OT - Texas Pride

Charles · Post by **Charles** » Wed Mar 05, 2008 8:25 pm

Have you ever looked at a map of the world? Look at Texas with me just for a second. That picture, with the Panhandle and the Gulf Coast, and the Red River and the Rio Grande is as much a part of you as anything ever will be. As soon as anyone anywhere in the world looks at it they know what it is. It's Texas. Pick any kid off the street in Japan and draw him a picture of Texas in the dirt and he'll know what it is. What happens if I show you a picture of any other state? You might get it maybe after a second or two, but who else would? And even if you do, does it ever stir any feelings in you?

In every man, woman and child on this planet, there is a person who wishes just once he could be a real live Texan and get up on a horse or ride off in a pickup. There is a little bit of Texas in everyone.

Did you ever hear anyone in a bar go, 'Wow...so you're from Iowa ? Cool, tell me about it?' Do you know why? Because no one gives a stuff about Iowa.'

Texas is the Alamo. Texas is 183 men standing in a church, facing Thousands of Mexican nationals, fighting for freedom, who had the chance to walk out and save themselves, but stayed instead to fight and die for the cause of freedom.

We send our kids to schools named William B. Travis and James Bowie and Crockett, and do you know why? Because those men saw a line in the sand and they decided to cross it and be heroes.

John Wayne paid to do the movie himself. That is the Spirit of Texas.

Texas is Sam Houston capturing Santa Anna at San Jacinto.

Texas is huge forests of Piney Woods like the Davy Crockett National Forest.

Texas is breathtaking mountains in the Big Bend.

Texas is the unparalleled beauty of bluebonnet fields in the Texas Hill Country.

Texas is the beautiful, warm beaches of the Gulf Coast of South Texas.

Texas is the shiny skyscrapers in Houston and Dallas.

Texas is world record bass from places like Lake Fork.

Texas is Mexican food like nowhere else, not even Mexico..

Texas is the Fort Worth Stockyards, Bass Hall, the Ballpark in Arlington and the Astrodome. (guess now the Reliant Stadium too)

Texas is larger-than-life legends like Michael DeBakey, Denton Cooley, Willie Nelson, Walter Cronkite, Buddy Holly, Gene Autry, Audie Murphy, Tommy Lee Jones, Waylon Jennings, Janis Joplin, Kris Kristofferson, Tom Landry, Darrell Royal, ZZ Top, Eric Dickerson, Earl Campbell, Nolan Ryan, Sam Rayburn, Howard Hughes, George H. W.Bush, Lyndon B. Johnson, and George W. Bush. And let's not forget GEORGE STRAIT

PANTERA!!!!!!!!!!!!

Texas is great companies like Dell Computer, Texas Instruments and Compaq, Bell Helicopter And LOCKHEED MARTIN AEROSPACE, Home of the F-16 Jet Fighter and the JSF Fighter.

Texas is NASA.

Texas is huge herds of cattle and miles of crops.

Texas is home to the most amazing sunsets of gold over an empty field.

Texans have pride like no others.

Texas is hundreds of deer running around neighborhoods and fields.

Texas is skies blackened with doves and fields full of deer.

Texas is a place where towns and cities shut down to watch the local high school football game on Friday nights and for the Cowboys on Monday Night Football, and for the Night In Old San Antonio River Parade in San Antonio.

To drive across Texas is to drive 1/4 the way across the United States.

Texas is ocean beaches, deserts, lakes and rivers, mountains and prairies, and modern cities.

If it isn't in Texas, you probably don't need it.

Everything's bigger in Texas!

No one does anything bigger or better than it's done in Texas.

By federal law, Texas is the only state in the U.S. That can fly its flag at the same height as the U.S. Flag. Think about that for a second. You fly the

Stars and Stripes at 20 feet in Maryland, California, or Maine , and your state flag, whatever it is, goes at 17 feet. You fly the Stars and Stripes in front of Klein Oak High or anyplace else at 20 feet, the Lone Star flies at the same height - 20 feet. Do you know why? Because it is the only state that was a Republic before it became a state.

Also, being a Texan is as high as being an American down here. Our capitol is the only one in the country that is taller than the capitol building in Washington, D.C. and we can divide our state into five states at any time if we wanted to! We included these things as part of the deal when we came on. That's the best part, right there.

Texas even has its own power grid!! ... Did I mention Live music capitol of the world?

If you are a REAL TEXAN, you won't even need to be told to pass this on.

