Leverguns Texas Summer Safari AUGUST 8-10th

RKrodle · Post by **RKrodle** » Tue Jun 10, 2008 8:20 pm

There you go Mike. PMed.

rjohns94 · Post by **rjohns94** » Tue Jun 10, 2008 8:50 pm

thanks Ricky

O.S.O.K. · Post by **O.S.O.K.** » Wed Jun 18, 2008 8:53 pm

RKrodle wrote:tomclink, I sent you a PM with Directions. If anyone else needs them let me know and I will PM them to you.

Me too -

RKrodle · Post by **RKrodle** » Thu Jun 19, 2008 3:29 pm

O.S.O.K, PM sent with directions. Look forward to meeting you.

RSY · Post by **RSY** » Thu Jun 19, 2008 7:46 pm

Man, that looks pretty close to town on Google Earth. We're not gonna be disturbing the neighbors, now, are we???

Scott

86er · Post by **86er** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 10:43 am

Looks are deceiving - it is quite a ways out in the sticks. 1.5 miles from the intersection.

86er · Post by **86er** » Wed Jun 25, 2008 11:17 pm

It's time to start sending deposits, please. Meat/hog hunters, $375 total (and no guarantee on the hogs). Others, let me know what animals you are interested in so I can give you a total. You can switch your credit to something else once the hunt starts if you need to.
Thanks

RSY · Post by **RSY** » Wed Jun 25, 2008 11:36 pm

I think I sent half in already. When do you want the balance?

I am still interested in a big ol' Chital doe, but may be tempted to change my mind once I get there.

Thanks, and most of all I'm really looking forward to seeing all y'all.

Scott

Tommy Reb · Post by **Tommy Reb** » Thu Jun 26, 2008 1:16 am

86er, I believe the hog/meat hunt was quoted at $350. I have already paid a $100 deposit. Does your last post mean you would like for us to pay the balance now?

86er · Post by **86er** » Thu Jun 26, 2008 9:38 pm

Sorry - $350 for meat hunters, balance due by 7/18.

O.S.O.K. · Post by **O.S.O.K.** » Fri Jul 04, 2008 5:10 pm

OK - what are the options for the culls - most likely?

86er · Post by **86er** » Fri Jul 04, 2008 11:03 pm

Here's what I foresee as cull:

2 scimitar each with broken horns, $750 each

2 Longhorn Steers (awesome eating!) $800 each (1600 pounds each @ .50 per pound)

1 Watusi 1 year old $500 and I'll give you 1/4 meat and the whole hide

1 fallow buck white has two different antlers and a bum back leg $900

O.S.O.K. · Post by **O.S.O.K.** » Sat Jul 05, 2008 9:56 am

OK Thanks.

So the $350 is female/doe of the species like an Axis doe.

I've got questions about what to bring - bedding and such too - but I'll read up the thread to see if it's been addressed.

OK - "accomodations" provided, we can figure chow out there. That makes it easy.

I saw in one of the initial replies a "ram" referred to for $350. That's $350 on top of the meat hunt right?

A ram like this?

or this?

How about this? Spanish Goat Ram?:

I'm thinkin I might gift Smitty a Ram and I'm trying to figure out what exactly that means - sorry for the exotic noob questions

I've basically participated in "redneck" hunting

prior to this - whitetail, hog, bobcat, dove, duck, goose, rabbit, squirrel, etc. - nothing exotic.

I'm really looking forward to this!

86er · Post by **86er** » Sat Jul 05, 2008 11:27 am

A ram is a sheep with the curled horns like the black one or white one. I will select one with you for $350 total. The goats are Feral goats or spanish catalina goats. They cost $550 total (but I may cull one on this hunt for less).

O.S.O.K. · Post by **O.S.O.K.** » Sat Jul 05, 2008 12:36 pm

OIC. I will want to go with a ram for sure then - something new for me. And yes, a sheep is a ram, a goat is a billy.... man

That won't take much of a rifle. Perhaps if my newly completed swede 94 sporter (bought chopped) would be the thing - just loaded some 129 grain hornadys to test... I'll see what Smitty is thinking and let you know if he wants to go to a corsican...

