No Caliber Less Than 100 Years Old

Blaine · Post by **Blaine** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 1:40 pm

I like to throw this out every couple years or so. Even with all the GeeWizBang magnums and fancy shooters out there, I posit that I could get along just fine with nothing less than a hundred years old (especially since I can count the .45acp and 1911 now

) A nice Winchester pump 12ga, a 7mm Mauser, one 25-20 for small fry, a few SAs in various flavors, a nice Sharps 45-70 and I'm good to go for anything that is currently being hunted. Oh...a nice, new .45 Schofield S&W

Streetstar · Post by **Streetstar** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 2:10 pm

You can easilly throw the 30-06 in there now too for a bit of long range pop in a medium caliber

Hawkeye2 · Post by **Hawkeye2** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 2:11 pm

You or I might be able to but all the folks out there with megabucks of disposable income don't want to be seen shooting anything older than their cell phone.

Mescalero · Post by **Mescalero** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 2:14 pm

hawkeye2,
that's funny
and I would glady assist them!

Old Ironsights · Post by **Old Ironsights** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 2:34 pm

the .45 ACP has been 100 y/o since 2005...

marlinman93 · Post by **marlinman93** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 2:49 pm

Well I for one need to have a couple that are newer than 100 yrs. old. I've been a fan of the old .22-250 since I was old enough to read about it, and since it's roots are as a wildcat in the 30's I can't stick to the 100 year rule. I've also been a fan of the parent cartridge the .250 sav. which isn't 100 yrs. old yet.
Most the others I enjoy are 100 yrs. old, but gotta have a couple exceptions for me!

El Chivo · Post by **El Chivo** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 2:51 pm

35 Rem is what? 1903?

stretch · Post by **stretch** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 2:54 pm

The late Jeff Cooper once opined that we have plenty of viable
calibers. What we need to do is improve the launching systems
and our skills as shootists.

I think I could get along just fine with calibers more than 100
years old.

Everything - 22 Long Rifle!

Pistol - 9mm and 45 ACP.

Revolver - I'd miss my 41 magnum.

- 38 Special.
- 44 Special
- 45 Colt - I'd have to buy a new gun or two.

Rifle - 30 WCF
- 35 Remington
- 30-06
- 7.62 X 54R
- I'd miss the 7.62 X 39, though.
- And maybe I'd miss the 243 Winchester.

Other than that, I could do it with what I've got, and it would
be a good excuse to try some "new" old-time calibers.

-Stretch

tman · Post by **tman** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 3:31 pm

A hot loaded 38-55 94 SRC and a 45ACP

Blaine · Post by **Blaine** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 4:31 pm

Just calibers...not launching platforms.

WCF3030 · Post by **WCF3030** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 4:35 pm

I hunt mostly with the 30-30, but when I need more push I go with the 30-06. I use the 12ga, 9mm and 38 Special for protection and ccw. All over 100 years.

allhands · Post by **allhands** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 4:44 pm

Although my pet caliber is the .444 Marlin (only 'cause my wife bought me the rifle 24 years ago) My favorite rifle round is the 7x57 mauser, and it is suitable for everything. Bell shot 1011 elephants with it, and thought it is not a "stopper" he did it. I don't see anyone in their right mind using it for that anymore (myself included) but it will be in our hands in Africa this May. It will do anthing in North America and I love it. .45 Acp works for me in my pistola, and 22LR fixes all the small stuff perfectly. A 12 Ga double rounds out the bunch, although I enjoy 20 Ga as well.... Just my 2 cents....

madman4570 · Post by **madman4570** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 4:58 pm

Honestly------only need one-------------------------------12ga

tman · Post by **tman** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 5:19 pm

BlaineG wrote:Just calibers...not launching platforms.

30-06, 38-55, .380, 45acp, .22lr, 12 gauge. 45-70 for Elephants.

Blaine · Post by **Blaine** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 5:26 pm

madman4570 wrote:Honestly------only need one-------------------------------12ga

I'm excited to see if that new 870 TactiCool with the ghost rings sights will throw slugs with accuracy. It's got a rail for a "whatever", too.