Nate Kiowa Jones · Post by **Nate Kiowa Jones** » Wed Mar 05, 2008 8:48 pm

5th gen Texan here.

neil mitchell · Post by **neil mitchell** » Wed Mar 05, 2008 8:55 pm

Amen to that!

Neil

gon2shoot · Post by **gon2shoot** » Wed Mar 05, 2008 8:55 pm

Charles,
Good to see you are proud of your home state, but Texans are EASTERNERS where I come from

I really enjoyed Ft. Stockton when I lived there, but I've been working in the DFW area for about a year and a half and I don't see many "texans" here.

Scoutmaster · Post by **Scoutmaster** » Wed Mar 05, 2008 9:03 pm

I'm glad to see the pride. I was born in Paterson, N.J. and couldn't wait to get away. First to New York State(nothing like the city thank God) and now to Pennsylvania. I'm now in a rural area that suits me much better, but I still dream of continuing the move much further west when I retire. Unfortunately the largely rural areas of Pennsylvania have the politics of Philadelphia and Pittsburg ruling the entire state. I hope to someday be able to feel the sort of pride you already have.
Don

mescalero1 · Post by **mescalero1** » Wed Mar 05, 2008 9:10 pm

In New Mexico, we know that Texans like to ski also; that is why we share our mountains with them.
They are pretty nice people to

C. Cash · Post by **C. Cash** » Wed Mar 05, 2008 9:22 pm

Thanks Charles. Since reading your post the first time I have been singing Chris Ledoux's "Blue Bonnet Blues" and can't get it out of my head.

I have to admit it, I'm a Texan wannabe and always have been

My Dad and his side of the family were from Central and West Texas and I loved listening to his and my Grandfather's stories of the place when they were growing up. Always wanted to go there and live but life has taken me in other directions. Maybe someday.

Griff · Post by **Griff** » Wed Mar 05, 2008 9:33 pm

Having been born as a US citizen overseas, I can't lay claim to any State as "bein' from", but since the 1st entry in my 1st US Passport sez Dallas, TX, I claim to be a "native". That's my story, and I'm stickin' to it!

rangerider7 · Post by **rangerider7** » Wed Mar 05, 2008 10:08 pm

I was born in Fort Worth, Texas in 1945 and have never been anywhere else in the USA that I wanted to move to. The only area that I haven't been to is the New England area.

Griff · Post by **Griff** » Wed Mar 05, 2008 10:24 pm

rangerider7 wrote:I was born in Fort Worth, Texas in 1945 and have never been anywhere else in the USA that I wanted to move to. The only area that I haven't been to is the New England area.

Let's see, I've been to all 50 states, all but two Canadian provinces, and several foreign countries... each has something uniquely its own. But... none have more than Texas!

20cows · Post by **20cows** » Wed Mar 05, 2008 10:29 pm

I'm still here!

RonEgg · Post by **RonEgg** » Wed Mar 05, 2008 10:45 pm

My family came from Wisconsin. We came to Texas the first time in 1952 when my father was stationed at Fort Bliss. There were seven of us kids, my brother was the oldest then me and five sisters eventually. When my brother went into the Marine Corps in 1961 he was from Wisconsin. When he came home from Boot Camp, he was from Texas. Couldn't figure that out until in 1965 I went into the Marine Corps and the same thing happened to me. Twenty years in the Corps and finally made it back for good in 1991.

It is crazy but everything in your post I feel in my bones. I hate to leave and can't wait to get back. The west Big Bend and further out is my favorite especially El Paso where I grew up.

Ron

mescalero1 · Post by **mescalero1** » Wed Mar 05, 2008 10:57 pm

Yeah,
went to school in El Paso

HORACE · Post by **HORACE** » Wed Mar 05, 2008 10:58 pm

OK Charles! You certainly do a good 'sell' on your home state. Just about convinced me where my next overseas holiday should be

By the way, did you ever consider applying for a position with the Texas Tourism Commission?

piller · Post by **piller** » Wed Mar 05, 2008 11:00 pm

Charles:

I wasn't born in Texas, but I got here as soon as I could. I noticed you mentioned Michael DeBakey, the number 1 heart surgeon in the World, or maybe number 2 if you listen to the folks from Baylor Medical Center of Dallas about Dr. Jarvik. Texas has it all, and the medical people are top notch, and as a Pharmacist, I can say that with some ability to prove it. I have been in most of the other 49 and while they are mostly nice to visit, I chose to live in Texas. Heck, we even got Joe, 86er, to move here. No place is perfect, but Texas at least tries to come really close.

piller · Post by **piller** » Wed Mar 05, 2008 11:04 pm

Oh, yeah, Charles---you forgot Jim Reeves. The first singer to have a number 1 on the country chart and a number 2 on the pop chart with the same song in the same week. Later some King of Rock did it the other way 'round.

