Advice please Amadeo Rossi, 20" round barrel (blue) in .44

[2571]

Have never had a Rossi of any sort. Have an oppprtunity to buy an estate rifle for $300, supposedly in very good shape. I'm able to judge that myself. Price (from 'net research)seems fair, not great.

I've got Marlin & Winchester levers & I hear y'all talking about Rossi's.

Any general adviceabout this model? I've got a .44 Ruger pistol & am set up for reloading. I ususally buy American; I know nothing about this Amadeo model.

TIA

[Lefty Dude]

Thats a good price, I'd buy it in a NY minute.

I am sure Steve Young would also.

[Pete44ru]

IIRC, some of the Rossi.44 Mags were made with oversize bores, and aren't particularly accurate - although the price may be attractive.

If Kiowa doesn't see this and chime in, it may be a dice toss for you.

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[gak]

If yours has its front sight located ON the barrel band rather than the barrel itself as later ones do, it is likely an Interarms (importer)-era Rossi and you're probably ok. Similarly, if it's one of the current batch you're probably ok too--the silly/ambiguous safety switch atop the receiver.notwithstanding. Some of the middle era .44s--late 90s to early 2000s?-- were said to have the overbore issue. These are still probably fine anyway for at least minute of critter usually, just not tack drivers. I've had .44s frm what I'd say are all importers and most if not all "eras" and never had a problem. Either way, enjoy. Great guns.

[gglass]

IIRC, some of the Rossi.44 Mags were made with oversize bores, and aren't particularly accurate - although the price may be attractive.

This is not the case with the newest Rossi 1892 Puma .44 Magnums. Mine is one of the "not so Western" scoped scout models and I cannot believe the accuracy of this rifle.

As mentioned above, the middle-era Rossi's did have oversize bores, but not the early or late models.

This is my best 10-shot grouping at 50-yards. Yes, I was aiming for the heart and as mentioned, I was using a scope.

[NonPCnraRN]

IIRC, some of the Rossi.44 Mags were made with oversize bores, and aren't particularly accurate - although the price may be attractive.

This is not the case with the newest Rossi 1892 Puma .44 Magnums. Mine is one of the "not so Western" scoped scout models and I cannot believe the accuracy of this rifle.

As mentioned above, the middle-era Rossi's did have oversize bores, but not the early or late models.

This is my best 10-shot grouping at 50-yards. Yes, I was aiming for the heart and as mentioned, I was using a scope.

You should aim for center mass. Bad guys don't have hearts! On second thought, gut shoot 'em. Make sure you use a good hollowpoint so they get peritonitis from all the intestinal flora. Surviving would be worse than dying quickly. Boy, am I in a foul mood! Quick, more coffee! Back on topic, if the barrel is oversized you could get it replaced or possibly use larger sized cast bullets.

[76/444]

FYI,....

Contrary to public opinion,... the human heart is located at center mass. The lower left quadrant tends to lay a little to the left of center, but basically, center mass. And an enemy can return fire for almost a full minute with an exploded heart and the brain can survive without damage, without blood flow, for almost 5 minutes. Center mass hits without penetration to the upper spinal column can result in return fire as well.

If the above POA were to be brought in to the left, under the #9,.... I think it would be perfect for both heart and upper spine.

[mikld]

I have a Puma that has the oversize bore. I slugged it and got .431" to .432" (4 slugs). I just cast .432" Ranchdog 265 gr. boolits, tumble lube or pan lube, and she shoots fine, although I haven't tried out to 50 yds yet.

[76/444]

I have a Puma that has the oversize bore. I slugged it and got .431" to .432" (4 slugs). I just cast .432" Ranchdog 265 gr. boolits, tumble lube or pan lube, and she shoots fine, although I haven't tried out to 50 yds yet.

If you ever need/want to buy some factory oversize,...Bear Tooth has some.

http://www.beartoothbullets.com/bulletselect/index.htm

(for selection- scroll down on the left side of the page)

[NonPCnraRN]

FYI,....