WinM71 · Post by **WinM71** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 6:11 pm

Couldn't do it, I'd have to go with 75 years or I'd lose the .348 and the Model 71 (1936).

tman · Post by **tman** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 6:28 pm

WinM71 wrote:Couldn't do it, I'd have to go with 75 years or I'd lose the .348 and the Model 71 (1936).

Cool, If we are gonna bend the rules

. winchester 94 bigbore .356 WCF. Glock 18, 33 round mag, Remington 870 18" barrell. If we gotta play by the rules;

1860 colt, 1866 winchester SRC in .44 henry rimfire flat. 1887 12 gauge

madman4570 · Post by **madman4570** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 6:46 pm

BlaineG wrote:
madman4570 wrote:Honestly------only need one-------------------------------12ga
I'm excited to see if that new 870 TactiCool with the ghost rings sights will throw slugs with accuracy. It's got a rail for a "whatever", too.

Would be sweet!

TedH · Post by **TedH** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 7:05 pm

380 acp for deep concealment.
45 acp for regular carry/home defense.
30-06 for hunting anything I will ever encounter in the field.
12 ga. for our feathered friends.

pokey · Post by **pokey** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 8:32 pm

30WCF

JReed · Post by **JReed** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 8:53 pm

Well I have a few for this one.
303brit
45-70
7.62x54R
45colt
12gauge

That about has me covered at the moment.

AJMD429 · Post by **AJMD429** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 9:14 pm

Hawkeye2 wrote:You or I might be able to but all the folks out there with megabucks of disposable income don't want to be seen shooting anything older than their cell phone.

There's lots of times all I really want to shoot IS my cell phone...

rjohns94 · Post by **rjohns94** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 9:24 pm

54 cal ball, or .54 cal bullet, 10 bore or 12 bore. Don't need any more than that.

Griff · Post by **Griff** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 9:57 pm

Not sure I could give up my 7mmRemMag. Other'n that'n, I'm golden.

Grizz · Post by **Grizz** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 10:00 pm

madman4570 wrote:Honestly------only need one-------------------------------12ga

I'm about there. How many can a guy pack when that's needed, like no roads any more, whatever.... Still need one of the little buddies.

Most of mine are more than 100 years old, which doesn't make them all that old, from my view point.

The 44 mag has lots of old ancestors, don't know if it could be in the inventory, but 45/70 pretty much covers that ground.

What are the ancestors of .357? Lots of similar calibers going back to front stuffers.

Yeah, old school is cool tools.

Grizz

guntar · Post by **guntar** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 10:49 pm

I could get by with everything over 100 years old. EXCEPT for optics!!! Today's optics are orders of magnitude better than in the past.

olyinaz · Post by **olyinaz** » Wed Mar 14, 2012 1:53 am

Jeez guys, not one for 6.5x55mm? For shame!

But yeah, with the exception of the flat shooting magnums and .22 cal bore burners every thing we needed was DONE 100 years ago.

A .257 Weatherby or .264 Win Mag still calls to me however.

Oly

ving-thorr · Post by **ving-thorr** » Wed Mar 14, 2012 2:48 am

I like old-timey guns, old-timey cartridges, and shootin' the bull with old-timey curmudgeons like yourselves. With the exception of service weapons, all my stuff is over 100, except for the .44 magnum, but that is usually shooting .44 specials.

12ga
22lr
7.62x54r
.30 WCF
.32 W.S.
.44 special
.380 acp
.45 acp
.30-06

Old Ironsights · Post by **Old Ironsights** » Wed Mar 14, 2012 8:21 am

How about 7.62x54R?

Malamute · Post by **Malamute** » Wed Mar 14, 2012 9:10 am

It wouldn't be hard to get by with 30-06, 30-30, 45-70, 375 H&H, 45 Colt, 44 spl, 38 spl, and a 22.

veeman · Post by **veeman** » Wed Mar 14, 2012 9:12 am

I spect I could survive just fine with my 44-40's.