Abilene · Post by **Abilene** » Wed Mar 05, 2008 11:08 pm

In the 1860's my mothers folks were from Rusk county. One Grandad was in Co. C 3rd Texas cavalry, And another Grandad was in the 30th Texas cavalry, and later helped survey the early city of Dallas. From there they migrated to the Illinois bend area of the Red River. From there they were some of the first to rent pasture and run cattle on Choctaw land in Ok. Pretty much stayed around there ever since. Guess maybe I'm part Texican. When I went of to college(OSU) they told me that I was the closest thing to a Texan they had. Abilene

FWiedner · Post by **FWiedner** » Wed Mar 05, 2008 11:30 pm

Half of my family lived in Texas before the Republic. The other half immigrated to Texas just after the Civil War.

I was born in San Antonio and have lived in several fine places about our great nation and around the world, but when the time came to settle down and raise a family of my own, there was no other place that even crossed my mind. I returned to my roots.

I came home to Texas.

The kids are all grown now, and my wife is a Pennsylvania girl, so she sometimes talks about moving.

I really don't think she gets it.

mescalero1 · Post by **mescalero1** » Wed Mar 05, 2008 11:38 pm

Naw, she don't get it.
It gets in your blood, you can "feel ' it.
We just like it there

JP_TX · Post by **JP_TX** » Wed Mar 05, 2008 11:45 pm

Charles, you didn't mention that Texas has some of the kindest, gentle, most generous, bravest and most honorable, God loving folks found anywhere that I know of. God bless Texas and Texans every one.

txpete · Post by **txpete** » Thu Mar 06, 2008 12:09 am

Come and Take It Flag
Of the multiple banners that flew over DeWitt Colony territory and those under which DeWitt colonists served and died, this famous flag is one which originated solely within and is unique to the DeWitt Colony and a symbol of contribution of the region to the Texas Independence movement. The banner can be said to be the counterpart in concept and message of resistance as the early "Don't Tread on Me" flags of the American Revolution.

shooter · Post by **shooter** » Thu Mar 06, 2008 12:28 am

This may be my favorite post ever on this board. I love Texas, and can't wait to get back. Almost got my girlfriend convinced to move. After I put that ring on her finger I think it's a done deal.

mescalero1 · Post by **mescalero1** » Thu Mar 06, 2008 1:13 am

Oh man, I hate to be the fly in the ointment,
but once you put that ring on her finger; your input into the decision making process is going to be GREATLY diminished.Perhaps you should get to Texas first!

Bis · Post by **Bis** » Thu Mar 06, 2008 1:16 am

Texan my choice, not by birth.

JohnnyReb · Post by **JohnnyReb** » Thu Mar 06, 2008 1:16 am

Ain't never lived in Texas but got blood in the soil of the Republic.
Remember old Col. Fannin who died at Goliad? I was born and raised in Fannin County Georgia (on the Tenn/NC line) and it was some of our native kinfolk who rode with him.

Most of them were killed but some got away and stayed. The little town of Kiker, Texas and the Kiker Elementary School and Douglas Kiker of NBC News (from Texas of course) are some of my family.

Maybe an honorary Texan?

(That thing about the flag...pretty cool...but you know WE tried that in the South about 147 years ago and the yankees got kindly ruffled up about it)

gamekeeper · Post by **gamekeeper** » Thu Mar 06, 2008 3:16 am

You Guy's, If you ain't making me turn green with envy with all your fancy shootin' irons you start turning me green with envy on places I should be a livin' in!

RKrodle · Post by **RKrodle** » Thu Mar 06, 2008 7:56 am

JohnnyReb, any good Georgia boy is always welcome in Texas!!!

game keeper, that goes for you also. Ya'll just load up and come on.

Post by **Ysabel Kid** » Thu Mar 06, 2008 8:53 am

So Charles, I take it you plan on staying? Seriously, tell us what you really think!

86er · Post by **86er** » Thu Mar 06, 2008 9:06 am

I'm not from Texas but I got here as fast as I could!

