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USFA single actions - what happened?

#1 Post by Old Savage » Sat Jan 12, 2013 5:21 pm

Looks like they have stopped producing - anyone know what has occurred?
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Re: USFA single actions - what happened?

#2 Post by Barcelona Rick » Sat Jan 12, 2013 7:23 pm

Doc I read a post here (I believe) that talked about USFA reducing their product offering to the high end and special editions. I have also read that their primary owner may have changed directions in manufacturing....wish I had purchased a USFA before they got so expensive....maybe another member will have more info sir....

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#3 Post by Old Savage » Sat Jan 12, 2013 8:19 pm

They make these weird .22 Zip guns but were selling all they could make of the SAs - one year wait last spring, same as Colt. Must make sense somehow - web site does not seem to show any SAs for sale.
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#4 Post by SteveR » Sat Jan 12, 2013 8:38 pm

Old Savage wrote:Looks like they have stopped producing - anyone know what has occurred?
If you scroll down to the bottom of the page it says that USFA single actions are only sold through the SASS.

http://www.sassnet.com/usfa.html


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#5 Post by olyinaz » Sat Jan 12, 2013 8:47 pm

It makes no sense to me at all. Everything they made sold out fast, so stop making them? I just don't get it.

I wish I'd had the means to acquire some of their autos and oddities, but now I suppose they'll become even less obtainable.

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#6 Post by Old Savage » Sat Jan 12, 2013 10:53 pm

Steve - nothing there leads to availability unless you must do it through SASS. Only thing you can get are the Zips.
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#7 Post by gak » Sat Jan 12, 2013 11:19 pm

Just a few weeks ago the redirect off the old USFA site to http://www.usfasingleactions.com brought up at least some sub links. Poorly designed site to begin with, truly smacked of a half-baked, short term or interim site. Now I can't get any useful links to work--not off my "smart phone" at least which usually does ok at this stuff. But when I could access at least some aspects of the new site (then) it looked like only .45 was available (though another page still referenced numerous other calibers--apparently an old page they hadn't updated?). Odd - and a shame...stellar firearms.

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#8 Post by Old Savage » Sun Jan 13, 2013 12:26 am

The Long Hunter link says they are temporarily unable to get USFA guns.
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#9 Post by JimT » Sun Jan 13, 2013 12:57 am

Rumor: This is third-hand .. I heard that the owner gave it up .. tired of putting time and money into it .. sold their CNC machinery and were hand-fitting left over parts .. most of the gunsmiths had left and were working for other companies.

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#10 Post by pshort » Sun Jan 13, 2013 1:33 am

Howdy,
Too darn bad they went away.. I have a new USFA 7 1/2 SAA that I bought 3 or 4 yrs ago and it's really well made.....
Come to think of it, it's an EBR ! (Evil Black Revolver)

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#11 Post by olyinaz » Sun Jan 13, 2013 1:38 am

gak wrote: a shame...stellar firearms.
Understatement. :(

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#12 Post by Old Savage » Sun Jan 13, 2013 1:57 am

Oly, send that rig over and when I get better I'll give it a test run. Maybe teach some cutie some sixgun work. :D :D :D
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#13 Post by olyinaz » Sun Jan 13, 2013 1:58 am

Old Savage wrote:Oly, send that rig over and when I get better I'll give it a test run. Maybe teach some cutie some sixgun work. :D :D :D
I wish I had that rig! I think it's the one they presented to Charlton Heston.

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#14 Post by Old Savage » Sun Jan 13, 2013 2:00 am

Well JimT - you are likely well enough connected that I will take that as the way it is. My quest for a top quality regular SA will have to go with it.
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#15 Post by JimT » Sun Jan 13, 2013 2:13 am

It's only a rumor that I picked up .. I have no proof that it's true.

