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 Post subject: Back from the hunt
PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 3:35 pm 
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Every late autumn I am gripped with the overpowering need to get out into the bush with an old Winchester. It is not just about harvesting a Whitetail Deer for the winter’s supply of meat. It is more than that. It is about spending time with various friends I have up in Northern Ontario, it is the smell of the cedars and the fallen leaves on the forest floor, the quietness, getting away from the crazy busyness of ‘normal life’ (if you can call it normal) and getting alone in the forest with God. It is one of the highlights of my year and immensely refreshing.

This year I hunted on the farm of some good friends of both my wife and mine, a 100 acre farm close to where my wife grew up. My rifle of choice was an original Winchester Model 53 in 44 WCF caliber, also known as the famous 44-40. Very few Model 53’s were ever made, and even fewer in 44 WCF. They are essentially an ‘extra light’ version of the Model 1892, with a tapered nickel steel barrel, a button mag, and a fluted shotgun butt stock. This particular one was made in 1928, and is shown in the photo below, along with the two empty casings from my hunt and my favourite bowie knife with the Sambar stag handle, that I used to clean and skin my animal.

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I had loaded my cartridges with 20 grains of IMR SR4759 under a 200 grain cast SAECO bullet for a velocity that chronographed at 1,460 fps. The bullet was soft cast out of pure wheel weights.

Before dawn I quietly disappeared into the bush and headed to the spot I had chosen the evening before ..... a low ridge of hardwoods bounded on one side by a very dense stand of cedars. The cedars are thick as hair on a dog’s back and so I figured they would act as a fence, channeling the deer along the low ridge of hardwoods. I get relaxed in the bush. In fact, after a couple hours, I was thinking of laying down against a nice, comfortable looking hump out of which a Silver Birch was growing and taking 40 winks. The thought of doing it, however, made me feel like a slacker, so I figured I would see how long I could fight off the urge. I pulled out my thermos mug of hot tea and began taking the occasional long pull. It was during one of those slow swigs, with my head tilted back and the cup pouring another belt of tea down my hatch, that I heard something rustling through the leaves coming toward me. With my gun across my lap, and the cup of tea in my right hand, I looked and there were two does standing 33 yards away staring straight at me. Dadgummit! Caught with my pants down again (figuratively speaking)! I closed the little hatch on the top of my thermos mug so I wouldn’t spill any tea, eased it down to the ground, picked up my 44-40, held the hammer under my thumb while I pulled the trigger so I could ease it back to full cock without making any ‘click’, then let go of the trigger, then the hammer, then raised the little rifle to my shoulder. There were a couple trees straight between me and the deer and I couldn’t shoot to the left of them. It was a difficult shot, crouching and leaning way over to the right to the point of almost toppling over. Both of the does were very nervous, staring straight at me, ears pricked forward and looked like they would bolt at any instant. I sighted down a narrow corridor between the trees, laid that front sight bead right on the larger doe’s chest and squeezed the trigger. The little camera in my head that goes off at the moment of firing confirmed that the front sight bead was still centered on that deer’s chest when the gun fired. In the photo below, taken from the exact spot I took the shot, you can see some orange marker tape on a sapling (the left marker tape ... the marker tape slightly to the right and higher marks the tree where the bullet stopped). The deer was standing behind the little tree with the left marker tape on it ....

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What happened next had me scratching my head for the past two days. Although I was certain that the bead had been on target when I fired, the bullet passed through the large bone of the deer’s upper front right leg, then entered the inside thigh of its right back leg, broke the major bone in the back leg (the femur), then exited and continued on. What puzzled me was that, with the doe standing facing me, it was impossible for the bullet to take that path without also passing through the bulging side of the deer’s body, but there was not a mark on its body. I wracked my brain over this for the past two days and finally concluded that as the rifle fired, the very nervous, twitching deer decided to launch itself to the left, pushing away with its two right feet planted. This would have splayed its two right legs out from its body with the upper right legs moving to the left, where its chest had been, so that the bullet could both go through the right front leg, and enter the inside of the thigh of the right rear leg, which normally would have been against the deer’s body, without going through the deer’s body.

I didn’t know this as I walked toward the deer until it raised its head and looked directly at me. Although it was down, it looked like it might get up and bolt at any instant, so I took a head shot from about 20 yards away. That bullet entered the front of the skull between the eyes, went through the brain, shattered the spine and deflected down, travelling down the neck and winding up somewhere in the lungs. They were a puréed mess and I forgot to look for the bullet as I was field dressing it. Total penetration was about 26 inches. I tracked the first bullet and found that after going through the main bones of both legs, it hit the top of a little hillock, plowed a furrow and then bounced up and hit a small sapling, knocking off a small area of bark and denting the wood slightly underneath. I searched around in the thick mat of fallen leaves at the base of the sapling, but never found that bullet either.