Sixgun · Post by **Sixgun** » Thu Mar 06, 2008 9:23 am

Sure, Texas is a cool state, but in my opinion, they all are. Each one has it's own contribution to this great nation.

I live in Pennsylvania, about 3 miles from the Brandywine Battlefield. On my wife's uncle's farm, they found a huge cannon about 8 feet long that was buried in the dirt, obviously left by Washington's retreating troops. It was found in 1958 and is mounted on a cement holder right where it was found. Three houses down from me is the oldest post office in the United States that is still in the same building. The building next to that is the "Yellow House", a hospital for Washington's troops. My deceased father-in-law's friend, who owned the Walter Craig farm tried to sell it, but was rejected because parts of his land is a cemetery for British troops.

Valley Forge is about 16 miles North of here. I believe we all know the history of that. About 30 miles north of here is where Washington crossed the Delaware to put a hurtin' on the Hessians in New Jersey.

Now lets talk Philadelphia--While it may be a toilet today, the beginnings were well, we all know that citie's history, with our great constitution and all. Gettysburg, Pa. was the turning point of the Civil War that has kept this great nation alive and prosperous.

There's more "freedom fighting" history around here than you can shake a stick at, so the way I see it, if it was not for Pennsylvanians, there would be no Texas

RKrodle · Post by **RKrodle** » Thu Mar 06, 2008 10:12 am

86er wrote:I'm not from Texas but I got here as fast as I could!

You have done been adopted. There's no getting out for you.

Rebel1972 · Post by **Rebel1972** » Thu Mar 06, 2008 11:10 am

All I can say is that if it weren't for Tennessee ,Texas would be North Mexico . :

All kidding aside ,thats why we're called the volunteer state.

Charles · Post by **Charles** » Thu Mar 06, 2008 11:15 am

"Gettysburg, Pa. was the turning point of the Civil War that has kept this great nation alive and prosperous. "......Sixgun

There are those folks who argue that Gettysburg was the beginning of the end of the Country as the Founding Fathers intended and inculcuated in the Constitution.

They would argue, it was the victory of a strong Federal Goverments over the rights of the States and the people thereof, to determine the course of their lives. They would argue the loss of individual liberty and the oppression by the Federal Goverments, which has only grown throughout the generations started there.

I am not saying they are right, nor am I saying they are wrong. I am just saying there is more than one way to look at the issue.

This ought to kick the can down the road a ways!!!

Sixgun · Post by **Sixgun** » Thu Mar 06, 2008 11:26 am

Charles wrote:
There are those folks who argue that Gettysburg was the beginning of the end of the Country as the Founding Fathers intended and inculcuated in the Constitution.

Charles, maybe. There are also those who say the 13th amendment is the cause.--------- Geeze, talk about kicking the can!-------Sixgun

Thunder50 · Post by **Thunder50** » Thu Mar 06, 2008 12:05 pm

Not a Texan, but had a Grandfather and Great-grandmother from Texas. Would have moved there as really liked the hill-country, but too humid, so came to Colorado instead.

Charles · Post by **Charles** » Thu Mar 06, 2008 12:10 pm

Geeze, talk about kicking the can!-------Sixgun

No, siree. not none of me!!! I wouldn't kick at that can with somebody's elses foot!!

Griff · Post by **Griff** » Thu Mar 06, 2008 12:46 pm

This may be heresy for some, if not all; but... there isn't a state in this great Nation that doesn't have it greatness, if not in its climate, topography, flora or fauna, then certainly in its people. We may all have some slight differences of opinion or even overall outlook, but I do believe that we all take slights against the whole as a slight against us individually. Regional/State/Community loyalties are high, as they should be. I'm proud to be an "American", Texan, and Kiwi (after all we were FIRST up Mt. Everest; well, first outside the native Sherpas)!

The War of Northern Aggression should not have been. Succession should not have been. The clarity of hindsight allows us, if we care to look, how prideful men led us into the morass that is the 1850-60s. I am not smart enough, nor studied enough to point out clear examples, but, overall, that is the impression I gained during my elementary and secondary study of that portion of history. I find it most fascinating and somewhat dismaying the changes in the history of that era between the 1950s when I first studied American History, and the 1980s version my son studied. How that history changed is totally beyond me. Must be some kind of time-warp available to historians that wasn't available when only the written word, (like the Congressional Record and equivalent State records) were available. For how else can you assert that the words recorded therein are not the actual record of the speeches given in support of the various stances taken by our then elected representatives. Must be akin to Al Gore's "invention" of the internet, Hillary's naming, Obama's legacy of inspiration, and to be fair, Bush's business "successes". I'd hate to see what changes in that history has been wrought in the last 20 years.

