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FINALLY

after lo these many months I got into the woods with the new-to-me used glock that I had traded into. never shot a glock before, can you imagine I was excited? the hand gun to shame all hand guns. with many copies but without peer. I could barely contain myself while I set up a target. then it got kind of boring because I only have one magazine, which I filled with 165gr fn fmj white box target loads.

Here's the target. You saw this one after I whacked it with two round balls from a 12ga last time out.
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Well, there were two targets because kare-less kamper had left an aluminum can which I set up. I backed up about 1.5 car lengths and shot the can. A hit. First .40 s&w fired from first glock. A hit!

I chased it on the ground and then lined up on the gong. bang bang click. fte. FIRST fte. After thanking the Lord that I never carried it for real, I cleared and finished the mag. Reloaded and worked on the gong some more, reset the can and whacked it again. backed up half a car length and kept going. reloaded the mag, worst magazine to load of any I own, but got it stoked and went back to work. bang bang clik. SECOND fte.

I only had one mag with me so cannot check the obvious. why is the world famous for absolute reliability failing? I need to find some mags to start puzzling the glock out. I want to use it for the indoor gun, but it can't replace the xd45 in that role until it gets its head screwed on straight.

I put that away and switched the 9mm gold dots out of my xdsc, loaded blazer brass ball ammo and proceeded to dance with the gong. no failures. I shot it better than the glock. it feels better to me. and it has never sneezed, much less hiccupped.

and it "seemed" to hit the gong with about the same authority, even though I know that is impossible.

my xd stock just went up in value to me.

I would welcome diagnostic info from glock users. was wishing I had brought some 180s along to see if they might choke.
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There are many reasons folks off-load guns... but... only one main one! You may have expeienced it... To quote, "Bang, bang, click."

But, to be fair, many fte's are caused by "limp wristing", where the action isn't held firmly enough to cycle.
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I don't limp-wrist. I think the first thing to do is gather a bunch of magazines and see if they all get the same results. after that I'll look for a glock specialist.

By the way, my daughter in law is an extreme limp wrister, the 1911 recoils out of her support hand about halfway to her forehead, and I have a photo of the slide back in battery with the ejected shell about two inches from the breech. at the point of full recoil. She did that thru the entire mag with no failures, and she managed to put rounds on target too. I never would have believed it if I wasn't six feet away snapping pictures.
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Grizz wrote:I don't limp-wrist.
Oh, no. Nobody does...

I know it's hard to believe, but as one who has both suffered from it and helped others conquer it, limp wristing is a real phenomenon. You may have never experienced fte's with any handgun -- until you hit on one, usually a type new to you, and fte's will drive you crazy. Yes, it could be the gun, but #1 on the suspect list with fte's is, for me, the shooter.


I happen to think a well-tuned 1911 is about the most limp-wrist-proof semiauto made, and lightweight polymer-frame pistols the most prone.
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Try it with another magazine before your wrist draws more scorn than it can bear.
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I await Your verdict as I have yet to fire My new G22 (2 weeks) just patiently waiting for Me to take it out.
Is Your mag factory or after mkt. ? Maybe it just needs to be exercised but Who needs exercise when Ur life depends on it.
Hope U get it ironedout and don't give up on it.
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PriseDeFer wrote:Try it with another magazine before your wrist draws more scorn than it can bear.
Try some different ammos too. I shoot an M22 and it doesn't much care for certain ammo.
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thanks guys. need more mags and will take out different ammo as well.

lots of things to tweak. I only got it because I was buying the ammo and thought it would be fun to be able to shoot it!

as far as shooting it, the bullets went where they were pointed, the recoil was insignificant, the sights are nice and readable, the trigger is OK, just. nothing about it made me think "where have you been all my life?" and the xd session made me think "glad to know you."

regardless how the glock pans out I won't be replacing my working arms with glocks.

I am still interested in a .40 carbine for the house gun..
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Check your extractor as well. Too much carbon build up on the extractor can cause problems. Not saying Glocks are perfect but I trust my life to one every day (23-Compact version of yours). Also, there is a reason for training yourself to clear jams. It happens . . . and not just on the range. It is boring but if you have to, "create" a jam and practice clearing it. Do it on your XD's as well. Like I said, not fun but an important skill to learn.

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I got a used G22 and had one of the forum members who is a Glock Certified Armorer replace all the springs that are intended to wear out. I have shot it with 165 and 180 grain bullets from Winchester, Remington, Speer, Federal, MagTech, and about anything i can get to try. Not one failure yet. It is as reliable as a Ruger or a 1911. In fact, my 1911 does not like Speer Gold Dot, and that is the only thing to make my RIA 1911 ever fail. I hope you can find some other magazines and some other ammo to try, because I hate having a pistol that is unreliable and I am sure you do, too. I am going to order a second barrel for my G22 and try it with .357 Sig rounds. The .357 Sig sounds like it might be a decent round for a trail gun and the G22 is not very heavy. I hope you get yours to working as well as mine is working. Like your Springfield, PillHer's XD has never failed. I guess that any manufacturer can make a bad product.
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Is the one mag that you do have a Glock factory mag ?

Is it for a G22? Others will fit.

You might search on Glocktalk.com and see it someone there had the same problem.


You might also try only loading 5 or 6 rounds instead of a full mag.
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Rusty wrote:Is the one mag that you do have a Glock factory mag ?

Is it for a G22? Others will fit.

You might search on Glocktalk.com and see it someone there had the same problem.


You might also try only loading 5 or 6 rounds instead of a full mag.
it is a factory g22 mag and I did reduce the quantity and it didn't hiccup then, which is why I thought the mag could be in play.

I will read up on the other channel when I get time to pursue it. It's a novelty toy gun at this point.

@ piller

I think a spring change is a good idea. I'll check the ejector. gun doesn't appear to be overused or abused and it doesn't seem loose or goofy in any obvious way.

I like your .357 idea too, and like the idea of a different barrel, maybe a rifled one for shooting lead. I will learn something getting this one to run so it's not all lost time.

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Thanks for the detailed info. I was hoping you would be around. That's all very useful and easy stuff. I like having a plan, thanks again.

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