LeverBob wrote:I quit using weights about 1975. What I have used since then is:
Ed Parker's Kenpo Karate system. I run through the whole sysem in about a month. Start at yellow belt & continue through 3rd BB. Techniques, forms, multiple attacks, basics, etc.
JuFuDo Kenpo Combat system: GM Wakeling is a close friend & I supliment the Parker system with his. I can still do 180 degree side splits due to his particular form of torture.
Matt Fury's body weight conditioning system. He uses The Royal Indian Court system which uses body weight conditioning for the Indian royal court guards & sf's.
In the past I used the US Air Forces system which I sound superior to the Navy SF's system.
The detraction for me with weights is the isolation of muscle groups & the danger or injury. Every one of my friends who pushes iron has had a serious injury due to mis-application of technique in lifting weights. Rotator cuff surgeries for several.
For me it is flexibility: stretches, releases & so on to balance the strength training.
I have an old friend who is 69 yrs. old. He is an original UDT/Navy Seal. Served two tours in 'Nam: 1960 & 1964. He runs 5 miles per day with his dogs over the desert west of Fallon, Nv. He then rides his bike to Lahontan Reservoir (about 7 miles one way) & swims 1.5 miles one way to an island located in the holding lake north of the dam & back. Now, he has invited me to do the same....says he's lonely.
Holy cow! Even though I can still swim like a fish this is quite a challenge...maybe I ought to man-up & give it a try. What do the pards think?
Choose your poison pards...but get up & do something instead of being a couch potato. When technique runs out, strength & conditioning finishes up. You'll be sore & achy for days, but that will go away if you will to do it.
LB
LeverBob,
Wow, are you saying in a month you went through all those degree of belts?
Anyhow,that sounds like some good stuff your doing cause it's working good for you guy.(well done)
Truth about weight training is the weights don't cause the injury its when people push it to extremes.(like anything else)
Don't get me wrong,the martial arts thing is a very good thing also (I studied from Hidy Ochiai himself in Vestal,NY and receiving a BB from his school is extremely hard(took almost 6 years)anyhow--------back to the weight thing---------
The key thing these days,its all about time and about being able to do this training at anytime night/day and at home(inside during any weather condition)
People get to wrapped up in the (I have to lift a ton thing or I am a whimp)thinking.
A new person starting out should start out say with just the bar(an Olympic 7ft weighs 55-60lbs)some vary depending on collars etc.
All that is needed is 4 different exercises(period).And of these 4 all can be done the same day.(I don't believe the stuff about don't bench and then later curl thing)possibly a body builder does that because of the vast amount of breakdown he is doing????
A person only needs when weight training to work the LARGE CORE muscles. By doing this (1) you save vast amount of time
(2)that precious time you did just spend benefit the total body the most in the most effective manner.
It's--------
Bench press========Squat=============Preacher Curl===============Seated Leg Extension
That's it period! and in the above order with there being minimal idle time.
Here's how-------lets say a new guy to weights(never lifted) Before going down to weight room---does 5 slow(girl pushups)
Why girl pushups and so few(I only want him to tell the muscles from his brain(alright get ready,somethings coming)then starts--
Bench press(bare bar)1st set 8-10 reps (takes 40 seconds) rests 30 seconds grabs (2) 20 lb dumbells and does 8-10 back straight half squats(takes 40 seconds) rests 30 seconds then goes to preacher bench and does 8-10 reps of 30lbs on E-Z Curl Bar(takes 40 seconds) rests for 30 seconds goes to Seated Leg Extension and does 8-10 reps of 50lbs(takes 40 seconds)
By doing it this way you are already with no more rest ready to start the 2nd set now----------same as above-------------------
Then 3rd set after================If you can or want====add another set or two?
Guess what by the not resting much thing you have kept your Heart rate elevated also and are getting a added benefit in that direction as well.
Of course after a person builds up the rep count also they can increase the reps or stay the same number of reps but with increased weight increase instead.(more reps=toning, more weight=added muscle mass)
Myself, I spend only about 30 mins usually three times a week doing the actual lifting part and 5 extra mins prior for light warmup(for the bench press) I do a mans pushup halfway down hold it for 1 min.(2 times)then start workout.
So I spend less than 2hrs a week with weights.In my own home. With no cost after initial cost.
If a person really shops around can get 300lb Olympic Set/something like a Weider Core 600 bench/E-Z Curl Bar/2 Dumbell handles
for around as low as =======$450
But this is only my opinion and don't just go by what I say-----talk to a Doc/Physical Therapist etc.first?
win7094m1 and Mike will send you a pm
.45colt----good luck dude!
What I have found (experiment) is that when I quit the weights and only rode bike(125miles@week)mountain bike on road my body started to go south. My BP stayed about same but my muscle structure started shrinking and I became weaker.
Also A biggy----------Weight training for OLDER people keeps their bone density evaluated to where it slows bone weakening.
I love it. 
