Williams FP vs 5D? What's the difference?

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Williams FP vs 5D? What's the difference?

#1 Post by awp101 » Wed Feb 01, 2012 10:30 pm

I'm researching receiver sights for the Norwegian Krag project I picked up. I see both of these sights listed for the Norwegian Krag but so far I haven't been able to find any definitive information as to what makes one different or better than the other.

Any of you Williams gurus have any thoughts or ideas?

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Re: Williams FP vs 5D? What's the difference?

#2 Post by BlaineG » Wed Feb 01, 2012 10:35 pm

The 5D doesn't have click adjustments. IMO, it is a PITA to adjust, but once it is, it's ok. If you like adjustability while you shoot, I'd seriously recommend the FP.
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#3 Post by awp101 » Wed Feb 01, 2012 11:15 pm

Ah, thanks! :mrgreen:
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Re: Williams FP vs 5D? What's the difference?

#4 Post by Canuck Bob » Wed Feb 01, 2012 11:43 pm

The FP comes with two adjustment screws and worth the extra coin in my opinion. If your a hunter get the simple recessed screw head adjusters rather than the target knobs. The Foolproof and 5D line are very sleek compared to other sights. I have a FP mounted on a 444 for over three decades with flawless performance. I also have a 5D styled WGRS on my 10-22 and as Blain notes it is a royal pain to dial in. It is secure once locked down.

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Re: Williams FP vs 5D? What's the difference?

#5 Post by AJMD429 » Wed Feb 01, 2012 11:56 pm

Be sure to consider the 'Target Knob' option if you don't mind a bit of extra bulk (check the Williams Gunsite or MidwayUSA website for photos of the FP, 5D and Target-knobbed FP models).

I just ordered separate Target Knobs for ELEVATION from Brownell's, for a couple of mine. I am likely to just use 'Indiana Windage' (like 'Kentucky Windage' only I miss more), but sometimes if the range is long for the cartridge, it's nice to just 'dial in' the elevation setting. The FP will do that, repeatably, with or without the Target knobs, but it's more fun with them. :D
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Re: Williams FP vs 5D? What's the difference?

#6 Post by 30-30 » Thu Feb 02, 2012 1:41 am

BlaineG wrote:The 5D doesn't have click adjustments. IMO, it is a PITA to adjust, but once it is, it's ok. If you like adjustability while you shoot, I'd seriously recommend the FP.
+1 ... totally agree with "BlaineG"; I've used both and only use the FP...especially if you're going to try different bullet weights--the 5D is 1/2 the price of the FP, but the FP is worth the xtra coin... :)

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#7 Post by buckeyeshooter » Thu Feb 02, 2012 3:03 am

got several of both. as said the foolproof is easier to set up, but after that really no difference in the field.

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#8 Post by BlaineG » Thu Feb 02, 2012 11:55 am

buckeyeshooter wrote:got several of both. as said the foolproof is easier to set up, but after that really no difference in the field.
I set the one on my 336, with the insert out as a ghost ring, 6 years ago, or so, and since I aways use GreenBox 170s, it has not budged one iota. :wink: I can usually sight in with five or six shots, but this one took a box or more :roll:
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Re: Williams FP vs 5D? What's the difference?

#9 Post by bdhold » Thu Feb 02, 2012 12:07 pm

I recently put an FP-GR with target knobs on my daughter's Henry - I recognize this doesn't help awp 101's application, but I found a very good price on the target-knob dovetail-groove sight at Airguns of Arizona. but for anyone with a .22 it's about $10 cheaper than anywhere else.

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#10 Post by Pete44ru » Thu Feb 02, 2012 3:22 pm

I like the 5D, since I'm more of a single-load-per-rifle kinda guy, and like to set-'n-forget.

I particularly dislike Target Knobs because, 1) they really add to the size/bulk, and 2) even with lock screws, the coon-fingered among us can STILL manage to fiddle them.

For both the 5D & the non-TK FP, though, a pocket screwdriver will be needed afield, if adjustment is called for.

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Re: Williams FP vs 5D? What's the difference?

#11 Post by Old Shatterhand » Thu Feb 02, 2012 3:28 pm

Pete44ru wrote:---For both the 5D & the non-TK FP, though, a pocket screwdriver will be needed afield, if adjustment is called for.

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Re: Williams FP vs 5D? What's the difference?

#12 Post by Pisgah » Thu Feb 02, 2012 3:29 pm

As noted, the FP is a bit more hassle-free if you are trying out multiple loads. If you are the "Pick your load, zero, and hit the woods" sort of guy, like me, the 5D is fine.

Incidentally, the 5D name comes from the original price -- $5. Inflation is everywhere, huh?

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