Contrary to public opinion,... the human heart is located at center mass. The lower left quadrant tends to lay a little to the left of center, but basically, center mass. And an enemy can return fire for almost a full minute with an exploded heart and the brain can survive without damage, without blood flow, for almost 5 minutes. Center mass hits without penetration to the upper spinal column can result in return fire as well.

If the above POA were to be brought in to the left, under the #9,.... I think it would be perfect for both heart and upper spine.

That is true. The holes are where you hear the heart the best but it is not where all the arteries and veins of the heart and lungs are concentrated. 76/44 is correct, but I doubt the brain can function for 5 min to return fire. He is also correct about a thoracic spine hit, the higher the better as nothing will work below where the spine is damaged. A center mass hit will mean the diaphram won't work (no breathing) and the bad guy won't have any legs to stand on. That is why I like lead 230 gr truncated cone bullets in the 45 ACP. I don't worry about overpenetration. I worry about under penetration. Back on topic Beartooth makes a 250 gr WFN and 265 gr WFN which can be bought sized from 0.429 to 0.432 inches. So you should be covered no matter what your bore size is...unless it is .475 (like my Puma) .

[Nate Kiowa Jones]

As mentioned some of the 44mag Rossi's had oversize bores. But to the best of my knowledge none of the InterArms imported guns had this problem. (these were th ones with the front sight on the barrel band). The bad ones were imported by LSI mainly but some of the EMF's were also bad. This was from the early 2000's. . Starting in about 2004 I brought this to the attention of EMF and Rossi and it took awhile, about Dec 2006. That was when the first batch with the correct barrels made it through customs.

[uncowboy]

I have an older one and I have had experiance with several from my Cowboy days. Rossie rifles are hit or miss. You can't tell by looking what you have but you can fix the problems on them with a little work. I would buy the rifle at that price because the worst one I have see was still a OK shooter.
MINE had a problem of a bbl restriction where the bbl screws into the receiver. I beleive this is always overlooked and people blame a big bore. I firelapped the bbl till it was almost gone and I am still working with it . With the restriction removed the big bore shoots just fine. I also broke the fireing pin -Fairly comon problem to be aware of. I know a shooter at our sillohuette matches picked up a Rossie 357 for $265.00 at a local shop, Expecting the worst because of the price he bought it anyway. It shoots Federal Eagle 38SP into 1.5" at 100ysd and he uses it at every match and won't sell it at any price. He said he will die with it. hope this helps. J.Michael

[gglass]

Yikes! Holy over-thinking Batman!

Ease up guys. The heart shot target above was purely a Western movie analog that my son and I played out at the range. As we were sighting the Rossi 1892, we started talking about the Clint Eastwood movie "A Fistful of Dollars". We both took turns playing the scene in which Ramón shoots Clint several times in the "movie heart", only to find that Clint was wearing a metal plate under his poncho.

The purpose of the above target was simply to show the accuracy of the rifle. As stated, my scoped Rossi is a newly manufactured rifle and the reader would have to know that the POA and POI were the same.

[NonPCnraRN]

Yikes! Holy over-thinking Batman!

Ease up guys. The heart shot target above was purely a Western movie analog that my son and I played out at the range. As we were sighting the Rossi 1892, we started talking about the Clint Eastwood movie "A Fistful of Dollars". We both took turns playing the scene in which Ramón shoots Clint several times in the "movie heart", only to find that Clint was wearing a metal plate under his poncho.

The purpose of the above target was simply to show the accuracy of the rifle. As stated, my scoped Rossi is a newly manufactured rifle and the reader would have to know that the POA and POI were the same.

Sorry, but overthinking something is almost as much fun as shooting. Also if you have a honey-do list it is a great way to get out of doing it. "Yes honey, I will mow the lawn as soon as I am done helping a shooter with a gun problem. He needs my expertise before he wastes any more ammo!" She just stalks off muttering some unlady-like comment about my parents not being married when I was born.