Win vs Rem vs Starline brass?
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Win vs Rem vs Starline brass?
Helping out a buddy with a 44 mag project who is interested to know how these brands stack up. I heard starline is the thickest( I use starline in 357 but not sure how it compares to the others), or are they close enough a load on one should still equal a load in another. Thanks for any opinions fellas.
Re: Win vs Rem vs Starline brass?
better throw hornady into the mix as well
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I think if you start with the low end of loading data you should be fine. You are correct that there is slightly less case capacity if the branch is thicker though.
I think if you start with the low end of loading data you should be fine. You are correct that there is slightly less case capacity if the branch is thicker though.
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Re: Win vs Rem vs Starline brass?
In certain cartridges that "Starline is the thickest" might be true, but across the board? I'm not so sure. I use a lot of 45 Colt and don't find a hill of beans difference across nearly all the manufacturers. My advice to anyone loading with new (different), components is to start in the middle of the data and work up until you find the best accuracy...
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Potaytows, patahtows...
All good brass.
I just recently loaded and fired several hundred 44 magnum rounds out of Starline and Magtech brass. Don't know who makes the Magtech.
Only issue I had was 2 (out of 250) cases of the Starline had dings on the mouth that made me work a little bit.
All good brass.
I just recently loaded and fired several hundred 44 magnum rounds out of Starline and Magtech brass. Don't know who makes the Magtech.
Only issue I had was 2 (out of 250) cases of the Starline had dings on the mouth that made me work a little bit.
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Re: Win vs Rem vs Starline brass?
I'm with Griff, I don't think your going to see any significant difference for most pistol cartridges between manufacturers. There is one way to check water capacity that is pretty easy to do if you have a digital scale.
1. Weigh an empty case and write it down.
2. Zero the scale with the case on it.
3. Fill the case with water until you get a level meniscus on top. Tap the cartridge on a hard surface a few times to release any air bubbles which often happens.
4. Top the case off with water again to a level meniscus.
5. Weigh the case with water and write it down.
6. Subtract the empty case weight from the filled case weight.
7. That is your capacity of water in that case.
You might want to weigh a few empty cases as well just to see how consistent the numbers are ahead of time. I don't think any of the brands listed are going to be
world class in consistency. If only Norma or Lapua or Peterson made pistol brass, that would be something different altogether. Probably not needed until you get up into rifle pressure pistol cartridges like the 454 Casull , 460 or 500 S&W.
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1. Weigh an empty case and write it down.
2. Zero the scale with the case on it.
3. Fill the case with water until you get a level meniscus on top. Tap the cartridge on a hard surface a few times to release any air bubbles which often happens.
4. Top the case off with water again to a level meniscus.
5. Weigh the case with water and write it down.
6. Subtract the empty case weight from the filled case weight.
7. That is your capacity of water in that case.
You might want to weigh a few empty cases as well just to see how consistent the numbers are ahead of time. I don't think any of the brands listed are going to be
world class in consistency. If only Norma or Lapua or Peterson made pistol brass, that would be something different altogether. Probably not needed until you get up into rifle pressure pistol cartridges like the 454 Casull , 460 or 500 S&W.
Regards my friends,
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Re: Win vs Rem vs Starline brass?
All my pistol and revolver reloading is with mixed brass.
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Been using Starline for .405 WCF and .458 .45-90 for some time with no problems.
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Re: Win vs Rem vs Starline brass?
Starline is my favorite in handgun brass. When I can’t get It, I look to WINCHESTER.
But, I do just mix them when I load.
I weigh every round after loaded. I’ve found brands can be as much as a couple grains diff in weight.
But, especially in these days. I’ll take whichever I can find.
But, I do just mix them when I load.
I weigh every round after loaded. I’ve found brands can be as much as a couple grains diff in weight.
But, especially in these days. I’ll take whichever I can find.
Re: Win vs Rem vs Starline brass?
I don't think there's any doubt that John Linebaugh is an authority on high pressures in handguns and therefore brass as well. In his writings he considers Starline and Federal to be the strongest brass on the market. Winchester is a bit down his list and Remington is below that. There's unquestionably a difference between the brass requirements of low pressure loads and those running ultra-high but that's his stated assessment of brass and what he recommends for his customers.