Possible use for a Ruger Blackhawk 30 carbine?
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Possible use for a Ruger Blackhawk 30 carbine?
Too loud!! WAY TOO LOUD! Would a 30 Carbine clean up to a 32-20? Now that's an idea that appeals to me..and would be a good buddy for my Browning 53. Just thinkin'.
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Re: Possible use for a Ruger Blackhawk 30 carbine?
The guys over at rugerforum.com say you can shoot .32-20 ammo in it without any modifications.
I believe this only works with new model Rugers though. The three screw guns wont chamber due to headspace issues by design of the cylinder. Loaded round overall length must suit the cylinder length.
.30 carbine ammo is factory loaded with slow powders for use in rifles. If loaded with faster powders more suitable for short barrels, the boom and flash is no worse than the .327 Fed. Or .32 mag.
You can do a search and read a lot about it at rugerforum.com .
Several of the guys here are members there also.
I believe this only works with new model Rugers though. The three screw guns wont chamber due to headspace issues by design of the cylinder. Loaded round overall length must suit the cylinder length.
.30 carbine ammo is factory loaded with slow powders for use in rifles. If loaded with faster powders more suitable for short barrels, the boom and flash is no worse than the .327 Fed. Or .32 mag.
You can do a search and read a lot about it at rugerforum.com .
Several of the guys here are members there also.
Re: Possible use for a Ruger Blackhawk 30 carbine?
As a trade-in.
I traded mine for a .357/9mm convertible.
Better!
I traded mine for a .357/9mm convertible.
Better!
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Re: Possible use for a Ruger Blackhawk 30 carbine?
For a reloader a 30 carbine would make an absolutely wonderful 32/20 equivalent. Same case capacity (yeah, maybe slightly more) and stronger cases. That Blackhawk is only loud and obnoxious if you insist on using factory or factory-equivalent loads. Put a 32/20 load into that case and you have a 32/20.
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Re: Possible use for a Ruger Blackhawk 30 carbine?
Great info, guys. Thanks.. I may have to try to find one.
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Re: Possible use for a Ruger Blackhawk 30 carbine?
After I opened the throats up, mine was a real shooter. I put 6 for 6 on a paper plate at 200 yards with it.
But about that time I finally found a Single Six .32 H&R, so I felt I no longer needed the .30 Carbine. A friend warned me about getting rid of it, saying that paper plates would haunt me. I had the gun converted to 500 Linebaugh by Dave Clements, it's easily my favorite handgun. But he was right, that group still haunts me.
Prior to that, I asked Mr. Clements about making it a .32-20, he said it wouldn't clean up the chamber. Apparently some smiths will do it, some won't.
But about that time I finally found a Single Six .32 H&R, so I felt I no longer needed the .30 Carbine. A friend warned me about getting rid of it, saying that paper plates would haunt me. I had the gun converted to 500 Linebaugh by Dave Clements, it's easily my favorite handgun. But he was right, that group still haunts me.
Prior to that, I asked Mr. Clements about making it a .32-20, he said it wouldn't clean up the chamber. Apparently some smiths will do it, some won't.
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Re: Possible use for a Ruger Blackhawk 30 carbine?
I think Paco pulled his cylinder and sent gun back ruger for new cylinder. Then rebore
new cylinder to 32-20..I think??????
new cylinder to 32-20..I think??????
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Re: Possible use for a Ruger Blackhawk 30 carbine?
Yep.earlmck wrote:For a reloader a 30 carbine would make an absolutely wonderful 32/20 equivalent. Same case capacity (yeah, maybe slightly more) and stronger cases. That Blackhawk is only loud and obnoxious if you insist on using factory or factory-equivalent loads. Put a 32/20 load into that case and you have a 32/20.
They also have some 'conversions' on the market that have cylinders for both 32-20 and 30 Carbine, I believe. I know they do for 32-20 and 32 H&R Mag.
Here's a good thread on the topic from the CastBoolits forum... > Ruger-BH-30-to-32-20
Another article just on the 32-20 here - http://www.sixguns.com/tests/tt3220.htm
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Re: Possible use for a Ruger Blackhawk 30 carbine?
I had one about 40 years ago. It was deafening. I wish I knew then what I know now. Mine also had really tight chambers that wouldn't even chamber all of a lot of G.I. ammo I bought. Reading this now makes me want one all over again.
