Just recieved this from a friend . OT ???

[Mutt]

A friend sent me this tonight, and he doesn't even own a gun . But the author of this seems to have real knowledge about it .
Gun Law Update by Alan Korwin,
Author Gun Laws of America Jan. 5, 2008

Gun-ban list proposed

Slipping below the radar (or under the short-term memory cap), the Democrats
have already leaked a gun-ban list, even un der the Bush administration when
they knew full well it had no chance of passage (HR 1022, 110th Congress).
It serves as a framework for the new list the Brady's plan to introduce
shortly.

I have an outline of the Brady's current plans and targets of opportunity,
It's horrific. They're going after the courts, regulatory agencies, firearms
dealers and statutes in an all out effort to restrict we the people. They've
made little mention of criminals.

Now more than ever, attention to the entire Bill of Rights is critical. Gun
bans will impact our freedoms under search and seizure, due process,
confiscated property, states' rights, free speech, right to assemble and
more, in addition to the Second Amendment.

The Democrats current gun-ban-list proposal (final list will be worse):

Rifles (or copies or duplicates):

M1 Carbine, Sturm Ruger Mini-14, AR-15, Bushmaster XM15, Armalite M15,
AR-10, Thompson 1927, Thompson M1; AK, AKM, AKS, AK-47, AK-74, ARM, MAK90,
NHM 90, NHM 91, SA 85, SA 93, VEPR; Olympic Arms PCR; AR70, Calico Liberty,
Dragunov SVD =2 0 Sniper Rifle or Dragunov SVU, Fabrique National FN/FAL, FN/LAR,

or FNC, Hi-Point Carbine, HK-91, HK-93, HK-94, HK-PSG-1, Thompson 1927
Commando, Kel-Tec Sub Rifle; Saiga, SAR-8, SAR-4800, SKS with detachable
magazine, SLG 95, SLR
95 or 96, Steyr AU, Tavor, Uzi, Galil and Uzi Sporter, Galil Sporter, or
Galil Sniper Rifle ( Galatz ).

Pistols (or co pies or duplicates):

Calico M-110, MAC-10, MAC-11, or MPA3, Olympic Arms OA, TEC-9, TEC-DC9,
TEC-22 Scorpion, or AB-10, Uzi.

Shotguns (or copies or duplicates):

Armscor 30 BG, SPAS 12 or LAW 12, Striker 12, Streetsweeper.

Catch-all category (for anything missed or new designs):

A semiautomatic rifle that accepts a detachable magazine and has (i) a
folding or telescoping stock, (ii) a threaded barrel, (iii) a pistol grip
(which includes ANYTHING that can serve as a grip, see below), (iv) a
forward grip; or a barrel shroud.

Any semiautomatic rifle with a fixed magazine that can accept more than 10
rounds (except tubular magazine .22 rimfire rifles).

A semiautomatic pistol that has the ability to accept a detachable maga zine,

and has (i) a second pistol grip, (ii) a threaded barrel, (iii) a barrel
shroud or (iv) can accept a detachable magazine outside of the pistol grip,
and (v) a semiautomatic pistol with a fixed magazine that can accept more
than 10 rounds.

A semiautomatic shotgun with (i) a folding or telescoping stock, (ii) a
pistol grip (see definition below), (iii) the ability to accept a detachable

magazine or a fixed magazine capacity of more than 5 rounds, and (iv) a
shotgun with a revolving cylinder.

Frames or receivers for the above are included, along with conversion kits.

Attorney General gets carte blanche to ban guns at will:

Under the prop osal, the U.S. Attorney General can add any "semiautomatic
rifle or shotgun originally designed for military or law enforcement use, or

a firearm based on the design of such a firearm, that is not particularly
suitable for sporting purposes, as determined by the Attorney General." Note

that Obama's pick for this office (Eric Holder, confirmation hearing set for

Jan. 15) wrote a brief in the Heller case supporting the position that you
have no right to have a working firearm in your own home.

In making this determination, the bill says, "there shall be a rebuttable
presumption that a firearm procured for use by the United States military or

any federal law enforcement agency is not particularly suitable for sporting

purposes, and a firearm shall not be determined to be particularly suitable
for sporting purposes solely because the firearm is suitable for use in a
sporting event."

In plain English this means that ANY firearm ever obtained by federal
officers or the military is not suitable for the public.

The last part is particularly clever, stating that a firearm doesn't have a
sporting purpose just because it can be used for sporting purpose -- is that

devious or what? And of course, "sporting purpose" is a rights infringement
with no constitutional or historical support whatsoever, invented by
domestic enemies of the right to keep and bear arms to further their cause
of disarming the innocent.

Respectfully submitted, Alan Korwin, Author Gun Laws of America
Thanks for reading ............Mutt

[Ysabel Kid]

Like all of Obama's promises, his pledge to support and respect the Second Amendment is worth just as much as he is.

[AJMD429]

Thankfully, we won't need to do anything ourselves, because the ever-vigilant NRA and our fellow gun owners will object to the number of guns listed, and insist that some of them be taken off the list, at least for now.

It is also best to hold off writing letters and making phone calls because the optimum timing is to do so at the last minute, when the legislators are hastily trying to get it through, and after some of them have made committments to support it.

Finally, we have the ace up our sleeve in that we've a top-notch crew of Republican leaders who will draw the line at ANY infringement of the Second Amendment, if it interferes with the convenient enjoyment of hunting or target shooting with "legitimate sporting firearms."

[/cynicism off]

Sorry, but after spending two hours last night writing to legislators and posting on various gun-related websites, the feeling I get is that 99% or more of gun owners just don't want to be bothered by all this (some site administrators on other forums have said that, too), and many of the others just want to wait for the jack-boots to come to their door and have a confrontation. My next day to work on legislative activism will be Wednesday, and hopefully I'll be back to my cheery little optimistic self by then...

[dbateman]

don't let them take your guns away

[papasan]

Like all of Obama's promises, his pledge to support and respect the Second Amendment is worth just as much as he is.

You can count on it.
Just like when he made the comment
there will be no lobbyists appointed
in my administration. What is the count 7. 8?

papasan

[major]

That is almost the exact ban that happened in england watch short news clip below. If you worry like I do about our freedom to own firearms here in USA take a minute and watch the video of what is happening in England to the people who have already lost there rights.




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTq2NEUlhDE

News clip from England


Please pass this along it is a wakeup call to those who wonder what might happen to us.