Streetstar · Post by **Streetstar** » Wed Mar 14, 2012 9:23 am

Malamute wrote:It wouldn't be hard to get by with 30-06, 30-30, 45-70, 375 H&H, 45 Colt, 44 spl, 38 spl, and a 22.

I almost called you out on the 375 Holland & Holland, but i did a quick fact check --- 1912 ! I would have been suitably embarassed to say the least

(well, probably not

)

i wanted to mention the 300 H&H, but it came about in the 20's or 30's ----- a max load '06 with modern powder and 165's will nip the heels of the 'ol H&H shooting 180's though (of course, if we load the H&H with modern powder and 165's, the gap will widen a bit )

Blaine · Post by **Blaine** » Wed Mar 14, 2012 9:34 am

I can see it now...one hundred years from today:
Well, Men, I really like my particle shooter for half a mile or better but sometimes I just like to burn some old fashioned powder and keep it under a quarter mile

gak · Post by **gak** » Wed Mar 14, 2012 10:36 am

.38 Sp., .44 Special, .30WCF and .45-70 among what I have now. This sounds too easy for a lot of folks

what with all the gazillion .38s, .30-30s, '06s and .45ACPs, etc. More interesting if you extend it out (back) another 25 years--or more simply perhaps limted to 19th Century cartridges. I do not have but would get .44-40 and keep my .45-70, the latter shooting Leverlution. Hey, the OP said calibers, not specific (variants of) cartridges!

KWK · Post by **KWK** » Wed Mar 14, 2012 10:55 am

I get by with cartridges and guns designed in the 1800s.

GoatGuy · Post by **GoatGuy** » Wed Mar 14, 2012 12:21 pm

.22lr
.30-06 Gov't
.32 Winchester Special
.45 acp
.38 Special
12 Gauge

jlchucker · Post by **jlchucker** » Wed Mar 14, 2012 12:53 pm

El Chivo wrote:35 Rem is what? 1903?

It makes the list. It's older than 1912. Just think--in two more years, the start of World War I will be 100 years in the past.

Blaine · Post by **Blaine** » Wed Mar 14, 2012 1:41 pm

jlchucker wrote:
El Chivo wrote:35 Rem is what? 1903?
It makes the list. It's older than 1912. Just think--in two more years, the start of World War I will be 100 years in the past.

My military unit played for the last surviving Spanish American War vet...

My time's coming in nothing flat...

Rusty · Post by **Rusty** » Wed Mar 14, 2012 1:46 pm

I could get by just fine with my 12 ga. single shot H&R.

The .30-30 and the .22 are just a luxury.

preventec47 · Post by **preventec47** » Wed Mar 14, 2012 7:09 pm

At least the early version of the 8mm Mauser qualifies
and perhaps the later version too. I dont remember when
the bullets went from .318 to .323

Close to the 30-06 but it shoots bigger bullets better.

I bought and shoot a Mauser only because I had a chance
to buy a thousand cartridges for 12 cents each. I have really
grown to like it and the rifle was pretty cheap as well. It has
good heft and those extra long barrels really help the performance. Almost like cheating.

Canuck Bob · Post by **Canuck Bob** » Wed Mar 14, 2012 7:51 pm

I own one that isn't over the century mark. A 444 from the 60s, about 50 I guess.

22LR
32-20
32 Special
303 Brit
12 gauge
444

Lefty Dude · Post by **Lefty Dude** » Thu Mar 15, 2012 12:24 am

My 1894 30-40 Krag Rifle could serve me well, if I were restricted to only one Firearm. This Krag is a four digit serial number, 30" barrel.

I found at a local small gunshow this past Saturday, an almost like new Krag 1902 rear sight. This was the last variant of Krag sights developed before the 1903 Springfield 30-06. this sight will replace the original 94-96 sight on the ol'girl. BTW; the 94 sight is NFS, so do not even ask.