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Re: Possible use for a Ruger Blackhawk 30 carbine?
Put a 21" barrel on mine and it was still TOO LOUD!!! Traded the factory barrel to a gunsmith for a 357 cylinder, added a custom 357 barrel and it's much better!
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Re: Possible use for a Ruger Blackhawk 30 carbine?
You can use 32-20 brass, but I believe you have to shorten it just a bit. Then load like a 32-20. Solves any headspace issues. I then resize in a 32-20 die just enough to hold a bullet and enter the chamber.
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As a hammer?
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Re: Possible use for a Ruger Blackhawk 30 carbine?
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Re: Possible use for a Ruger Blackhawk 30 carbine?
If I had one, I might make an extra cylinder specifically for 32-20, but you certainly could just load 'handgun' ammo for it, and enjoy it for what it is - a 30 ('32') caliber revolver of mid-power that can go from mild to wild. Some loads are barely more than 22 WMR (but cheaper if you use cast bullets), and others rival the hottest 357 Mag loads.
Probably one of the STRONGEST single-action revolvers there is, if you look at cylinder-wall thickness versus the chambering.
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Re: Possible use for a Ruger Blackhawk 30 carbine?
Why fool with using 32-20 brass in a 30 carbine? Makes no sense unless you have a million 32-20's and need to get rid of the ammo.
I have an Old Model and I load the 30 carbine brass with 32-20 bullets sized down to .309. 5 grains of Unique behind a 115 gr. cast will keep you happy all day. 3 grains of Bullseye works great shooting in the pond at cans. A mess of 4227 or 2400 does wonders out to 200+ meters with a hard cast or the standard 110 jacketed.
No, it ain't no small game or big game cartridge as loaded by the factory. You gotta load for it to make it versatile as a small game cartridge or plinker. Bill Ruger brought it out in the sixties as many WW2 vets liked the M-1 Carbine and ammo was cheap.----6
I have an Old Model and I load the 30 carbine brass with 32-20 bullets sized down to .309. 5 grains of Unique behind a 115 gr. cast will keep you happy all day. 3 grains of Bullseye works great shooting in the pond at cans. A mess of 4227 or 2400 does wonders out to 200+ meters with a hard cast or the standard 110 jacketed.
No, it ain't no small game or big game cartridge as loaded by the factory. You gotta load for it to make it versatile as a small game cartridge or plinker. Bill Ruger brought it out in the sixties as many WW2 vets liked the M-1 Carbine and ammo was cheap.----6
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Re: Possible use for a Ruger Blackhawk 30 carbine?
Well... thanks Cap't Obvious. I figured this thread for OTHER uses of the specified revolver!Sixgun wrote:Why fool with using 32-20 brass in a 30 carbine? Makes no sense unless you have a million 32-20's and need to get rid of the ammo.
I have an Old Model and I load the 30 carbine brass with 32-20 bullets sized down to .309. 5 grains of Unique behind a 115 gr. cast will keep you happy all day. 3 grains of Bullseye works great shooting in the pond at cans. A mess of 4227 or 2400 does wonders out to 200+ meters with a hard cast or the standard 110 jacketed.
No, it ain't no small game or big game cartridge as loaded by the factory. You gotta load for it to make it versatile as a small game cartridge or plinker. Bill Ruger brought it out in the sixties as many WW2 vets liked the M-1 Carbine and ammo was cheap.----6
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Re: Possible use for a Ruger Blackhawk 30 carbine?
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Beings that you are very nice to me I'll see to it you get it.....remember now....be nice!
Griff wrote: Well... thanks Cap't Obvious. I figured this thread for OTHER uses of the specified revolver!
ANNNNNDDDD, I might add.....here in the East we have a gun for each use. Down there in Texas, you guys use old 1842 Springfields for everything including holding up your tomato plants.
I can see me now.....blasting cinder blocks with that Great Western 38 S&W....the 65 year old derringer that still looks new........she's a beauty.......be nice Dennis.
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Re: Possible use for a Ruger Blackhawk 30 carbine?
Regarding '30' caliber revolvers....note the post by Pete44ru regarding a 32-20 Blackhawk for sale....http://www.levergunscommunity.com/viewt ... =2&t=66753
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