A 30-30 with 150 grain loads would be good too.

I'll probably bring the 30-30 Texican I just bought or one of my 94's and the Swede if it groups well.

86er · Post by **86er** » Sun Jul 06, 2008 6:57 pm

Don't be fooled by the rams - they are tough and tenacious. Remind me to show you the video of the client that shot a balck hawaian with a 30-06 5 times over the course of 10 minutes chasing it all over the ranch. Terry Barlow, one of our hunt winners shot his with a 308 right through the boiler room and he shot it again when it ran about 30 yards. I just got one with the 30-30 that I hit through the shoulder and two more times as it ran up a hill. When I dragged it back down, it decided to kick and fight for a few second on its last breath! Anything that works well on whitetail deer is good for rams, but don't think they are soft or easy.

O.S.O.K. · Post by **O.S.O.K.** » Mon Jul 07, 2008 2:16 pm

Tougher than their size would indicate huh? Maybe a .270 with 130 grain triple shocks would do better on them? Or I can go the other way and use a 35 Rem... which seems to put them down better in your experience?

I habitually shoot for the heart/lung but that usually means a 50 to 100 yard run - for bucks.

86er · Post by **86er** » Mon Jul 07, 2008 3:03 pm

A 35 Rem would be perfect.

RSY · Post by **RSY** » Mon Jul 07, 2008 3:29 pm

O.S.O.K. wrote:Tougher than their size would indicate huh? Maybe a .270 with 130 grain triple shocks would do better on them? Or I can go the other way and use a 35 Rem... which seems to put them down better in your experience?

I habitually shoot for the heart/lung but that usually means a 50 to 100 yard run - for bucks.

If you're really wanting to shoot the .270 Win (aka .30-06 Improved

), I think I'd use something that opens up a little more that the Triple Shock will while going through that little body. I'd throw my favorite 140-gr InterLock at one of those billies anyday.

Scott

awp101 · Post by **awp101** » Wed Jul 09, 2008 8:29 pm

Which license do I need? Just the regular 101 Resident Hunting?

No matter what, I don't think I have my Hunter's Ed cert anymore since I haven't thought about it in years.

86er · Post by **86er** » Wed Jul 09, 2008 9:39 pm

You need a regular hunting license or a 5-day exotic license ($45). Either one will do.

O.S.O.K. · Post by **O.S.O.K.** » Sat Jul 12, 2008 12:28 pm

86er wrote:A 35 Rem would be perfect.

OK then.

RSY · Post by **RSY** » Sat Jul 12, 2008 9:43 pm

Thought I'd throw this out there. I don't know how it's been around Hondo this year, but we've had a particularly bad summer for ticks in the London area (Kimble County). In fact, my 2-year-old niece contracted Lyme disease a couple of months ago at my Dad's place just west of there. So, be sure and pack some bug juice.

Scott

86er · Post by **86er** » Mon Jul 14, 2008 4:50 pm

THIS POST IS THE OFFICIAL "PAID" ROSTER. I WILL EDIT IT AS PAYMENTS COME IN.

RJohns94 - PAID - Trophy Bison, Ram

Altinak - PAID - Meat Bison

Tom Clinks - PAID - Meat Hunt (Antlerless, Hog or Cull)

RKrodle - PAID - Oryx

RSY - PAID - meat hunt

AWP101 - PAID - meat hunt

Jac and Smitty - PAID - Two Jacobs Four HornedRams

RSY · Post by **RSY** » Mon Jul 14, 2008 5:08 pm

Thanks for the reminder. Mine will be en route tout de suite.

I can't believe we're already coming up on this. Time flies.

awp101 · Post by **awp101** » Mon Jul 14, 2008 9:17 pm

RSY wrote:Thanks for the reminder. Mine will be en route tout de suite.

Same here! DOH!