Here's my USFA compared to my old Colt SAA ...

http://www.leverguns.com/usfa/colt_usfa.htm

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#16 Post by olyinaz » Sun Jan 13, 2013 2:39 am

Old Savage wrote: My quest for a top quality regular SA will have to go with it.
Thankfully I'm told that Colt has upped their game and the new (as within the last year or so) Colts are very nice. The ones I've seen certainly look that way, so perhaps a genuine Colt is in your future?

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#17 Post by Old Savage » Sun Jan 13, 2013 2:53 am

Had three nice ones - New Frontiers - 44 and 45 and an ivory handled SAA 44 all 7 1/2" that got traded off with the hunting rifle pursuit. All great guns they were. 4 3/4" 45 Colt is probably what I am after. Plain Jane would be great. Might just get a nice clone.
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#18 Post by Hobie » Sun Jan 13, 2013 11:12 am

Yep, USFA going a whole new direction... <sigh> Glad I've got mine.
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#19 Post by olyinaz » Sun Jan 13, 2013 11:26 am

Old Savage wrote:4 3/4" 45 Colt is probably what I am after. Plain Jane would be great. Might just get a nice clone.
Do you have a shop where you can look at the Uberti and Pietta clone side by side? I'd be interested in your take on the two.

At any rate, it's sad that USFA will no longer be an option. I'm saddened that STI out of Texas gave up on the SAA scene so quickly also, it looked as if they were going to make a product that would rival USFAs.

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#20 Post by Hobie » Sun Jan 13, 2013 11:40 am

ZIPpity do dah, zippity yea,
Time to say goodbye to USFA...
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#21 Post by SteveR » Sun Jan 13, 2013 12:07 pm

Old Savage wrote:Steve - nothing there leads to availability unless you must do it through SASS. Only thing you can get are the Zips.
I see, too bad looks like their guns were nicer than the Colt's per Jim's pictures. Isn't it the way it is, the good stuff always seems to end.

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#22 Post by Old Savage » Sun Jan 13, 2013 1:33 pm

Oly, I have looked at both. The Piettas are a little better I think. They are tighter than the Colts I have seen in lock up. Heritage Rough Rider Big Bore is Pietta with some assembly here - very smooth and tight - 6 shots - pin in the frame. 1860 I have is tight and smooth. I may get a Uberti or see what Lipsey's has in Ruger 45/45ACP if in stainless.

I will no doubt keep my eye out for what is available. I have let 10 Colt's go through my hands - expect there might be more.
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#23 Post by olyinaz » Mon Jan 14, 2013 12:28 am

Old Savage wrote:Oly, I have looked at both. The Piettas are a little better I think. They are tighter than the Colts I have seen in lock up. Heritage Rough Rider Big Bore is Pietta with some assembly here - very smooth and tight - 6 shots - pin in the frame. 1860 I have is tight and smooth. I may get a Uberti or see what Lipsey's has in Ruger 45/45ACP if in stainless.

I will no doubt keep my eye out for what is available. I have let 10 Colt's go through my hands - expect there might be more.
Yes, the Rough Riders in center fire are nice looking I think and a good deal to boot. I'm partial to the EMF Alchimista II also:

http://www.emf-company.com/store/pc/Alchimista-c67.htm

10 Colts! :shock: And not one was a lifetime keeper??

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#24 Post by Old Savage » Mon Jan 14, 2013 12:42 am

Well now Oly - I never said that :)

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#25 Post by Old Savage » Mon Jan 14, 2013 12:50 am

This Heritage came in to the local gun shop - some fella had to get rid of it - very tight, shoots well, price was right - 45.

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#26 Post by olyinaz » Mon Jan 14, 2013 12:54 am

Oh my...

That .44 is LOVELY. :mrgreen:

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#27 Post by Old Savage » Mon Jan 14, 2013 1:04 am

You oughta come up some time - only a bit more than an hour north of LAX.

