Brazilian wallnut? Rossi's wood?

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Brazilian wallnut? Rossi's wood?

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I don't no much about Rossi, but I've seen some real dark finished wood on them, almost black. I like it.......Can we get stocks for Winchester and Marilns made from it? Do you know what I'm talking about?

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If it is what I think, you may be the first! Usually folks are the other way around about a lot of their their "South American mystery wood," and many would like to replace their Rossi wood with genuine walnut - via Precision or other stock makers. What era Rossi are you talking about? The blackest I recall they ever got was what a lot of folks have called their black "mystery stain" (over lighter wood) they applied in the late interarms era.(Mid-late 1990s).
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gak wrote:If it is what I think, you may be the first! Usually folks are the other way around about a lot of their their "South American mystery wood," and many would like to replace their Rossi wood with genuine walnut - via Precision or other stock makers. What era Rossi are you talking about? The blackest I recall they ever got was what a lot of folks have called their black "mystery stain" (over lighter wood) they applied in the late interarms era.(Mid-late 1990s).


I love the Interarms older Rossi DARK wood. I have a few of them and I like them because they look almost like a gun that has been used for a while. Really dark and nice.
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Owen,

Rossi apparently, used whatever they could get their hands on. Jim Taylor showed us his, with the black gunk removed, though the buttstock came from a different gun:

http://www.leverguns.com/articles/taylor/rossi.htm

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Here is mine, after the previous owner stripped the wood:

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Yeah, that's neat. It's cool to see something different. I have to keep from making all my guns have the color and other elemments that what I call perfect, cresent butt, dark coffee color, case hardening, tang peep, checkering. I finally got one like that, but now I don't need all of them the same. One of my favorites is a 1895 CB Marlin and that is a lighter color and a shotgun plastic butt.

Maybe someone has a picture of that black wood?

Or anything else interesting?

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I read somewhere, maybe here, about people owning things made with exotic rainforest hardwoods being arrested for having "illegal, protected" wood in their profession. Pro guitar players, and pianists seem to be a target for inspection. I wonder...... :roll:
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I think that's a great color. I'll bet that most of us like that deep dark brown. Yet you might see a lite color now and then.

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Up until the early 90's Rossi had some decemt wood but through the 90's, probably because of the growth of the CAS game Rossi started doing some short cuts one being the wood. Rather than use matching wood for buttstocks and forend wood they used whatever was available but dyed it black so that it matched. Think of the time/money saved not having to keep the two pieces together through the assemble process.

Here is a pair of some of the last black wood guns made in the early 2000's.

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Steve what recoil pads are on those guns? I have some older gums with hard butt plates but arthtitis demands I use something a bit softer now.
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BAGTIC wrote:Steve what recoil pads are on those guns? I have some older gums with hard butt plates but arthtitis demands I use something a bit softer now.

Those are one each a 454 and a 480 and they came from rossi with those pads. I don't much care for the for a couple reasons.for rubber they are fairly hard and rossi mounts them at the wrong angle. That's about the right angle if these were shotguns used on arial target. But shooting level like most rifles are used the sharp positive toe really digs in.
This is more to my liking. Even if you use a thicker pad the angle is more forgiving.
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This is not a very good picture but it does show the comparison better. the upper is a kickEz i think.
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COSteve, those look great--just what the doc ordered for my otherwise ok looking 2004-2005 EMFs! As Nate says, the earlier Rossis aren't bad and my early-mid Interarms bear that out.
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Nate Kiowa Jones of (Steve's Guns, is the expert here, but several guys have refinished their Rossis, and in each case I remember the wood came out lighter once the Rossi finish has been removed. Some with quite good figure. They tend to finish them dark to cover variations in the wood, and to have a consistent look to the finished product. Sometimes the importer can specify a better grade wood, but they're still rather dark.

Well, I see you got plenty of answers while I goofed off after I started this response! :mrgreen:
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