The Patriot **OT**

[Blaine]

The Fourth is here again and I know you Riflemen will think of it, but I doubt America, as a whole,will remember the horror that the ForeFathers went through to get us here. I have a whole lot of riding and fishing planned this three day weekend, but I believe I'll watch The Patriot this evening, and then maybe say a little prayer of thanks to all those guys and gals that bought Liberty for us.

Hey, Guys....be safe. Too much beer and anything fun is not a real good idea

[rjohns94]

have a good weekend. be safe.

[DBW]

I'm heading home to Canada for the 4th. I'll flying Old Glory and Gadsden while somberly reflecting on the loss of Liberty. I simply can't get onto the spirit of celebration as I feel that the Founders are looking down on us with sorrow.

[Old Ironsights]

The Patriot is one DVD that I don't have. Used to, but it dissappeared and I haven't replaced it.

I'm gonna be smelting lead and casting bullets over the weekend.

If I lived on a farm I'd probably have the BP Ball Mill running too...

Can't think of anything much more "patriotic" (Unless I get Detailed to stand in Uniform & play TAPS again...)

[Rusty]

Just remember as you watch the movie that it closely depicts the life of Francis Marion, Known as the Swamp Fox. It has been thought out many times that Marion might have well been the factor that cost the Brits the war as they had to fight on two fronts at the same time.

[Grizz]

Happy Independence Day to all, let's be safe and enjoy it..

[Lobo]

To all Patriots......Salute!!

[gunslinger598]

I just watched it about two weeks ago

[don Tomás]

[JReed]

I may have to do the same. Great movie. My big plans are to blow stuff up and relax around the house.

[Ysabel Kid]

I fear that if Obama has his way, we won't be fighting red coats...

We watched "The Patriot" this past Sunday. Great movie!!!

Happy Independence Day to you all!!!

[stew71]

Yup...ditto all. Have a good one. The wife and I will be smoking baby back ribs tomorrow, popping caps at the range on Saturday, and fishing on Sunday. Woo hooo!!!!

[AJMD429]

I'm heading home to Canada for the 4th. I'll flying Old Glory and Gadsden while somberly reflecting on the loss of Liberty. I simply can't get onto the spirit of celebration as I feel that the Founders are looking down on us with sorrow.

Agreed, but the family will likely sit down to The Patriot or some similar movie just as a way to relax and remind ourselves of reality. Most holidays these days just emphasize how superficial our society has gotten.

[FWiedner]

Even our forefathers allowed tyranny to reign over them for a period until they had enough and decided to stand up.

Most folks don't recognize that the British oppressions (TAXES) that led to the war and the war itself lasted from 1764 until 1781. 17 Years.

I don't think it would take that long this time, because the government is a shadow, a shell. It doesn't really exist. It maintains power by indoctinating our children to be mindlessly obedient and forcing the People to live in fear of what MIGHT happen. The key is to demonstrate to the military and police powers that we are not to ruled over and cowed by brute force. Once they understand that we are not afraid of them, and that we can fight, they will collapse.

[PaulB]

I'll be going to the parade - carrying openly.

I did it last year too.

I think it would be nice to carry a sign, something like "Your freedom was not won with firecrackers. Carry your weapon with pride this day."

[jeepnik]

The Patriot is a good movie. Too bad it stars and Aussie

I just finished watching Shane, again. Interestingly, it takes place around the 4th of July. In fact, it's at a celebration of the homesteaders that the green eyed monster first starts to rise in Van Heflin. And for the first time I noticed it had "Walter" Jack Palance in the credits. Never new he went by Walter. Jack suits him much better.

You fella's be safe and have a wonderful 4th.

[GonnePhishin]

DBW Said:I simply can't get onto the spirit of celebration as I feel that the Founders are looking down on us with sorrow.

+1

[El Chivo]

Sorry guys this weekend it's "Gettysburg", since it took place on this weekend.

On June 6 I watched "Saving Private Ryan", December 7 Tora Tora Tora, June 1, Midway, etc.

I love "The Patriot" though, great stuff, especially the shootout in the woods.

The Stamp Act was pretty bad:

http://www.ushistory.org/declaration/re ... ampact.htm


But the Tea Act was actually a repeal of most tax on tea. Only a 3 pence/lb duty remained. This allowed the British tea to compete fairly with tea brought in by American smugglers and it was they who spearheaded the unrest over it.

[Brant]

Good movie.
Here's to a great nation, with great problems! But I am not moving anywhere else!
B.

[SmokeEater2]

A bit of Independence day trivia posted elsewhere:



Have you ever wondered what happened to the 56 men

who signed the Declaration of Independence?

Five signers were captured by the British as traitors,

and tortured before they died.

Twelve had their homes ransacked and burned.

Two lost their sons serving in the Revolutionary Army;

another had two sons captured.

Nine of the 56 fought and died from wounds or

hardships of the Revolutionary War.

They signed and they pledged their lives, their fortunes,

and their sacred honor.

What kind of men were they?

Twenty-four were lawyers and jurists.

Eleven were merchants,

nine were farmers and large plantation owners;

men of means, well educated,

but they signed the Declaration of Independence

knowing full well that the penalty would be death if

they were captured.

Carter Braxton of Virginia, a wealthy planter and

trader, saw his ships swept from the seas by the

British Navy. He sold his home and properties to

pay his debts, and died in rags.

Thomas McKeam was so hounded by the British

that he was forced to move his family almost constantly.

He served in the Congress without pay, and his family

was kept in hiding. His possessions were taken from him,

and poverty was his reward.

Vandals or soldiers looted the properties of Dillery, Hall, Clymer,

Walton, Gwinnett, Heyward, Ruttledge, and Middleton.

At the battle of Yorktown, Thomas Nelson, Jr., noted that

the British General Cornwallis had taken over the Nelson

home for his headquarters. He quietly urged General

George Washington to open fire. The home was destroyed,

and Nelson died bankrupt.

Francis Lewis had his home and properties destroyed.

The enemy jailed his wife, and she died within a few months.

John Hart was driven from his wife's bedside as she was dying.

Their 13 children fled for their lives. His fields and his gristmill

were laid to waste. For more than a year he lived in forests

and caves, returning home to find his wife dead and his

children vanished.

So, take a few minutes while enjoying your 4th of July holiday and

silently thank these patriots. It's not much to ask for the price they paid.

Remember: freedom is never free!

I hope you will show your support by sending this to as many

people as you can, please. It's time we get the word out that patriotism

is NOT a sin, and the Fourth of July has more to it than beer,

picnics, and baseball games.

[cjm135]

I really like that movie. The scene where they are at the Spansh Mission was filmed at Cypress Gardens in SC a few mile from the house. The mission is like 1/4 scale but when you see the scene it looks much larger. It's like when you watch a ball game and the catcher looks huge compared to the pitcher. If you're interested there is a good book about the Swamp Fox,
The Life of Francis Marion
The True Story of the Swamp Fox
by William Gilmore Simms

It's the original 1844 text.

[sharps1863]

Watched it last week. When I 1st say the movie I wanted to kill that British Dragoon Colonel so bad. It's been along time and another war since I have had those feels come out. I guess it doesn't matter how old you get, That Uncle Sam training never goes away and the memories still haunt you. My wife tells me it just a movie that dont happen in real life, I just look at her and smile. "She's never seen the elephant." From all the Patriots Young and Old, We Never forget what our freedom has cost. To all the ones that have never been there and done that, including the leaders our great nation. Just remember we picked up the check, so you didnt have too. Have another great Independance day.

[Birdman]

I was fixin to watch Bucket list tonight, But maybe I should go with The Patriot.