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This is not my problem, but was forwarded to me as an email by a friend. It happened to his cousin:
My cousin bought a new Ruger Bearcat 22, single action revolver. He loaded 6 rounds and went out to shoot it. He pulled the trigger and you can see the results in the attached picture.
I've never seen anything like this and my theory is the firing pin hit the brass and actually cut into the brass and when the round went off, there was a blow back that actually pushed the trigger back, which would cause the cylinder to spin and bring up the next round and because he was still pulling the trigger, the next round did the same thing. The gun fired 4 times and because shaved lead jammed the cylinder, the gun didn't fire all 6 rounds. He said he pulled the trigger and it sounded more like a 45 than a 22. My theory is that this happened so fast, he never knew it fired 4 times. It fired faster than the quick draw artist that fires his 6 shooter 3 times and you only hear one shot, but when they put in in super slow motion, you can see the gun fire three times.
Any ideas? Ammo problem? Pic shows a Federal headstamp on the split brass.
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lv2tinker wrote:Are sure that is not a 22 Magnum cylinder?
I don't own a Bearcat, but I don't think they make a Magnum cylinder for it. But I could be wrong.
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Ruger did make an early run of New Model Bearcats with both cylinders. Buy the way those cases are distorted I'd almost bet it's a magnum cylinder. If it's not, I'd be shipping that gun to Ruger for a complete check out and sending Federal a hot email with the pics.
Might tell the guns owners to contact Flatgate over on The Ruger Forum for positive ID on the cylinder. He collects Bearcats and has several sets of the convertible versions.
He might have some ideas on the problem as well.
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If it's a magnum cylinder, easy to check. Get a round of 22 mag and try to put in a chamber. If it slides in, you have a 22 mag. If not, you have a 22 LR. Case diameter on the 22 mag is slightly wider by design to prevent putting it in 22 LR chambers. You can, of course, put a 22 LR in a mag chamber, but blown cases are the usual result. Definitely worth checking.
Is that chamber at 9 o'clock got an oval shape, or is that a "trick" of the camera? Or is my eyesight just slipping?
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Does the Bearcat have the transfer bar action? If so, then something is broken. When the transfer bar system is working properly, the cylinder cannot advance until the trigger has been released. I know almost nothing about the Bearcat, but I have a couple of Ruger revolvers of other sizes, and I have played with them enough to seriously ask the question that I asked.
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I read a story once in one of my gun mags about a .357 Colt SAA that went full auto. It seems that in the early production .357 SAA's Colt used the same size firing pin hole for the .357's that they used on the .45's. The higher pressure of the .357 combined with the unsupported area of the primer allowed the pressure to pierce the primer, and send gasses back towards the hammer. Since the starteld shooter had a firm grip on the trigger, as the hammer reached full cock, it released and fired another round, setting the pierced primer chain of events in motion again.
Could we be looking at the rimfire equivalent chain of events?
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BTW, what ammo was he using? Hard to tell what the headstamp says. I would prefer to think the problem would be in the ammo and not in a Ruger. They normally have very good quality control...
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mikld wrote:BTW, what ammo was he using? Hard to tell what the headstamp says. I would prefer to think the problem would be in the ammo and not in a Ruger. They normally have very good quality control...
The headstamp is "F"=Federal.
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I was thinking ammo too. As a kid I fired some 22LR in a 22 Mag rifle just to see what it would do and all it did was over expand the cases. With him stating that it sounded like a 45 instead of a 22, I'm betting too much or the wrong powder. Federal has never been a favorite of mine when it comes to 22 ammo.
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