86er · Post by **86er** » Mon Jul 14, 2008 11:09 pm

You can use PayPal to send funds or use a credit card, however you must add the fee percentage so your balance that I receive is correct. The e-mail address for PayPal is:
TWOTUBE@OPTONLINE.NET

piller · Post by **piller** » Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:29 am

I can't go, work issues, but I'll suggest that those who do go get some of the spray with permethrin in it where you spray your boots and pant legs to kill ticks. You can't spray this stuff on your skin, but it is safe on outer clothing and boots/shoes and such. It is effective. Ask any Doctor who has treated it, you do not want to get Lyme disease. For those of you going, I hope you have a great time.

p.s. Don't forget to post the pictures as soon as you get back.

awp101 · Post by **awp101** » Tue Jul 15, 2008 7:36 pm

The Czech is in the mail as of today!

O.S.O.K. · Post by **O.S.O.K.** » Wed Jul 16, 2008 10:25 am

Joe - check for me and guest Smitty is in the mail - two for Rams.

Oh, and are the ticks that bad? Not questioning this, just surprised as I've never noticed em before -must have had a big hatch out?

RKrodle · Post by **RKrodle** » Sat Jul 19, 2008 3:15 pm

Deep Woods OFF, Works good, lasts a long time and won't rust, bust or collect dust.

Boots instead of sandals, long pants instead of shorts, and if you can stand it a long sleeve shirt. Now, Joe will be wearing short sleeve shirt, shorts, and low top shoes.

I usually wear a pair of light hunting boots, light long paints, ya'll don't even want to see my white legs, and SS shirt. Big brimmed hat helps to keep the sun off you also. If you have a Therma cell bring it along. Mosquitoes have a love affair with me. As long as I'm around no one else will be bothered by them because they will be sucking ME dry.

RSY · Post by **RSY** » Sat Jul 19, 2008 3:28 pm

RKrodle wrote:Mosquitoes have a love affair with me. As long as I'm around no one else will be bothered by them because they will be sucking ME dry.

Sounds good to me. I like you, already.

Scott

RKrodle · Post by **RKrodle** » Sat Jul 19, 2008 5:29 pm

Yeah, I finally found something I'm good at.

RSY · Post by **RSY** » Mon Jul 21, 2008 12:07 am

Should I bother bringing a .22 rimfire? Wasn't sure if there were to be any plinking sessions, or not. It would be a lever, or course: Marlin 56 Levermatic.

If not because spooking game is a problem, understood and enough said.

Scott

rjohns94 · Post by **rjohns94** » Mon Jul 21, 2008 5:35 am

Thats a good question, what items should we bring? sleeping bag? Pillow? What is needed?

86er · Post by **86er** » Mon Jul 21, 2008 10:42 am

All the bedding and eating goods are included. You need shorts, T-Shirt, low boots and a sombrero. If you are Ricky's friend you need long pants, long sleeved shirt, tall boots and a parka with a hood. You may sight in, but no long shooting sessions, my Perre David Deer are using the rifle range as a home. At $10K each I don't think you want to risk a ricochet or other mishap. If someone wants to bid a few bucks on the rabbit and varmint hunt that will be one night and one morning you should bring a .22 or other appropriate gun for that.

IF ANYONE IF THINKING OF SWITCHING UP TO SOMETHING BIGGER - THERE ARE SOME NILGAI FOR $750 THIS HUNT ONLY, ONE SMALL BISON AVAILABLE AT $800, TWO WATUSI AT $750 EACH. THIS IS HALF OFF FOR FELLOW FORUM MEMBERS!

Here's a preview of events to come:

RSY · Post by **RSY** » Mon Jul 21, 2008 11:01 am

86er wrote:...eating goods are included.

Just to clarify: You're talking cookware, dishes, and utensils, right? From one of your earlier posts I was under the impression victuals were definitely not in the deal.

Thanks,
Scott

86er · Post by **86er** » Mon Jul 21, 2008 11:15 am

We will eat out or cook as a group but I have silverware (plastic ware and paper cups and plates) and there are pots and pans, etc. I doesn't hurt to bring you own coffe mug and knife and fork. (Less cleaning at the end).

rjohns94 · Post by **rjohns94** » Mon Jul 21, 2008 4:48 pm

Thanks, I will bring my .22 too.

awp101 · Post by **awp101** » Tue Jul 22, 2008 8:03 pm

86er wrote:You may sight in, but no long shooting sessions, my Perre David Deer are using the rifle range as a home. At $10K each I don't think you want to risk a ricochet or other mishap.