As each of us must live with the consequences of the personal choices we make in our lives, so do we live with the public choices our elected officials make. Sometimes good, sometimes bad.

I have started reading of David McCulough's "John Adams". I thoroughly enjoyed his "1776", and hope this is done as well.

I have begun to include two consistent thoughts in all correspondence I make to my elected representatives: 1) "Please be advised that you are, and should make emminently clear to your colleagues, not under ANY obligation to make new law, and your efforts should be focused on making your constituent's lives less onerous and LESS subject to government interference"; and 2) "Do you possess the courage and conviction to have signed the "Declaration of Independence" with the knowledge of the hardships and deprivation those men suffered as a consequence." The last is noted as a strictly rhetorical question, but I ask that such be the guiding principle they use when they consider their vote and actions within their sphere of influence.

As a final few words, I can honestly say, that I don't know if I do. For the conservative in me yells about my family and commitments, and the liberal in me cowers in fear of being hung as a traitor. However, I do foresee a time that our nation will again have such tests of conviction and courage placed in front of us. For I see that the time of an overly oppressive Government, so clearly foreseen by our founding fathers is near, if not already upon us. I wonder if those signers were so conflicted?

There, that kicked the can a little farther!

Sixgun · Post by **Sixgun** » Thu Mar 06, 2008 12:57 pm

Well written Griff!

I nominate you to run as president.!

-------Sixgun

Charles · Post by **Charles** » Thu Mar 06, 2008 2:21 pm

Griff.... You bet the folks in the days of the American Revolution were conflicted. In fact, the "founding fathers' were probably a minority if the truth be known. There were many, many loyalists in the Colonies. The peoples of the America were by no means unified in their acts.

Tis no great sin to be conflicted and even fearful. The failing is not to act on your convictions in spite of those fears and conflict.

Griff · Post by **Griff** » Thu Mar 06, 2008 2:35 pm

Sixgun wrote:Well written Griff! I nominate you to run as president.! -------Sixgun

N O -- T H A N K -- YOU, Sir! I was only hopin' to kick the can a little!

Griff · Post by **Griff** » Thu Mar 06, 2008 2:41 pm

Charles wrote:Griff.... You bet the folks in the days of the American Revolution were conflicted. In fact, the "founding fathers' were probably a minority if the truth be known. There were many, many loyalists in the Colonies. The peoples of the America were by no means unified in their acts.
Tis no great sin to be conflicted and even fearful. The failing is not to act on your convictions in spite of those fears and conflict.

As I believe also. And yes, I agree the "revolutionists" were in the minority, at least those willing to act and put themselves "out front" as it were.

TNBigBore · Post by **TNBigBore** » Thu Mar 06, 2008 3:14 pm

As Rebel1972 so eloquently put it "There would be no Texas without Tennessee." Any list of great Texans includes a great many that were born and raised in Tennessee (see Sam Houston and Davy Crockett). Texas is a beautiful state and has a lot to offer, but having been to almost every state in the U.S., I would rather live in Tennessee than anywhere I have seen. I don't mean to ruffle any feathers.

Dirty Dan · Post by **Dirty Dan** » Thu Mar 06, 2008 3:58 pm

Griff is right- all states have great things about them and I have lived in some beautiful places out side the Lonestar State (Idaho, Oregon, NM). Alabama, Georgia, Tennesse and others contributed much to Texas independence but Charles is correct- Texas is in a class by itself. There is no state more famous, more recognizable, more loaded with history.

My Great-grandmother was alive when I was a tike. She used to tell me stories about when she was a young girl in Stephens Co. and the Comanches were still riding up to the house, mostly to steal livestock, and they would hide in a false fireplace.

GEOFF · Post by **GEOFF** » Thu Mar 06, 2008 3:59 pm

I was PROUDLY born and raised in Washington state but I love to see that TEXAS pride and my hat is off to you Texans!!

My favorite Texans:

1) GEORGE W. BUSH: Unfortunately got the chance to meet Bill Clinton twice, would give my eye teeth to meet George W. Bush!

2) Old Texas Ranger CHARLIE GOODNIGHT.

