Rossie model 92

[kooz]

I also recently picked up one of the standard 20" Braztech 92's in .45 and have been really happy with it so far. It feeds Keith bullets with no problem is very accurate and was plenty smooth right out of the box. It is at the smiths right now getting some XS sights installed. These guns are a very good value in my opinion, hope yours works out for you.

[Sarge]

Perhaps I should have been clearer.

Brownells part # 579-105-031 is in fact the Marbles 50W .500 tall front sight, with a 1/16" gold bead and the oddball 17/32" (13.5mm) wide dovetail base that fits these rifles.

I like the finest bead I can get on any open-sighted rifle and if there was something smaller than 1/16" available, I'd have bought it.

Kooz, by little .45 will feed any RN or SWC between 200-335 grains just as slick as a whistle.

[WyrTwister]

I have the Marlin .44 Mag , was supprised at the recoil , after all , it is a handgun caliber ?

My Rossie Puma is a .45 LC , fun , quick handleing little gun to shoot . And light .

It seems noticeably lighter than the Marlin .44 Mag . For that reason , I would like to ask about the recoil for 100% .44 Mag loads in the Rossi ?

God bless
Wyr

[Sarge]

The 16" .45 Colt will get your attention with 335's at 1350. It's not a 'make you puke' kind of recoil but you can tell when it goes off.

[Sarge]

Just an update on the .500 tall bead with the Marbles folding leaf, on the 16" M92 in 45 Colt.

I've now shot probably 60-70 rounds three .45 Colt reloads, which see a lot of use in my sixgun. They are listed below with the chrono'ed velocity from the Rossi-

*a Sierra 240 JHP at 1550 fps over H110 or W296, (Ruger only) per Hodgdon's Data site
*a factory duplication load of a 250 RNFP over 7.2 of W231 at 950 fps
*John Linebaugh's 'working load' (Ruger only) of 13.0 of HS6 and a 255 SWC at 1232 fps

Both the lead bullet loads zeroed easily at 100 yards with these sights, the Linebaugh load shootinng a tad higher from the bench. Oddly, I see little difference shooting offhand and the RNFP load couldn't miss an old teakettle at 50 or 100 yards. Three of them at 50 yards could have been covered with a folded dollar bill.

The hot JHP load shoots high but just for grins, I fired a couple at 200. Both shots landed 9-10" above the aiming point, about 3" apart. There's a scruffy old coyote who occasionally wanders the terraces about 325 yards from the house...the next time I see him out there, I'll send him one to liven up his day a bit

I hate a gun that won't zero and to tell the truth, this one was about ready to go down the road until it got usable sights. Of course the wife liked the rifle all along, so it wasn't in too much danger of going off to market.

These days, I like it pretty good myself.

[2ndovc]

Mine's an older Interarms import.
Love this .357!

New sights and an action job by Mr. Young!
My favorite "fun gun" with box of .38spls or going walkabout in black bear territory
loaded with heavy 357s.



jb

[k8vf]

Are there any sights available to install on the older Rossis with the sight cast into the barrel band?

Or is ther a barrel band available with a dovetail in it?

Are there any sights which will fit the rear dovetail, as mine is an odd size compared to my Winchester/Rugers?

Thanks a lot.
Love that 92.

Mark

[Sarge]

k8vf-

If that was mine, I'd just have a 3/8 dovetail cut ahead of the band and replace or remodel the existing band.

I don't claim to be an authority on Rossi dovetails but my first suggestion would be to try the Marbles folding leaf rear sight, referenced and pictured earlier in this thread.

[Bruce Scott]

Are there any sights available to install on the older Rossis with the sight cast into the barrel band?

Or is ther a barrel band available with a dovetail in it?

Are there any sights which will fit the rear dovetail, as mine is an odd size compared to my Winchester/Rugers?

Thanks a lot.
Love that 92.

Mark

The barrel band sight should be pinned according to this diagram:
http://marauder.homestead.com/files/Rossi_92_Parts.htm

[AJMD429]

Are there any sights available to install on the older Rossis with the sight cast into the barrel band?

If all else fails, it shouldn't be too hard to get the sight you want, 'bead'-wise, and file off the sides and bottom so it could be pinned into the groove in the barrel band, if the gun is made like the drawing posted earlier.

Are there any sights which will fit the rear dovetail, as mine is an odd size compared to my Winchester/Rugers?

Occasionally, you see ones that are wider; I think maybe 'European' ones fit. I usually just shim mine with some thin metal underneath, and use regular 'American' ones. I think NKJ posted on this awhile back (and corrected some of my mis-assumptions) but I don't have the link handy.

[Nate Kiowa Jones]

Are there any sights available to install on the older Rossis with the sight cast into the barrel band?

Or is ther a barrel band available with a dovetail in it?

Are there any sights which will fit the rear dovetail, as mine is an odd size compared to my Winchester/Rugers?

Thanks a lot.
Love that 92.

Mark

Hello Mark,
Welcome to the fire. Sounds like you have one of the older Interarms imported Rossi's. Interarms went out of business in the late 90's. Up until then their Rossi's all had the barrel band front sight. That barrel band sight is not that hard to remedy. As mentioned a dovetail can be added just behind the band for a sight and the sight on the band can then be ground and polished off.
The problem will be the rear sight. Those early Rossi's have odd dovetail slots for the rear. They were cut roughly .400" where a standard 3/8" is usually around .375-.380". At one time Marbles made replacement rears for the older Rossi but no longer.

