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30-30 Premium bullet test Part 3

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First - let me describe the second part of the test. The Buffalo Bore advertising mentions that it could shoot through several deer, and there's no reason to doubt that. On the internet you can find speculation regarding how each of these cartridges would do on moose or elk or bear. I put out one shoulder of the cow, propped up with the hoof in the air, against the back half of the body. This would represent the approximate thickness of meat needed to get ot the vitals on elk or moose as well as the shoulder bone. I backed off to 75 yards and fired a Buffalo Bore 190 gr load and a Speer 170 gr load. Both exited completely and burried themselves in the rumen. I couldn't dig the bullets out but I could see how far they went. A rough measurement of penetration is Buffalo Bore - 28"-30" and Speer 26"-28". Clearly either would make it into an elk or moose's vitals with at least one full lung and embedment in the other on a broadside shot.

Now the WOUND CHANNELS - The first 10.5" is head (skull).

The Hornady LE 160 gr-
The wound channel starts immediately with a significant "V" from the entry hole to where the bullet came to rest. The area along the bullet path that was destroyed was about 4 times the bullets biggest diameter at rest. The jacket and core completely seperated and the core was 1.5" in front of the jacket.

The Grizzly Hawk 170 gr-
The wound channel starts around 3" and instantly creates a square about 4 times bigger than the final biggest diameter (which is 2/3 bigger than the Hornady so keep that in perspective when figuring out how big the path was). The jacket and core seperated and the core was 2.5" ahead of and to the right of the jacket.

The Speer 170 gr Hot Core FP-
The wound channel starts around 5" into the skull, and it exits the skull a little smaller than it's final size. From the hole it looks like in 10 inches it expanded a little more than half of what it was going to. Don't forget it went another 10" in meat. The wound channel is a narrow hole for 5 inches, an oval for another 10 inches and the remaining 5 inches or so is a triangle about 1 inch in diameter.

The Buffalo Bore Hawk 190 gr -
The wound channel starts pretty quick. It shows expansion after just 3.5", and has to be the lead nose flattening out and becoming a larger metplat when it hit the initial skull on entry. The channel remains tubular and about 2" in diameter for most of the length of penetration. The last few inches increase to just over 3" in diameter.

HORNADY -
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GRIZZLY HAWK -
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SPEER HOT CORE (2) -
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BUFFALO BORE HAWK-
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Re: 30-30 Premium bullet test Part 3

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Stand by for wound channel pictures - they're stuck.......
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Re: 30-30 Premium bullet test Part 3

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HORNADY -
Note the soft, mushed up tissue surrounding the bullet jacket that went 12.5":
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SPEER -
You can see the torn, loose and damaged tissue in this wide, permanent wound channel over the 20" of penetration
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BUFFALO BORE -
Massive damage and permanent canal from this bullet from start to finish nearly 19" later
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GRIZZLY CARTRIDGE-
You can see how this wound channel projects outward from where the jacket and core came to rest, damaging a huge area in the 14" it penetrated.
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Re: 30-30 Premium bullet test Part 3

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Once again your tests are absolutely vital to us having the true knowledge of real world situations. :mrgreen:
Thanks Joe!
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