New Rolling Block from Ballard or Shiloh in the works?

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New Rolling Block from Ballard or Shiloh in the works?

#1 Post by kaschi » Tue Apr 30, 2013 9:18 pm

Just read sorta recently that a new Rolling Block Rifle is in the works from either Ballard or Shiloh (can't remember which one, though). Can anyone confirm this? A quality US-made one would sure be nice. With the loss of Dave at Lone Star, I don't believe there are presently any US makers which manufacture a rolling block.

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Re: New Rolling Block from Ballard or Shiloh in the works?

#2 Post by FatJackDurham » Tue Apr 30, 2013 9:58 pm

http://www.hardcastlecustommachine.com/gallery.php

Curt Hardcastle doesn't manufacture them, but he does have a list of reconditioning services that may as well be new production.

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#3 Post by Don McDowell » Tue Apr 30, 2013 10:55 pm

Don't know what Ballard is doing, or if they are even still in business, but I'ld just about guarantee Shiloh isn't going to build a rolling block. C Sharps does offer the Hepburn which is an offshoot of the rolling block.

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Re: New Rolling Block from Ballard or Shiloh in the works?

#4 Post by DPris » Wed May 01, 2013 1:22 am

Isn't Remington still doing theirs?
Mine's about 12 years old, they still show them on the website.
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#5 Post by FatJackDurham » Wed May 01, 2013 6:28 am

Did pedersoli stop producinging theirs? There has been a John Bodine on the KTPguns site for a while...

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#6 Post by bdhold » Wed May 01, 2013 6:33 am

FatJackDurham wrote:http://www.hardcastlecustommachine.com/gallery.php

Curt Hardcastle doesn't manufacture them, but he does have a list of reconditioning services that may as well be new production.
nice link - his work is pretty - I liked the milled finish on the Martini

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Re: New Rolling Block from Ballard or Shiloh in the works?

#7 Post by Pete44ru » Wed May 01, 2013 7:46 am

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AFAIK, Pedersoli's producing the Remington RB's............... all is not what it seems, Grasshopper..... :roll:



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#8 Post by 6pt-sika » Wed May 01, 2013 11:44 am

Don McDowell wrote: C Sharps does offer the Hepburn which is an offshoot of the rolling block.

Yes sir and I think I 'd like one !

From the pics I really like it !

My friend that just passed had an original Hepburn in 40-70 SS that I would have loved to have .
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Re: New Rolling Block from Ballard or Shiloh in the works?

#9 Post by 6pt-sika » Wed May 01, 2013 11:46 am

Pete44ru wrote:.

AFAIK, Pedersoli's producing the Remington RB's............... all is not what it seems, Grasshopper..... :roll:



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If "I'm" paying the bill a Euro copy is not the same thing .

My gunsmith friend has a Pedersoli RB and Sharps and while they shoot just fine . Well for me atleast it isn't the same .
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#10 Post by Don McDowell » Wed May 01, 2013 12:00 pm

The pedersoli rolling blocks aren't the same as the Remingtons, they changed some of the spacings on the pins.

Those C Sharps Hepburns are nice, a fella I shoot with on occasion got the 1st 40-65 that came out the door, I believe it was the 3rd one CSA built. Very well fit and finished.

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Re: New Rolling Block from Ballard or Shiloh in the works?

#11 Post by DPris » Wed May 01, 2013 12:28 pm

Pedersoli does make Rollingblocks, but the ones that come out of Remington's Custom Shop are made by Remington.
I've worked with a Pedersoli & it was nice, but not as well done overall as my true Remington.
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Re: New Rolling Block from Ballard or Shiloh in the works?

#12 Post by Marc » Wed May 01, 2013 1:34 pm

Don McDowell wrote:Don't know what Ballard is doing, or if they are even still in business, but I'ld just about guarantee Shiloh isn't going to build a rolling block. C Sharps does offer the Hepburn which is an offshoot of the rolling block.
Don, how is the Hepburn an off shoot of the rolling block? A friend has an original Hepburn and it is a falling block.
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Re: New Rolling Block from Ballard or Shiloh in the works?

#13 Post by Don McDowell » Wed May 01, 2013 3:18 pm

Hepburn was a Remington employee, the flush handle runs the block etc. It may be a falling block of sorts, but the block stays within the action much like the rolling block and does not come thru the action such as a Sharps, 1885, etc.

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Re: New Rolling Block from Ballard or Shiloh in the works?

#14 Post by Marc » Wed May 01, 2013 5:05 pm

It is a falling block pure and simple. The breech block slides vertically in mortises inside the receiver. That is what a falling block is.
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#15 Post by Don McDowell » Wed May 01, 2013 5:45 pm

What ever you say.... :roll:

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Re: New Rolling Block from Ballard or Shiloh in the works?

#16 Post by KWK » Wed May 01, 2013 10:28 pm

There was a custom shop, Lozito in New York, that used to offer a rolling block action in the white; it was pretty expensive, as I recall. They also offered a replica of the 1875 Sharps prototypes, albeit with somewhat improved internals. Their site no longer mentions actions, though.

As for Hepburns, DZ in Oklahoma makes a very nice one, but I last handled one of theirs nearly 10 years ago. For those wanting to roll their own, Upper Missouri Trading in Nebraska offers a kit.

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Re: New Rolling Block from Ballard or Shiloh in the works?

#17 Post by kaschi » Wed May 01, 2013 11:25 pm

I read about the US made one in either GUNS or AMERICAN HANDGUNNER. Mike Venturino made short mention of it.

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