Nice article about seal being honored today with MOH

[2571]

http://www.navy.mil/ah_online/moh/byers ... n_20160229

[Blaine]

All those Operators from all services are supermen....Thanks for the post.

[Griff]

All those Operators from all services are supermen....Thanks for the post.

Aye.

[sore shoulder]

All I can think is I hope that Dr was worth a navy SEAL's life.

[Ysabel Kid]

From Monday's Patriot Post...

Navy SEAL to Receive Medal of Honor Today

Navy SEAL Edward Byers wears a St. Michael the Archangel patch on his back. Before going into battle, the Roman Catholic always prays to the angel that leads God's army in the book of Revelation for protection, drawing strength to be away from his wife and daughter. It was a prayer he most likely prayed before he ran through a darkened Afghan doorway where he knew a host of Taliban lay waiting. It was the night of Dec. 8, 2012, and SEAL Team Six had hiked four hours to get to this one-room hut, a place the U.S. military believed the Taliban was keeping captured U.S. citizen Dr. Dilip Joseph. Moments before, a Taliban guard discovered the rescue party as it was 25 meters away. As Petty Officer 1st Class Nicholas Checque dived through the six layers of blankets that made up the hut's door, he was cut down by AK-47 fire. Byers followed, shot a man aiming a rifle at him, and tackled another man who was scrambling for a weapon in the corner. After realizing that he did not have Joseph, Byers fought the man, then jumped on top of Joseph, using his body as a shield while pinning a Taliban fighter to the wall by one hand. The rescue was successful.

It is for this action that the White House is awarding Byers the Medal of Honor at a ceremony today. He is the first member of the Naval Special Warfare Development Group to receive the nation's highest medal for valor, and the first member of the Navy still living to receive the commendation since the Vietnam War. And as a member of the Special Forces, it's difficult for him. "I've lived my entire career a very private life," Byers said. "We don't talk about what we do, and this honor carries with it some obligations that I need to carry out. You know, you follow those through. But, I plan to continue doing my job as normal and to continue being a SEAL. It's something I love and grew up wanting to be." That is the true mark of a hero: a willingness to pay the ultimate sacrifice, but the humility to do it again and again.

[2571]

All I can think is I hope that Dr was worth a navy SEAL's life.

Certainly a cheap assessment of a genuine hero's actions. Why do you think he volunteered for Seal training?

Shame on you.

[BigSky56]

I have questions about a dogooder going into a combat zone, then GI's losing hide to get them out, just maybe they dont belong there and if they are that committed to dogooding live & die with their decision and dont burden anyone else. danny

[sore shoulder]

All I can think is I hope that Dr was worth a navy SEAL's life.

Certainly a cheap assessment of a genuine hero's actions. Why do you think he volunteered for Seal training?

Shame on you.

Cheap assessment? One of our finest died saving him, I think it's a valid question. But let's just clear the air first. Have you ever volunteered to serve in the military?

[Griff]

Welcome to the Leverguns.Com General Discussions Forum. This is a high-class place so act respectable. We discuss most anything here other than politics... politely.

The Dr.'s motivations for being where he was, or whether a forum member volunteered for military service only serve to detract from this Chief's actions when action was needed.

Quite a few folks served with integrity and honor when conscripted into military service... so volunteering's not necessarily a standard by which military service should be measured. But even that is not the focus on this thread.

[sore shoulder]

Welcome to the Leverguns.Com General Discussions Forum. This is a high-class place so act respectable. We discuss most anything here other than politics... politely.

The Dr.'s motivations for being where he was, or whether a forum member volunteered for military service only serve to detract from this Chief's actions when action was needed.

Quite a few folks served with integrity and honor when conscripted into military service... so volunteering's not necessarily a standard by which military service should be measured. But even that is not the focus on this thread.

If you're going to unofficially moderate, you probably shouldn't go on to continue the unauthorized tangent with your own opinion on said tangent.

[Blaine]

Ahem
http://weaponsman.com/?p=29893

[JohndeFresno]

Welcome to the Leverguns.Com General Discussions Forum. This is a high-class place so act respectable. We discuss most anything here other than politics... politely.

The Dr.'s motivations for being where he was, or whether a forum member volunteered for military service only serve to detract from this Chief's actions when action was needed.

Quite a few folks served with integrity and honor when conscripted into military service... so volunteering's not necessarily a standard by which military service should be measured. But even that is not the focus on this thread.

