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Purchased a Charter Arms Bulldog XL in 45 Long Colt. It has a 2.5" barrel and weighs about 23oz.
I fired Hornady 185gr ammo through it, recoil quite manageable, and it proved to be very accurate at 20 paces.
GOing to try some Underwood 135gr ammo in it as well.

Although recoil was manageable, (not worse and maybe better than some 357's I have shot) I don't think 250+ gr loads would be this gun's nich.
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Have another Charter Arms in 32H&R with a 3" barrel and the snubbie 45 out shot it although have not put many rounds through the 32.

I know this model available in 44 special, and almost bought one, but held out for the colt!
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I didn't know you could get the Bulldog in .45 long Colt, a lot of gun in a small package.. 8)
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Personally, I think your handicapping yourself by going to a light bullet….mass is what knocks things down…..it’s why the British used a 200 gr in their 38S&W cartridge and why our military stayed with the heavy bullets in the 45-70 to stop charging horses.

Load a 250 gr SWC to 650 fps. The dude on the receiving end with think he was just hit by a meteorite instead of being stung by a wasp.

But, that’s your business. As Elmer Keith said, “heavy bullets always work.

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Sixgun wrote: Mon Apr 10, 2023 4:12 pm Personally, I think your handicapping yourself by going to a light bullet….mass is what knocks things down…..it’s why the British used a 200 gr in their 38S&W cartridge and why our military stayed with the heavy bullets in the 45-70 to stop charging horses.

Load a 250 gr SWC to 650 fps. The dude on the receiving end with think he was just hit by a meteorite instead of being stung by a wasp.

But, that’s your business. As Elmer Keith said, “heavy bullets always work.

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I agree. I’m only shooting 250 to 270 gr bullets and you don’t have to push them hard. Cowboy Action loads would be perfect.
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I always like to try different stuff so I’d probably shoot the light stuff like you are just for the heck of it anyway. I didn’t even know they made a 135 grain 45 Colt bullet…!!

Probably in the long run, though I would wind up doing what others here have said, and use a big heavy bullet going slowly, just partly because that’s the thing that gun can do that smaller diameter cartridges just can’t do.

I also didn’t know that they made the Charter Arms in 45 Colt; that almost sounds like the perfect carry gun…!!!
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Yea,,,unless you can put the hydraulic power of a 7mm Remington mag in a handgun, I’ll stay with the big fat slow bullet that penetrates..

Some years back some big name company was making hollow point bullets for the 25 auto…..geeze, I’m not ballistician but I know enough that penetration is the only thing going for a hardball 25 auto.
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I believe the Charter Arms is 45 Colt has a larger frame than the Bulldog in 44 special. Still a handy big bore I’m sure.
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Load a 255 gr Hornady Cowboy bullet over 6 gr Unique and you should be right in the sweet spot
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I think the 41 Mag is the same frame as the 45 Colt -- here's mine
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This thing can run some pretty impressive loads but it's a handful. More sedate are fun and accurate. Mine shoots high with .41 mag ammo, so I developed a load with 135gr Cutting Edge that shot point of aim. I seldom carry it but when I do, it's loaded with three 135gr and 2 ea 250gr Grizzly WFNGCs. The 135s chrono 1,220 fps +- and the 250s 1,150 fps +-
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Yes Paul, I believe the 41, 45 Colt, 45 auto Colt, and the Professional are on the XL frame. The XL frame isn't all that big either, maybe K frame size. I have an Undercover which is a bit smaller than my J frame. Watched my dad drop a pigeon sitting on top of an old style tobacco barn once. A truly amazing shot!
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Big, heavy, and slow is what has worked since the beginning of gunpowder in cannon.
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I really like mt CA Southpaw. But it’s only .38 spl. I put my bid in with them for lefty Bulldog.
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Nice congrats, i had a Charter Bull dog in 44 SP many moons ago and loved the dern thing wish i still had it. :)
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Love my little Bulldog as well. This being Texas, I keep a snake load up first, then four 240-grain Keiths.
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A short stumpy .45 "COLT" like that would be a hoot to shoot with 40 grs of black powder at night!


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J Miller wrote: Sun Apr 16, 2023 7:09 am A short stumpy .45 "COLT" like that would be a hoot to shoot with 40 grs of black powder at night!


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Scott Tschirhart wrote: Sun Apr 16, 2023 7:11 am
J Miller wrote: Sun Apr 16, 2023 7:09 am A short stumpy .45 "COLT" like that would be a hoot to shoot with 40 grs of black powder at night!


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I’m really having to repress my jealousy over that slip gun though.
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I also agree that the key for self defense rounds is slowing down velocity, not reducing bullet weight. Self defense rounds should allow the shooter to recover from recoil quickly, but not at the sacrifice of bullet diameter, or weight. If it was a plinking gun, or a Bullseye match cartridge, then by all means load light bullets at slow speeds. But for defense I keep my .45's with 250 gr. bullets.
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