Here is my current fix for those older Rossi's. I build this front on the existing barrel band but with a 1/16" or 3/23" brass or silver bead. The old blade is ground off to the mount then it's slotted for a sculptured post and bead.



For the rear the options are even less. I build this win 94 style low semi on the original Rossi leaf with the oversized base.

[k8vf]

Thanks to all for the suggestions.

Steve, You are 100% on the rear dovetail slot, it is .400 and an oddball.
I looked at adding a shim, but wasn't enamored with the looks(Of course the 72 WInchester folded stamped steel dovetail rear sight on my 94 30-30 is wierd loooking, too.) If I can find some flat steel, I may hand file and cold blue a new dovetail and attach a sight to it(or send to YOU, for some action work also)

I really like the looks of your front sight, but would prefer a dovetail and would finish the barrel band to look like the other one.

It is a fact that these rifles have a front sight that is a part of the front barrel band. It is NOT pinned, but cast into the band. They are one piece. Many of us have not seen this, I am sure.

It works ok, you need to make sure it is tightened the same, and not wiggled at all or sight picture will be off. PLUS the magazine tube screw at the end cannot push too hard on the bottom of the barrel or it will affect your sighting, too.
(That is another wierd thing..the tube screw is SMALLER than the tube screw opening in the magazine, it screws tightly to the cap and pushes into the barrel...seems like it would be better if the screw was ALSO holding to the mag tube. But it is NOT.)

My problem was that I was attempting to use 125 grain JHP .357 rounds and the rear sight, EVEN WITH ELEVATOR REMOVED, would not go low enough. SO, higher front sight needed.

Instead, I accomodated it by going to 158 grain JHP rounds, and elevator is ONE click up from Bottom at 70 yds.

This is my first rossi, a yard sale find in new cond, and I love it.

The coyotes don't like it at all, though.!

I sure enjoy the help, conversation, and information this forum provides.

best wishes to all.

Mark.

[k8vf]

Just for sake of discussion, has ANYONE seen, tried, or used the B-square side mount scope mount for the Rossi?

I used one on a Mini 14 some years back, and wondered if it held ok on a 357?

I have a couple new red dots in the drawer looking for a place to go, and hunting coyotes at and after dusk can be tough. Even with a foot of snow on the ground.


It might be the ticket for me and would be removeable.

Mark

[Mutt]

Yes you did OK!!! Mutt

[AJMD429]

Just for sake of discussion, has ANYONE seen, tried, or used the B-square side mount scope mount for the Rossi?
I used one on a Mini 14 some years back, and wondered if it held ok on a 357?

I have used this mount on a couple Rossis (shown on a 24" octagonal .357), and it held zero well, and was sturdy. You could use tang or other sights when it was on the gun. The 'bad reviews' I see about them all seem to boil down to improper mounting, but if you've dealt with mounting on the Mini-14 it's the same exact thing. I won't go into all the mounting details but do it right and it works fine. My only gripe was for some reason I couldn't get the Rossi screw you remove to go in the neat 'storage hole' built into the sight, so I put it into the parts drawer. Later on when I removed the sight, I'm 'screwless' and can't find the original. I will have to get hold of NKJ and get a new filler screw at some point.

I have a couple new red dots in the drawer looking for a place to go, and hunting coyotes at and after dusk can be tough. Even with a foot of snow on the ground.
It might be the ticket for me and would be removeable.

THIS setup works great even at night.



Here's more pics and story on making the 'Night Scout' rifle...

http://www.levergunscommunity.com/viewt ... =1&t=23531

[k8vf]

OK, thanks..might try one. They are about $40-60, $37 at Midway-out of stock of course.

Some of the reviews are downright BAD!

But I have on on my Ruger MKII now and it seems ok.

Now if I can get my ammo delivered..ha.

Ordered some last week with a 1 month delivery, now they say 5 months..eeek!


MArk

[pricedo]

Borregos wrote:

I got my Rossi 92 on 29th October (a birthday present to myself) but have not shot it yet due to deer season and renovating the bathroom. No pictures posted due to PC problems, I am using an old laptop, but pictures and range report will come! I know I am going to enjoy it, it is a 44Mag with a 24" octagon barrel.

The great thing is the Rossi's they ship to Canada do not have the ugly bolt safety so I have a spare plug I got from Steve's Guns, anybody who wants it drop me a PM and I will send it

There are still a few Rossi Puma 92s WITHOUT the silly safeties kicking around Canadian stores like Frontier Firearms & Wanstalls but they are getting scarce.

I'm not seeing a big push to stock the new Braztec R92s (with the safety) in Canadian stores at present.

I was lucky enough to get a Rossi Puma 92 16" inch carbine in .44 Mag, another 16" carbine in .357 Mag and a 20" rifle in .454 Casull.........ALL 3 guns WITHOUT the silly safeties.

I spotted 2 SAFETYLESS Rossi Pumas in .44 Mag with the 24" octagonal barrel.....1 stainless, the other blue as well as 2 SAFETYLESS 20" round barrel Rossi Pumas 1 in .45LC & 1 in .454 Casull while surfing/shopping today in Canadian on-line stores.

The 16" models favored by Canadian heavy brush hunters have all been bought up.

I kinda like the factory sights.......I adjust the properly centered back sight for elevation only & it ain't no big deal to adjust the front sight for windage with a short handled mall & a brass punch with the last inch or so of the barrel snout protruding off the edge of a solid wooden bench at the range.