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DPris

Gotcher new rifle ordered yet?

Denis

DPris

The brass Henry .45-70 has a 22-inch barrel & straight wrist stock.
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Checked.
Buttplate & barrel band are what they're calling a "common brass alloy".
The frame is a bronze/aluminum alloy.

You may get a slightly different chemical reaction.
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Plate & band may not react the same way, I believe different material.
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Sore,
I didn't take it that way.
Just pointing out there's room for varying opinions & preferences.

And slow people who need more room to maneuver.

Don't be so sensitive.

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I'm also usually awkward, frequently inconvenient, increasingly slow in recent years, and require more space to maneuver in nowdays.
But, I like to believe there's still a place for me in the modern world.
Keep telling my wife that, anyway....
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Doubt he'd know, but you might try calling their service department & asking.
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It's a hardened bronze-aluminum alloy.
Can't give you percentages, but aluminum is a part of the formulation.
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DPris

You coulda given an advance "POINT ALERT!"
Sometimes it can be hard to tell.

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The wood finish isn't a traditional "gun" varnish, it's more of an industrial grade wood floor finish.
Should be a shade more durable than what you normally see on gunstocks.
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If they're rollin' in dough, it's only because their guns are selling, despite that tube loading.

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Tac, First, let me correct your assumption- I am not Henry, I do occasionally work WITH Henry, but not FOR henry, and they're not my guns. :) The Big Boy Silver centerfire is a solid frame constructed with a slightly tweaked version of the hardened brass alloy used in the regular "gold" Bi...

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I am personally arranging for the catalog description to exclude chrome in the bore, just for Cat & Tac.

Happy to help.
No thanks necessary.
We live to serve.

The black oxide bore "treatment" isn't listed anywhere, as far as I know.
That may have to remain our secret.
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Life doesn't always give you everything you want. :) The set-up's still better'n a standard blued rifle in bad weather. Chroming the bore would've raised costs & made production more complicated. Along with the potential accuracy effect previously mentioned. The gun has better protection on its ...

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I argued that briefly when they were putting out the first centerfire model. Imperato wanted it, it stays. :) I can be a huge traditionalist in many areas, but once you get past that, it's a helluva lot easier on the loading thumb in longer shooting sessions, and there's really not much overriding n...

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Just a black oxide finish inside the bore.
Keep yer muzzle down in the rain....

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The point is to improve the weather resistance of Henry's carbon steel leverguns in those calibers, which it does.

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When the catalog says "hard chrome plating on all metal surfaces (except springs & sights)", you could conceivably take that to include the barrel.
NOT chromed inside the bore, though.

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It's the same general defensive mechanism that kicks in when the wife gets too loud.

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Never fired a shotgun in an enclosed space.
Reducing velocity reduces transmitted energy, at any distance.

Reduced velocity/recoil loads are still effective at close distances.
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Yes.
And Dragon's Breath.
And chained ball.
And buck & ball.
And 12-gauge shotgun flares.
And 12-gauge blanks.
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Not known for tight patterning.
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I bought a Hi-Standard at my first PD in '77.
Wish I'd kept it.

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I tried the frame-mounted carriers for several years, finally gave up.
They just got in the way.

But, that's only me.

I get by with Speedfeed stocks, at least a couple more rounds on board & those are not in the way.
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I have never done anything with the Estate brand, but I'd be astounded if you got anything even close to what the FC stuff does with it. The FC is slightly less effective in terms of tight patterning through a Vang ported barrel, but through everything else I've tried it in, there's nothing else tha...

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I wouldn't compare 00 Buck pellets to a .357. I wouldn't expect 00 Buck pellets to expand in soft tissue, unless striking a bone, and then it'd depend on the hardness of the pellet. And, for many of us, the patterning is as important as the power. I prefer tight patterns to extend ranges, and full-p...

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There are different Federal FC 00 Buck loads, for LE, reduced recoil/velocity, for any old body, etc. All I've tried have been uniformly better by a wide margin through several scatterguns than any other conventional 00 Buck load. Have not used the TAP, but if the wad's similar, should also be super...