+1 - read immediately above this line.
Let's not degrade a SEAL's sacrifice or honor - or any service member - by petty trolling.

[sore shoulder]

I don't see anyone trolling. I see a lot of other things though, hypocrisy and self righteousness among them. Some people can't handle the truth.

[JohndeFresno]

Okay, I guess I'm in for it and will just have to accept the target on my back.

One definition of trolling (as it relates to the Internet) is:
Being a [troublemaker] on the internet because you can. Typically unleashing one or more cynical or sarcastic remarks on an innocent by-stander, because it's the internet and, hey, you can.

Although nobody here was flamed, it is just my view that when there is a rare, positive post honoring of a military hero by the current Administration, it is a pleasant and uplifting break to the constant negative garbage that is happening in our country, in Washington D.C., in the media, and even in the ridiculous, childish Primary debates.

Who knows what the doctor who was saved was doing? Was he actually working with the CIA? Was he trying to change the world by helping the injured in the name of a country who cares? None of us here know. But he was an American, after all.

I'm reminded of a relative who, when told about a good deed that I witnessed, would always immediately come back with something like, "Well, you don't see that much anymore. Man is so wicked...." instead of just nodding her head and smiling. She has gone to her reward, now. But even though she made it clear to everyone around her that she was a Christian, she never seemed to be able to share the joy that comes with that belief. Just condemnation of others. An old saying in my circles - "That person has been saying that they are in The Way so long that they are now just in the way."

OK. Right or wrong, that is how I see it. I honor the servicemen and women and their families, and am glad when they are recognized for their sacrifices. Off the soapbox now.

[sore shoulder]

Okay, I guess I'm in for it and will just have to accept the target on my back.

One definition of trolling (as it relates to the Internet) is:
Being a [troublemaker] on the internet because you can. Typically unleashing one or more cynical or sarcastic remarks on an innocent by-stander, because it's the internet and, hey, you can.

Although nobody here was flamed, it is just my view that when there is a rare, positive post honoring of a military hero by the current Administration, it is a pleasant and uplifting break to the constant negative garbage that is happening in our country, in Washington D.C., in the media, and even in the ridiculous, childish Primary debates.

Who knows what the doctor who was saved was doing? Was he actually working with the CIA? Was he trying to change the world by helping the injured in the name of a country who cares? None of us here know.

I'm reminded of a relative who, when told about a good deed that I witnessed, immediately always has to come back with something like, "Well, you don't see that much anymore. Man is so wicked...." instead of just nodding her head and smiling.

OK. Right or wrong, that is how I see it. Off the soapbox now.

Then regarding the rarity of posts regarding a military hero I'm sure you recall that not too long ago I posted about the funeral of a MOH recipient. What I didn't mention is I was one of the of the military Honor Guard escort for his casket to it's final resting place. My respect and honor for MOH recipients dead or alive is intact, as is my integrity.

As to the esteemed Dr whom a Navy SEAL died to rescue, it's a good thing he wouldn't stoop so low as to profit from the experience. Well, except for the book he co-authored and is available on Amazon. http://www.amazon.ca/Kidnapped-Taliban- ... 1491547235 A book wherein he describes his sympathy for his captors, the same vile animals who killed a brother in arms engaged in rescuing the Dr. I think my question regarding the worth of the Dr compared to the worth of a Navy SEAL who died for him is valid.

As to the rest of the veiled accusations, don't be coy, state your case like a man.

[JohndeFresno]

Thanks for the meaningful reply, Sore Shoulder.

I was not being coy, I was trying to be polite, as I prefer to be. When I'm face to face, I guess I am a little more rude at times; but this is the Internet. Your negative comment, to me, sucked, and I thought that it was woefully inappropriate for the tone of this thread. That means trolling. Is that clear enough?

However, I had no idea about the book and so on. That certainly changes things. Now my view of your comment has changed - that unsucks your comment!

Cheers, brother Levergunner.

[sore shoulder]

Thanks for the meaningful reply, Sore Shoulder.

I was not being coy, I was trying to be polite, as I prefer to be. Your negative comment, to me, sucked, and I thought that it was woefully inappropriate for the tone of this thread. That means trolling. Is that clear enough?

However, I had no idea about the book and so on. That certainly changes things. Now my view of your comment has changed - that unsucks your comment!

Cheers, brother Levergunner.

Cheers brother