After cleaning the deer, I walked out and drove the truck up the nearest trail. My friend came in with me and we dragged the doe out and slung it up onto the hood of the truck to take it back to the farm yard. Here’s a photo of the field dressed doe on the hood of my old ’97 Suburban with almost 245,000 miles on it. ...

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 Post subject: Re: Back from the hunt
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Nothing like a well-used Suburban...

My '86 entered its debility showing 370,000+ miles.

You still have some to go.

Congrats on a fine hunt, with a fine rifle and cartridge.

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 Post subject: Re: Back from the hunt
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I have been waiting for this report KD.

Well done and this has to be post of the month :D

If I asked for a 44-40 over here for taking deer they would wet themselves laughing.
It's bad enough having to ask but asking idiots just finnish's it off a treat :roll:

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 Post subject: Re: Back from the hunt
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Great recount of a perfect hunt! Thanks and congratulations!

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Loved the story Kirk. Thanks. I could almost smell the cedars and feel the bite in the air.

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 Post subject: Re: Back from the hunt
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Congrats Kirk, I have enjoyed following the adventures of this pursuit these years I have been here.

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 Post subject: Re: Back from the hunt
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Way to go, Kirk. Does are strictly off limits in CA, dangit. One of these days I'm gonna have to spring for a 53, too. Maybe this weekend when we go to Reno, AND if "1886 fever" doesn't overwhelm me. :D

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A+++ Well done Kirk (great gun pic. as always) :D

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Nice going Kirk.
Not your typical weather for November eh? Short sleeves and a vest. No luck yet on my deer search. Could have had a spike on Saturday but on the wrong side of the fence. I have no permission on that side and there were a few hunters around. Play by the rules or don't play at all.
How is your herd population doing? Ours is very poor this year, two hard winters and high coyote population.

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Things i've found from hard experience when in uniform.



The radio always goes off when your just crammed the last quarter of a sandwich in your mouth.

Alarms always go off around the same time.....and people always wonder why my sandwiches are cut in half. :) Driving a Humvee at high speed calling reports in on a radio around half a sandwich sucks.

Half a cup of tea is better than a full, for most of the same reasons....

Always sip never chug. As you've found out why.

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The woods are always empty when you're on watch until suddenly something's right in front of you. :D


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iceman wrote:
How is your herd population doing? Ours is very poor this year, two hard winters and high coyote population.

Well, now that you mention it, There were very few deer taken on opening day up on St. Josephs Island where I was hunting (West end of Lake Huron). I passed by the deer weighing station three different times during the weekend and the folks there were standing around doing nothing with nary a deer carcass in sight. Furthermore, I went back to the kill spot several hours later to clean up the wipes I had used when field dressing the deer and noticed that Coyotes had completely cleaned up the gut pile except for the stomach and oesophagus. A local fellow said that the place is crawling with Coyotes.

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Same her kirk. Chatted with the local check in station Friday only 150 deer checked in after 1 full week of rifle season, black powder opened on the week end and not many shots heard. Usually after 1 week count should be in the 250 to 300 area. Guess I'll have to take up coyote hunting this winter. What to use, 30wcf, 300 savage, 356 win, or skip the levers and blast them with #4 buck from a 12ga? time will tell.

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Great story Kirk, congratulations.

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 Post subject: Re: Back from the hunt
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Thats a mighty fine feeling tagging a deer the way it was done long ago. Nice shootin' :D They claim the 44-40 has killed more deer than any other cartridge and you just added to the total. --------------------------Sixgun

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Great hunting Kirk. Alot of good meat with a fine old Winchester, can't beat it. No meat here yet, rifle season opens this weekend,I'll be back at it again.

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Kirk good shooting meat in the larder is result of a good hunter and using a vintage rifle makes it all the better. danny


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Some how the venison just taste better when harvested with an old Winchester. My grandson came for a visit this weedend and we had our favorite breakfast, backstrap, eggs, bisquits and gravy.

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Kirk, Great post, Great pics, Congrats!


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:D Great job Kirk !!

Use the shotgun and the #4 Buck....makes it more sporting :lol:

Nice choice of vehicles and color !! I know what you mean with the Suburban.......Love my '97 with 160K on the odometer.

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Great hunt and great story!

But I have to ask...

"I passed by the deer weighing station ..."

...?

(Don't have those in Texas...

...yet).


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