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The tightest patterning stuff I've run across, and the load I carry in my 870s, is a Federal Flitecontrol 00 Buck. It can hold inside a B27 silhouette out to about 40 yards. The difference between it & "the rest" is quite substantial. Consistently tight through a number of different sh...

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They never were there.
Initial negotiations, county put money into the property, Colt never did anything with it & the deal eventually fell through.
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Colt's outa Kiss.
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Griff, While I can understand the sentiment involved with being shot at by AKs, I think the "anybody who'd have one is an enemy" thing is an unfortunate statement. No guilty conscience here. I have four & don't consider you an enemy. Also have a Mauser. No guilt. And a Walther P-38. Sa...

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Pisgah nailed it re Marlin.

And Henry is not "considering" a .223 levergun, it's a done deal.

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I will not participate in any further Marlin Bashing, so this'll most likely be my last attempt to pass this on to you guys. The Custom Shop is not a rumor. If anybody wants to give me an email address I can forward an image of the Marlin Custom Shop display at SHOT. We spent a good 20 minutes talki...

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That's most likely the barrel length they'll stick with.
It handles quite well as it sits.
A sighted version with a different stock angle may be on the horizon.
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Henry's re-doing their photos of the rifle, supposed to be re-sending one shortly, time-frame unknown.

And, in case you get looking for the gun, word this morning is that its name has reverted back to The Henry Long Range Lever-Action Rifle.
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Yeah, I shoulda known better than to post anything even remotely positive about Marlin.
Disregard.
How do we close this thread?

Too many die-hard Marlin haters in it.
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They're just starting up the shop, ask Vance what he saw at the Dallas Safari Club show. No link yet. There'll be more coming out of the SHOT Show this coming week. Carlos Martinez will be heading it up. Why would Marlin make a Mare's Leg? Because I'd PAY them to make a Mare's Leg. Non-standard and/...

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Nobody's questioning the idea that they totally earned bashing, including them. Just not eternal, endless, incessant, perpetual, inevitable, knee-jerk, every-time-the-name's-mentioned-anywhere, bashing. :) It IS possible for a maker to admit a serious error & correct it. If the currents PIPs wer...

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The PIPS (People In Power) involved at the time are no longer running the Marlin operation. Current PIPs are very much aware of the QC dump & the damage it caused to the brand. New attitude. They've invested millions in new equipment & training, and they're trying hard to bring Marlin's leve...

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Yeah, but not intentionally.
I've asked if I can forward a Henry-supplied image I have, no response yet.
I'll see what the answer is, but it's not a very clear image.
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The CS won't be able to fabricate guns that go beyond the base production models, so I don't know if you'll ever see a stainless 39 variant.

Anything coming out of the CS will have to start out with a production gun in some basic form.
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It'll be a slow start, give 'em a chance.
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My first request will be an 1894 Mare's Leg in .45 Colt.

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Nope, but there IS a thing about a techno-challenged forum member who doesn't know how & is too scared of the idea to learn.

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The mainspring was a little strong on this sample, which means it takes a little more effort to start the action cycling. That's under discussion at Henry & will probably be lightened a bit, depending on how far they can take it without compromising ignition. Once past the first 3/4 inch or so o...

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Just back from the range with four loads (three bullet weights).
31 degrees, total greyout, hazy.
The two best 100-yard 3-shot groups were a 150 at 7/16 of an inch & 1 inch even with a 178.

Leupold scope on it.
The gun can shoot.

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My wife said the same thing about me when we first got together.....

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Mo info:
Simpler breakdown & reassembly than the Browning, without removing the stock.
One-piece barrel, threaded into the receiver.
Browning has two-piece barrel, pressed into receiver.

Henry uses a better grade of barrel steel than 4140, and triple stress relieved.
Bolt is chromed.
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We have one.
Not particularly accurate with slugs.
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Long Ranger, again, has DETACHABLE BOX MAGS.

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