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#28 Post by Old Savage » Mon Jan 14, 2013 1:09 am

Now to me .... not that I would ever start a controversy .... the 44 Spl. is the perfect single action cartridge.
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#29 Post by Old Savage » Mon Jan 14, 2013 1:14 am

Nice little Colt here

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#30 Post by olyinaz » Mon Jan 14, 2013 2:11 am

Veeery nice. And I would like to get up to see you and do some shooting! Perhaps another Great Western Lever Guns Gathering is needed? If I'm given over a month to prepare for it I can bid to have it off and stand a good chance of making it. Short notice (anything less than a month) is tough for me as getting time off from work once the schedule is locked in is like pulling hen's teeth.

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#31 Post by El Chivo » Mon Jan 14, 2013 2:18 am

olyinaz wrote:
Old Savage wrote:Oly, send that rig over and when I get better I'll give it a test run. Maybe teach some cutie some sixgun work. :D :D :D
I wish I had that rig! I think it's the one they presented to Charlton Heston.

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#32 Post by olyinaz » Mon Jan 14, 2013 10:46 am

El Chivo wrote:
olyinaz wrote:
Old Savage wrote:Oly, send that rig over and when I get better I'll give it a test run. Maybe teach some cutie some sixgun work. :D :D :D
I wish I had that rig! I think it's the one they presented to Charlton Heston.

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I see his initials on the grip, and the dates 1994-2003, is that his tenure as President of the NRA?
I suspect so, but I didn't know it was for that long.

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#33 Post by Old Savage » Mon Jan 14, 2013 11:56 am

Well Oly, I have a few months of recovery from this latest surgery according to the ortho so there certainly will be time. oldguy, El Chivo, maybe CowboyTutt and The Shadow would all be up I am sure. :)
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#34 Post by Mescalero » Mon Jan 14, 2013 12:21 pm

I should be able to attend.

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#35 Post by Old Savage » Mon Jan 14, 2013 1:06 pm

Super! :)
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#36 Post by J Miller » Mon Jan 14, 2013 1:47 pm

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Weather or not you could shoot, just being in a get together would do wonders for you.

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#37 Post by Old Savage » Mon Jan 14, 2013 2:25 pm

Well Joe, no doubt but weather and all will be more conducive in a few months. Better to get the boys out on a nice day.
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#38 Post by J Miller » Mon Jan 14, 2013 5:27 pm

Old Savage wrote:Well Joe, no doubt but weather and all will be more conducive in a few months. Better to get the boys out on a nice day.
Agreed about the nice day.

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#39 Post by oldguy » Mon Jan 14, 2013 8:09 pm

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#40 Post by Mescalero » Mon Jan 14, 2013 8:14 pm

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#41 Post by Old Savage » Mon Jan 14, 2013 9:45 pm

OK - We're puttin' the band back together - :D - mission from God!
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#42 Post by Mescalero » Mon Jan 14, 2013 10:04 pm

:lol:
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#43 Post by awp101 » Mon Jan 14, 2013 10:13 pm

Old Savage wrote:OK - We're puttin' the band back together - :D - mission from God!
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#44 Post by olyinaz » Mon Jan 14, 2013 11:49 pm

Mescalero wrote:Maybe I bring some gold,
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Oly, do not play poker with OS!
I am warned! :D

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#45 Post by Mescalero » Mon Jan 14, 2013 11:51 pm

:wink:

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#46 Post by Old Savage » Tue Jan 15, 2013 12:19 am

Rest easy men, I quit playing poker in Rhode Island in 1968 - lost $3. I will try to get pics of the women - one still talks to me. :D The other - her daughters are liberals :( Last interchange didn't go so pretty well. :D :D :D
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#47 Post by cshold » Tue Jan 15, 2013 7:51 am

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#48 Post by Old Savage » Tue Jan 15, 2013 8:08 am

VERY NICE, VERY NICE INDEED!!! :)
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#49 Post by bdhold » Tue Jan 15, 2013 8:23 am

jumbeaux wrote:Doc I read a post here (I believe) that talked about USFA reducing their product offering to the high end and special editions. I have also read that their primary owner may have changed directions in manufacturing....wish I had purchased a USFA before they got so expensive....maybe another member will have more info sir....

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