Uhm yeah, good point...

86er wrote:If someone wants to bid a few bucks on the rabbit and varmint hunt that will be one night and one morning you should bring a .22 or other appropriate gun for that.

Is this going to be an auction type thing? Would a single shot .223 be overkill?

86er · Post by **86er** » Tue Jul 22, 2008 8:13 pm

It's an auction thing - highest bidder gets to go. There are cottontails, maybe a handful of jacks and could be a coon, 'possum or ringtail. I think .223 is too much noise and power.

86er · Post by **86er** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 7:32 pm

Also would like to shoot two Jacobs Four Horned Sheep (like the one's in the Bible) at $500 each, and a 1400 pound white Longhorn cow with good horns at $600 (excellent meat), and a Muntjac buck with good 5 inch fangs at $1200 , and a Parma or Rock Wallaby for $600, for those of you that might be interested in something different.

rjohns94 · Post by **rjohns94** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 8:40 pm

Muntjac buck: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muntjac

Fascinating

O.S.O.K. · Post by **O.S.O.K.** » Sat Jul 26, 2008 11:44 am

Jacob's Four Horned Sheep:

That's obviously a ram.

And a ewe.

Are these pictures representative or are they like a super-trophy class - show bread sheep? I'm thinking the latter as the ram's really got some head gear there, an old man - a younger/shorter horned version ram would be great. Now that'd make an outstanding mount.... can we upgrade to this? That is, from Ram to JFHS for the difference? Are you talking ram or ewe? I have a feeling that I'll be sending a an upgrade check for Smitty ( and mabe me too) - I think he'd really get a kick outta that - and ya'll have to keep this to yourselves as I think I'll spring it on him at the camp...

I can see the mount hanging at his farm right now.... yeah

Might have to come up with something creative to surprise him... like "sorry - we ran out of ram slots... (long pause) ... you OK with a Jacob's Four Horned Ram?

I can just hear him now "a wut?"....

All of his other buddies will say "what the heck is that?"

He'd love telling them what it is and about the hunt. Probably generate some more business for Joe!

Joe, you're a good salesman

RSY · Post by **RSY** » Sat Jul 26, 2008 12:16 pm

Based on a lot of folks' locales, it looks like we're gonna have somewhat of a "levergun convoy" headed down IH-35 come friday after next.

Cool.

Scott

86er · Post by **86er** » Sat Jul 26, 2008 12:53 pm

The Jacobs Four-Horned Sheep on the ranch have about 1/2 the top length and nearly the same side horn length as the one pictured. One is bigger than the other but no by much.

O.S.O.K. · Post by **O.S.O.K.** » Sat Jul 26, 2008 1:57 pm

86er wrote:The Jacobs Four-Horned Sheep on the ranch have about 1/2 the top length and nearly the same side horn length as the one pictured. One is bigger than the other but no by much.

That sounds great! Can I upgrade for the price over the ram? $150/per right? If so, I'll put a check in the mail.

I think for both of us.

awp101 · Post by **awp101** » Sat Jul 26, 2008 2:16 pm

O.S.O.K. wrote:
That's obviously a ram.

I think I saw something like that on an album cover back in my younger days when I was REALLY into heavy metal...

86er · Post by **86er** » Sat Jul 26, 2008 2:44 pm

I'm guessing you want both 4-horn's. $300 will have them there for ya!

O.S.O.K. · Post by **O.S.O.K.** » Sat Jul 26, 2008 3:59 pm

86er wrote:I'm guessing you want both 4-horn's. $300 will have them there for ya!

Book em Danno! (that's an affirmative on the booking - two Jacob's 4 horns) I'll send the check off on Monday.

Found some more pics of em - are your's more like this? (without the hair cut...)