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Can someone explain this bullet to me??

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When I look at this bullet all I can come up with is, "Huh?" What am I missing here? Is there a reason why a jacketed bullet should be shaped this way?

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No idea but that is crazy looking.
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longer bullet for a short throat?

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More bearing surface, Maybe? Don't know?

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More weight forward w/o increasing bore riding length. Possibly increases downrange stability as it may reduce disturnace in yaw as it drops into subsonic speeds.
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Griff wrote:More weight forward w/o increasing bore riding length. Possibly increases downrange stability as it may reduce disturnace in yaw as it drops into subsonic speeds.
OK, I found something on it. S&B calls the bullet an SPCE for "Soft Point Cut-trough Edge". It looks like they offer it in some other, mostly European, chamberings as well. I guess it's designed for greater tissue damage but I just don't think I buy that. The edge/shelf allegedly helps to mechanically lock in the soft core.

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olyinaz wrote:
Griff wrote:More weight forward w/o increasing bore riding length. Possibly increases downrange stability as it may reduce disturnace in yaw as it drops into subsonic speeds.
OK, I found something on it. S&B calls the bullet an SPCE for "Soft Point Cut-trough Edge". It looks like they offer it in some other, mostly European, chamberings as well. I guess it's designed for greater tissue damage but I just don't think I buy that. The edge/shelf allegedly helps to mechanically lock in the soft core.
http://www.sellier-bellot.cz/most-recom ... rtcuts.php
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Probably a better theory than my SWAG! Although, unless the gilding mat'l is thicker on those corners, it seems they would serve as great "break" points for the nose to collapse back into the core... interesting concept. Certainly "outside-the-box!" :P
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Looks like Speers 308 plinker.
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Actually, it can be used in the earlier versions of the 8mm X 57mm that came in .318, 3215, and the .323 bore diameters. The theory is that the smaller diameter of the forward section of the bullet rides in the minor bore diameter, then the larger circumference would be easier to swage to the rifling.
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Ok that does make sence!
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Really? European stuff often looks weird.
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It will punch a clean hole in a paper target like a SWC.
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This bullet looks similar to a number of bullets designed back in the 1950's for metric calibers and were popular. I am wanting to say RWS, maybe Norma and one or two others. One name comes to mind for the bullet was torpedo or some such. Were intended to hold together in thick skinned game. They had and have some good designs but were pricey, but didn't really catch on in the U.S.A. for costs reasons and calibers it was made in. Sorry maybe Cartridges of the World may show some I believe it was popular in 8MM and 9.3 stuff. Just winging it and I could be all wrong. Maybe someone from Europe or near there may be more familar with this bullet design. I don't think it is something really new. Get a round or two and cut it in half lengthwise to see what all goes into it. Have a good weekend.
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Old Time Hunter said the same thing that came to mind first
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The larger diameter is cut by/rides the rifling, the groove dia., and the smaller portion rides the bore dia. In lead bullets I think it's called a "Bore Rider"...? :?:
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See what Cliff wrote. I recall seeing drawings of European manufactured metric ammunition back in the old 1960's Stoeger's catalogues. Some may have been loaded for a few of the British calibres as well, but I can not say for sure.
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Cliff wrote:This bullet looks similar to a number of bullets designed back in the 1950's for metric calibers and were popular. I am wanting to say RWS, maybe Norma and one or two others. One name comes to mind for the bullet was torpedo or some such. Were intended to hold together in thick skinned game. They had and have some good designs but were pricey, but didn't really catch on in the U.S.A. for costs reasons and calibers it was made in. Sorry maybe Cartridges of the World may show some I believe it was popular in 8MM and 9.3 stuff. Just winging it and I could be all wrong. Maybe someone from Europe or near there may be more familar with this bullet design. I don't think it is something really new. Get a round or two and cut it in half lengthwise to see what all goes into it. Have a good weekend.
Yes, that's what S&B gets at in their description of the bullet. I get the impression that it's just another means of "locking" the core.

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