Tarnish removal and prevention
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Tarnish removal and prevention
I have a Parker 51 fountain pen that has a 1/10th 18K gold filled cap and clip. Pen was made in 1944.
Anybody got any ideas on what to use to remove the tarnish? One thing though, the cap cannot be soaked due to the inner cap and steel retaining spring inside it.
Joe
The gold has tarnished (you can see it in the pic above) and that has happened only since I moved to IL back in 99. Before that it never tarnished. I've had the pen since 1968 and really would like to get rid of the tarnish and keep it off.Anybody got any ideas on what to use to remove the tarnish? One thing though, the cap cannot be soaked due to the inner cap and steel retaining spring inside it.
Joe
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Re: Tarnish removal and prevention
Gold does not tarnish- EVER! Me thinks it might be brass or the gold plating has worn off.
Greatest thing for polishing is FLITZ. works fast, very safe, even for food grade cutlery.
It's available in squeeze tubes to quarts. FLITZ leaves no residue and helps fend off oxidation.
After you get it polished up, give it a shot of clear krylon spray paint or even better a clear lacquer. This will wear over time but keep the pen shiny longer.
Greatest thing for polishing is FLITZ. works fast, very safe, even for food grade cutlery.
It's available in squeeze tubes to quarts. FLITZ leaves no residue and helps fend off oxidation.
After you get it polished up, give it a shot of clear krylon spray paint or even better a clear lacquer. This will wear over time but keep the pen shiny longer.
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Re: Tarnish removal and prevention
I collect fountain pens, mostly Watermans.
The firm mentioned, http://www.pendemonium.com/ is worth an email, certainly for a Parker 51.
All the best, Mark
The firm mentioned, http://www.pendemonium.com/ is worth an email, certainly for a Parker 51.
All the best, Mark
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Gold doesn't tarnish. Honest.
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Re: Tarnish removal and prevention
I know gold doesn't tarnish, but there it is.
I used to collect fountain pens, still got a bunch of them. But I've lost track of the support groups as my collecting was pre-internet.
Joe
I used to collect fountain pens, still got a bunch of them. But I've lost track of the support groups as my collecting was pre-internet.
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Griff is on the ball, and to the point. It's why we call him His Nibs....Griff wrote:Fountain Pen Collector Forumsis your friend:
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Re: Tarnish removal and prevention
Then you know its not goldJ Miller wrote:I know gold doesn't tarnish, but there it is.
I used to collect fountain pens, still got a bunch of them. But I've lost track of the support groups as my collecting was pre-internet.
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What I know is that it is 1/10 18K gold filled over a base metal. Not solid gold. And that prior to moving to the mid west, it never tarnished. That is what I know.harry wrote:Then you know its not goldJ Miller wrote:I know gold doesn't tarnish, but there it is.
I used to collect fountain pens, still got a bunch of them. But I've lost track of the support groups as my collecting was pre-internet.
Joe
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I've been a member of so many forums, shooting, automotive, fountain pen, over the years that I have forgotten many of them. I won't go join a forum just to ask one question.
I was just hoping that with the combined knowledge on this forum I could get some useful information. I guess I was wrong.
Joe
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Re: Tarnish removal and prevention
"I was just hoping that with the combined knowledge on this forum I could get some useful information. I guess I was wrong."
I realise that things can be frustrating at times and I often feel that I live on the dark side of the moon.
Give it time, it's a Parker 51 and I know you care about it. You get attached to your pens.
Mark
I realise that things can be frustrating at times and I often feel that I live on the dark side of the moon.
Give it time, it's a Parker 51 and I know you care about it. You get attached to your pens.
Mark
Re: Tarnish removal and prevention
Into each life some rain must fall.....Hey, I hear MarlinOwners knows more about pens than leverguns.....J Miller wrote:What I know is that it is 1/10 18K gold filled over a base metal. Not solid gold. And that prior to moving to the mid west, it never tarnished. That is what I know.harry wrote:Then you know its not goldJ Miller wrote:I know gold doesn't tarnish, but there it is.
I used to collect fountain pens, still got a bunch of them. But I've lost track of the support groups as my collecting was pre-internet.
Joe
Sigh ...
I've been a member of so many forums, shooting, automotive, fountain pen, over the years that I have forgotten many of them. I won't go join a forum just to ask one question.
I was just hoping that with the combined knowledge on this forum I could get some useful information. I guess I was wrong.
Joe
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"Hey, I hear MarlinOwners knows more about pens than leverguns..."
You have a long memory...., not such a bad thing, so do I.
All the best,Mark
You have a long memory...., not such a bad thing, so do I.
All the best,Mark
Re: Tarnish removal and prevention
Good for you. You one of the pen experts, were ya?mark wrote:"Hey, I hear MarlinOwners knows more about pens than leverguns..."
