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OT Question for the truckers

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I know that some of the regular posters on here are long haul truckers, so I have a question for you all(or anyone,really).

I received an email from my mother, who always passes on the chain emails like all mothers do. This one had some stupid story about a trucker who ran off the road. I won't bore you with the details(like you're not bored already), but the email included some amazing pictures. I looked at them and can't believe the truck ended up where it was. Anybody seen these pictures before and know the real story? Pics below:
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I don't understand how the truck was able to make it up that steep of an incline?
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Anybody have an idea?

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It looks, in the first pic, that the front wheel is not as far forward as it should be. That is very common among vehicles that accomplish what this one has done.

It could very well be legit'.
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I saw them a while back. The driver supposedly did that on purpose trying to turn around... or at least that's the story that came with the photos when I got them.

I don't buy it. I can see the driver falling asleep, or getting run off the road.. losing his brakes.. but not driving up that hill on purpose.

IF the driver did it on purpose, they were either drunk or not the proper driver/owner.

ETA: I found I still had the copy I got, came with this text:
"According to the person who sent this, the driver has only been in the U.S. a few months. He had missed his turn by Billings MT. And figured he could go over the hill and continue on the road. Apparently he didn't know there were rail tracks on top of the grade which doesn't matter, he'd be stuck anyhow..... The truck owner figures he had to hit the angle at over 55 miles an hour in order to make the top. If you look close at some of the pictures you will see that it is only when the trailer pinched the rear tires of the truck that the truck stopped ..."
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4-500 horsepower will allow you to climb grades that steep with relative ease, even loaded. But, that particular transition from flat to vertical is rough on suspension components and other parts. There are limitations for entrance and departure angles for such transitions. It appears he exceeded both! :twisted:

My understanding of the story is that the driver is a recent immigrant to Canada (Winnipeg Express is based in Winnipege, MB) and he thought the road he needed was on the other side of that embankment, just didn't realize there were train tracks between him and the roadway. One of the problems of many mapping programs and GPS. One version I saw had an official estimating his speed at 55mph when he hit the embankment... given the tire tracks behind and signs of impact on the front end, I'd guess he was empty, the ground still fairly frozen, empty or fairly lightly loaded.

If it had been my truck... I'd have been very angry:
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'cause he'd have seriously hurt my fenders! Not to mention my new hood:
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:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

He's probably looking for new employment. Any takers?

Ok, now I'll go back to discussing leverguns. :roll:
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The front axle and front wheels look a little bit back from normal due to the hood being slightly raised, at least that's how I see it. Im sure there was a lot of stress on that trucks front end, and the frame, when at 55 MPH it hit the bottom of that incline at such a steep incline. The tractor will need a tremendous amount of work, perhaps a whole new frame, and the floor in that trailer is probably shot. That might well have been the drivers last act for Winnepeg Motor Express
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Wondered how long it would be before the new KW pics showed up!

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I can't tell you how that truck came to be in the position in the pictures, however, having driven trains for 30 years, I can definitely tell you that all kinds of strange things happen on railroad tracks.
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Sorry people, I had one picture that I didn't upload. Here it is.
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cas: That's the story I got too.

Griff: I was hoping you would chime in. I too noticed the Canadian markings on the trailer. When I saw the pictures, I thought that he must have been fully loaded and the inertia from the weight in the back is what pushed the truck up that far. I defer to your version as I have never driven a truck that size before. You learn something new every day! One last question. How in the world did they get the tow truck up there and backed up to the stranded truck! It looks like the tow truck's tires are riding on the rails. is that some kind of special tow truck?

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horsesoldier03 wrote:Wondered how long it would be before the new KW pics showed up!
NICE. Keep the dirty side down. That is if it has one!
There's a couple of issues they have to take care of, but... it's gotten rave reviews from the guys in the shop and quite a few customers. The body shop has been keeping it "out back" and outta sight to keep "lookeeloos" away. A couple of places didn't get taped right, a couple of sags in the paint on the back of the sleeper, and finish the wiring of the new ICC lights in the dropped visor are about it. Probably be finished when I get back from delivering the Pete to it's buyer. I'll post some before, during and after pics when I get the lettering done and get ready to hit the road. Here's another that shows the lowered front end: (2" drop) Still gotta decide what I'm going to do about the exhaust, it seems a little too tall and a little "skinny"!
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jfwlb wrote:One last question. How in the world did they get the tow truck up there and backed up to the stranded truck! It looks like the tow truck's tires are riding on the rails. is that some kind of special tow truck?
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I don't think that a "specialized tow truck", but do know the railroads have tow equipment. I'm not sure, but... with the right guidance he could have gotten one set up on the rail, but... IMO that will reduce his ability to lift or stabilize the tractor while the other tow trucks below pull the trailer off. At least that what I'd assume they'd do. It would have been a ticklish recovery, as it looks like the landing gear were torn off the trailer and they'll have to support the front end of the trailer to keep it from falling in an uncontrolled manner... once they lift it far enough to diconnect it. If it was loaded they'd unload the trailer before they attempt any movement of the trailer. But... once empty and uncoupled, they could just drag it off the truck, they couldn't have hurt it much more.
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Post by Jeeps »

If he had 40 tons of cargo in that trailer then it pushed him up that embankment for sure.

Inertia is a heck of a thing.

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I've climbed some steep stuff while in 6WD but nothin' quite like that.
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Jeeps,
Those cement trucks are one devil of a lick in a train/truck collision. You definitely know you've hit something.
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ole pizen slinger wrote:Jeeps,
Those cement trucks are one devil of a lick in a train/truck collision. You definitely know you've hit something.
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Gosh, that sounds like the voice of experience... wanna share? :P
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Post by runfiverun »

he got that up there with momentum
been driving in the oil patch for a few years and see some steep hills with underpowered trucks and the only way to get them up
an incline like that is with velocity.
i'll bet [real money too] he don't drive anymore.
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Griff wrote:4-500 horsepower will allow you to climb grades that steep with relative ease, even loaded. But, that particular transition from flat to vertical is rough on suspension components and other parts. There are limitations for entrance and departure angles for such transitions. It appears he exceeded both! :twisted:

My understanding of the story is that the driver is a recent immigrant to Canada (Winnipeg Express is based in Winnipege, MB) and he thought the road he needed was on the other side of that embankment, just didn't realize there were train tracks between him and the roadway. One of the problems of many mapping programs and GPS. One version I saw had an official estimating his speed at 55mph when he hit the embankment... given the tire tracks behind and signs of impact on the front end, I'd guess he was empty, the ground still fairly frozen, empty or fairly lightly loaded.

If it had been my truck... I'd have been very angry:
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'cause he'd have seriously hurt my fenders! Not to mention my new hood:
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:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


He's probably looking for new employment. Any takers?

Ok, now I'll go back to discussing leverguns. :roll:

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Yep, I'd hate to have to be makin that phone call.


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Ok everyone else is posting their truck so..... I'll post my daily driver. John
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