who make...

Bryan Austin

Sorry I am late to the party guys!! Also thanks for the kind words sixgun and 45Colt, they are greatly appreciated. I have been around the 44-40 Marlin rifle since I was a kid. I still have the Model 1889 made in 1891 that my dad purchased somewhere in the 1950's. I didn't shoot it much but I did hu...

Bryan Austin

Sometimes we all miss the point. Generally accuracy is only as good as the rifle AND ammunition. In this case it is the ammunition that has the edge, not necessarily the leveraction. Thus we need to find the best rifle that chambers said ammunition. By far the .30 cal types (.3xx) are typically the ...

Bryan Austin

I do believe all these different replies prove there is not one.

Bryan Austin

Interestingly, the whole point of trail boss is for reduced velocities in CAS and reduced loads in rifle cartridges. Aside from the reduced rifle loads such intended for high power rifle loads, full loads in high capacity black powder cases results in slow velocities at high chamber pressures. I can...

Bryan Austin

June 2016 issue of Handloader magazine

Hodgdon's Ron Reiber is credited with the following: "Reiber cautions that Trail Boss does not respond well to compression and becomes erratic in its performance--not dangerous, just erratic."

Bryan Austin

THanks for posting the photo of the original high velocity load, I haven't seen one of those before. I have them over here: 1. https://sites.google.com/view/44winchester/chasing-the-44-40/velocity/high-velocity-loads?authuser=0 2. https://sites.google.com/view/44winchester/chasing-the-44-40/velocit...

Bryan Austin

Winchester depth seems to very.
mine (left), Winchester factory case component (center), Magtech (right)

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Here is Winchester's 1903 High Velocity load.

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Bryan Austin

Well "I'll be a suck-egg mule"....nice!!!!!

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Carlson, we gotta put this on the website!!!

Bryan Austin

NICE!!!

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added a poll

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I added some basic fun rules to the doc. Let me know if the link does not work. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... sp=sharing

Bryan Austin

Here is a target example. It is that simple...I think

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Bryan Austin

I'm confused. What's the target and how many shots are we shootin' at it? Target of your choice...just try to be as accurate as you can with the group measurements. I use Balistic X on my phone and its great. Snap a "square" photo of your target. Crop it, open it in the all and follow the...

Bryan Austin

Yep... what size target, how far and allowed shooting positions? The rest will sort itself out. I zero my pistols for 50 yards. Keep it simple. I have that on the google docs. Bench rest, just try to keep simply as it relates to hunting methods Standing, what ever floats your boat Sitting, laying d...

Bryan Austin

I perform frequent inspections on my 73'. I pull out the guts and closely inspect for signs of wear. Unless that part is defective, it's not gonna just "let go", it will "talk to you if you listen"! A lot of guys shoot their guns like they drive their truck....they never work on ...

Bryan Austin

Howdy fellas. If you are interested in this type of thing, check it out here: This has been started over on the castboolets forum but is open to everyone. There are quite a few categories that should satisfy each shooter. Example: The categories are split based on bullet trajectory out to 300 yards,...

Bryan Austin

Are toggle links really the weak point? 44-40 Winchester - MAP/13,000cup/11,000psi 45 Colt - MAP/14,000cup/14,000psi 38 Special - MAP/17,000cup/17,000psi 44-40 W.H.V. - Winchester Claimed/22,000cup...possibly 18,000psi 44 Rem Magnum - MAP/40,000cup/36,000psi 357 Magnum - MAP/45,000cup/35,000psi Let'...

Bryan Austin

Today's adventure

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Bryan Austin

3leggedturtle wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 12:40 pm Nice. Gonna use the same loads as in the other 44wcf? But do you have any original Martini cadets? Todd/3leg

I got nothing, it aint mine...lol

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