You have a long memory...., not such a bad thing, so do I.
All the best,Mark
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No, not an expert on anything. My wife will confirm that.
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Re: Tarnish removal and prevention
I'm thinking, which sometimes works, is yes your pen is plated AND has a lacquer finish. The lacquer is failing causing the discoloration.
Can you feel where the 2 colors meet?
Can you feel where the 2 colors meet?
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Well people have tried to help you, by telling you gold does not tarnish. So you need something to clean tarnish off of brass or copper. It may have been gold plated at one time but that plating has been removed and the base metal is corroding.J Miller wrote:What I know is that it is 1/10 18K gold filled over a base metal. Not solid gold. And that prior to moving to the mid west, it never tarnished. That is what I know.harry wrote:Then you know its not goldJ Miller wrote:I know gold doesn't tarnish, but there it is.
I used to collect fountain pens, still got a bunch of them. But I've lost track of the support groups as my collecting was pre-internet.
Joe
Sigh ...
I've been a member of so many forums, shooting, automotive, fountain pen, over the years that I have forgotten many of them. I won't go join a forum just to ask one question.
I was just hoping that with the combined knowledge on this forum I could get some useful information. I guess I was wrong.
Joe
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Re: Tarnish removal and prevention
Gunny,GunnyMack wrote:I'm thinking, which sometimes works, is yes your pen is plated AND has a lacquer finish. The lacquer is failing causing the discoloration.
Can you feel where the 2 colors meet?
There is a difference between gold plated and gold filled. It once was explained to me but I have lost that bit of knowledge.
I have a few other Parker gold filled pens and I "don't think" they had lacquered finishes on the caps.
No, I can't see or feel where the colors meet. It's very smooth.
Joe
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Not corroding, tarnishing. If you're gonna put me down then at least use correct terminology.harry wrote:Well people have tried to help you, by telling you gold does not tarnish. So you need something to clean tarnish off of brass or copper. It may have been gold plated at one time but that plating has been removed and the base metal is corroding.J Miller wrote:What I know is that it is 1/10 18K gold filled over a base metal. Not solid gold. And that prior to moving to the mid west, it never tarnished. That is what I know.harry wrote:Then you know its not goldJ Miller wrote:I know gold doesn't tarnish, but there it is.
I used to collect fountain pens, still got a bunch of them. But I've lost track of the support groups as my collecting was pre-internet.
Joe
Sigh ...
I've been a member of so many forums, shooting, automotive, fountain pen, over the years that I have forgotten many of them. I won't go join a forum just to ask one question.
I was just hoping that with the combined knowledge on this forum I could get some useful information. I guess I was wrong.
Joe
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Well Joe my thoughts aren't much help then. I tried... Hope you get it figured out!
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Re: Tarnish removal and prevention
Gold-filling jewelry is jewelry containing pure gold equal to 1/20th of its entire weight. Gold is often mixed with copper or brass. Gold-plated jewelry also combines gold with copper, brass or other base metals, however, only a very tiny amount of gold is used. The gold or gold-colored metal used in gold-plated jewelry equals seven-millionths of an inch Gold plating involves pressing a small amount of karat gold over the base metal through an electrochemical process. In some cases, the metal used in gold plating is not real gold, but only provides a gold color Caring for Gold Filled: Caring for Gold Filled items is as easy as caring for any gold jewelry. Simply keep away from chemicals, clean regularly with mildly sudsy water, rinse well and pat dry with a non-scratching cloth. Polish gently with a jewelry polishing cloth.
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I've been a member of so many forums, shooting, automotive, fountain pen, over the years that I have forgotten many of them. I won't go join a forum just to ask one question.
I was just hoping that with the combined knowledge on this forum I could get some useful information. I guess I was wrong.
Joe[/quote]
Well people have tried to help you, by telling you gold does not tarnish. So you need something to clean tarnish off of brass or copper. It may have been gold plated at one time but that plating has been removed and the base metal is corroding.[/quote]
Not corroding, tarnishing. If you're gonna put me down then at least use correct terminology.
Joe[/quote]
Sorry Joe, The brass that is under the gold plating on your pen is tarnishing. You happy now.
I was just hoping that with the combined knowledge on this forum I could get some useful information. I guess I was wrong.
Joe[/quote]
Well people have tried to help you, by telling you gold does not tarnish. So you need something to clean tarnish off of brass or copper. It may have been gold plated at one time but that plating has been removed and the base metal is corroding.[/quote]
Not corroding, tarnishing. If you're gonna put me down then at least use correct terminology.
Joe[/quote]
Sorry Joe, The brass that is under the gold plating on your pen is tarnishing. You happy now.
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