38-40 in a 92?

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38-40 in a 92?

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I've been watching the new Winoku TD models in 38-40.

Just wondering what people think of this oldtimer?
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I've had a couple different 38-40's. One of my favorite calibers ...like it even better than the 44-40
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I really like my Uberti '73 in 38-40, It seems to be accurate at the short ranges I've shot it, but don't have a lot of experience with it yet.
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I haven't fired My Win 92 yet, but whats not to like if it goes BANG. I guess I am a real Cowboy-I have a Colt SA to go with it.
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Re: 38-40 in a 92?

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If i wasnt so "enthralled" with the 45 colt in a Rossi Puma, i'd would already have one. The Owatonna Cabela's has 2 of them. They feel real nice,.
30/30 Winchester: Not accurate enough fer varmints, barely adequate for small deer; BUT In a 10" to 14" barrelled pistol; is good for moose/elk to 200 yards; ground squirrels to 300 metres

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The 38-40 is a great caliber in either pistol or rifle. I think you will be pleased with it, especially in the New Winchester 92.
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I have a first year 92 in 38-40. It is a great cartridge. It is very light recoiling, but still hits pretty hard.
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Some 38-40 bullets and cartridges of mine ....

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Very popular deer rifle in the East a century ago, especially using the HV loads offered in those days. You can pretty much duplicate the HV load with RL-7, launching a 180 gr. XTP .40 at around 1800 fps. The pressure is pretty low, less than 20K cup, but still NOT for pistols, Model '73s, etc.

I used to have a pretty decent Marlin '89 in that caliber, but was offered money, the root of every kind of evil. So, it's gone.
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Tumbleweeds II wrote:I used to have a pretty decent Marlin '89 in that caliber, but was offered money, the root of every kind of evil. So, it's gone.
Let that be a lesson to the rest of us here.
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If nothing more, I can serve as a bad example. :)
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The 38WCF one of the greats, to shoot and reload. I recently purchased a 92 made in 1903 in this calibre, unmessed with all original excellent bore.
Only had the chance to shoot it once so far, but very accurate over the 50 yard target I have shot. You will not regret a lever in this calibre.
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Tumbleweeds II wrote:Very popular deer rifle in the East a century ago, especially using the HV loads offered in those days. You can pretty much duplicate the HV load with RL-7, launching a 180 gr. XTP .40 at around 1800 fps. The pressure is pretty low, less than 20K cup, but still NOT for pistols, Model '73s, etc.

I used to have a pretty decent Marlin '89 in that caliber, but was offered money, the root of every kind of evil. So, it's gone.

And if by chance you have an original model 73, the original BP round is still available
today and just as effective on white-tailed deer now as it was back in 1873.

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Speaking about Model '73 38-40's, here's a photo of mine, made in 1891 ....

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Re: 38-40 in a 92?

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I guess it’s apparent Kirk and I are sold on the 38WCF :wink:
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Re: 38-40 in a 92?

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I seem to remember Elmer Keith saying that the 38-40 in his Colt SAA had great penetration, even better than the 44-40. If that's true, then it should really have good penetration out of a 16" or 20" tube.
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Re: 38-40 in a 92?

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TN Big Bore wrote:
I have a first year 92 in 38-40.
The telgraphist wrote:
I recently purchased a 92 made in 1903 in this calibre,
Any chance I have both of these rifles in my research survey? Please read the following and contact me if interested in adding your rifles to the work. I currently have exactly 2600 rifles in the effort. I am looking for every one I can find.
http://www.levergunscommunity.com/viewt ... ey#p343093

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Necks on older .38-40 cases tend to be thin and fragile. They are easily damaged when ejecting empties from a '92 style rifle.. I have been loading new Starline cases for a friend's '92 and Cimarron revolver, and find that the Starline brass is nearly indestructable, if you don't overdo it in the resizing department..
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Two-bit, you already have my rifle in your survey no.222387 I have yet to get you pictures of the rear sight, flip-up sporting sight that is original to the rifle.
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Re: 38-40 in a 92?

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Buck Elliott wrote:Necks on older .38-40 cases tend to be thin and fragile. They are easily damaged when ejecting empties from a '92 style rifle.. I have been loading new Starline cases for a friend's '92 and Cimarron revolver, and find that the Starline brass is nearly indestructable, if you don't overdo it in the resizing department..
Good advice. My 32-20 is hard on 32-20 Rem brass in my Winoku 92. Starline is getting easier to get here. Steve's Gunz sells an ejector spring for 92s that I will be buying this winter as I stocked up on Rem brass earlier. It is amazing how heavy that little spring makes the action feel. When I hold down on the ejecting case to protect the neck the drag on the receding bolt is much reduced.
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