3) AUDIE MURPHY: Part of my dad's old 3rd Infantry Division. Proudly carried on the tradition of Texas fighting men.

4) WAYLON JENNINGS: Grew up on his music nuff said!!!

5) HOME OF PETERBILT TRUCKS!!!!

NOTHING WRONG WITH BEING PROUD OF WHERE YOU ARE FROM. I GROW APPLES UP HERE IN WA. ST. AND AM PROUD THAT WE GROW MORE APPLES THAN THE REST OF THE NATION ALL PUT TOGETHER!!

Geoff

P.S. SIXGUN, appreciate about what you said about PA. My wife was born in Philly. Wouldn't trade her either!!!!

TNBigBore · Post by **TNBigBore** » Thu Mar 06, 2008 4:52 pm

Dirty Dan, I respect Texan's pride in their state. But to say that Texas is more loaded with history is simply taking an egocentric view of history. That is what gets on some other Southerners nerves about Texans. Again, I am not bad mouthing Texas, but it certainly does not have any richer history than Tennessee.

There were more Civil War battles fought in Tennessee than any other state except Virginia. Only Virginia has had more US president's hail from their state.

My great grandmother used to tell me stories about her grandmother hiding hams and bacon behind the boards in the walls when the Yankee (and Confederate) troops would raid the countryside for food.

As a kid I used to walk the fields every spring after my grandfather plowed and picked up Minnie balls left from the battle fought there a hundred years earlier.

The creek behind the house where I grew up was a great place to find arrowheads and the occasioanal spear or hachet heads.

My great grandfather was a local sheriff in Mountainous East Tennessee during prohibition. He had countless stories about the battles between hillbilly moon shiners and law enforcement during those rough and rowdy days.

I used to attend church within walking distance of the graves of Davy Crockett's grandparents who were killed by an Indian raiding party.

My parents cabin sits about two miles from the largest staging point for the Trail of Tears.

I could go on. You see there are other states with histories just a rich as Texas.

Texas has beautiful scenery, but no more so than Montana, Wyoming, Colorado, Idaho, Washington, Oregon, Tennessee, North Carolina, Maine etc.

Texas is big, but so are Montana and California and Alaska is bigger.

Football is big in Texas, but no more so than Alabama, Tennessee, Florida etc.

There are real cowboys from all over the West, not just Texas.

Texans are proud of their heritage, but so are Tennesseans etc. Please remember this when you Texans go on and on about how great Texas is compared to other states.

Charles · Post by **Charles** » Thu Mar 06, 2008 6:07 pm

TNBigBore... Don't be to hard of us Texans and our braging. If we just kept silent, it would not give you Tennessee boys a chance to thump your drum. Tennessee and other states, are rich in history and culture, but it seem like it takes us Texas boys to drag it out of you.

You shouldn't have to wait for a rebuttal opportunity to brag on Tennessee! Maybe that is the difference between Texans and others, we don't wait for a chance to brag on Texas, we just do it as a matter of course even if it "hairlips the governor".

Griff · Post by **Griff** » Thu Mar 06, 2008 6:09 pm

Charles wrote:TNBigBore... Don't be to hard of us Texans and our braging. If we just kept silent, it would not give you Tennessee boys a chance to thump your drum. Tennessee and other states, are rich in history and culture, but it seem like it takes us Texas boys to drag it out of you.

You shouldn't have to wait for a rebuttal opportunity to brag on Tennessee! Maybe that is the difference between Texans and others, we don't wait for a chance to brag on Texas, we just do it as a matter of course even if it "hairlips the governor".

TNBigBore · Post by **TNBigBore** » Thu Mar 06, 2008 6:17 pm

Well said Charles. I guess we Tennesseeans should be a little more proactive. I meant no offence to any Texans. I guess this dates back to my childhood when we had new neighbors move in from Corpus Christi. I came to blows more than once with the twin boys my age over Texas vs Tennessee issues.

oldCop · Post by **oldCop** » Thu Mar 06, 2008 6:24 pm

On this, the 172nd anniversary of the culmination of the "Thirteen Days of Glory", God bless Texas, and God bless the USA....all of her States.

Native Texan in DFW

blackhawk44 · Post by **blackhawk44** » Thu Mar 06, 2008 6:35 pm

Please take just a moment today to think of 182 freedom fighters, of various origins, races and religous beliefs, who came together to leave a large footnote in history at about 6:00AM THIS morning, 172 years ago. Take a moment to Remember the Alamo!