Receiver sights for the Winchester 94's, 5D or Fool Proof?

Lastmohecken · Post by **Lastmohecken** » Sun Jan 13, 2008 12:53 pm

I have at least two 94 trappers I need to get receiver sights for, and I am trying to make up my mind which way to go. I have owned Williams Fool Proofs before, but I can't remember if I ever tried the 5D. I think I like the FP better but of course I like the price of the 5D better.

What does every one else like best?

GANJIRO · Post by **GANJIRO** » Sun Jan 13, 2008 1:22 pm

If you're a target shooter or shoot more than one load through same gun then the FP would be a better choice I would imagine. I use my guns for hunting, and I only shoot one load 99% of the time so the 5D works out fine for me, I have them on 2 of my leverguns.

TedH · Post by **TedH** » Sun Jan 13, 2008 1:46 pm

I agree. Unless you will need to adjust often, the 5D is hard to beat.

J Miller · Post by **J Miller** » Sun Jan 13, 2008 2:09 pm

FoolProof.

I have a couple of them right now, one on my 94 Trapper 30-30 and one extra.
I prefer them over the 5D simply because the adjustments are far more precise and easier to make. No guessing, no try it and move it and try it again.
And the most important part is the adjustments are repeatable.
If you move the FP 10 clicks for a different load, and want to return it to where you had it before, simply turn it 10 clicks back. That simple.
No so with the 5D.

I'd rather pay money for an FP than get a 5d free.

Joe

L.F.Combs · Post by **L.F.Combs** » Sun Jan 13, 2008 3:01 pm

I like all three mentioned so far. I think like the others it depends on what kind of job you are looking to handle. I have an FP on all of mine.

86er · Post by **86er** » Sun Jan 13, 2008 3:41 pm

I broke a 5D and stripped screws on the second before putting the FP on my '94. No problems with the FP - more durable from the get-go.

canonsix · Post by **canonsix** » Sun Jan 13, 2008 3:44 pm

+ a bunch for the 5d Doug

RSY · Post by **RSY** » Sun Jan 13, 2008 4:35 pm

A little trivia related to price:

"5D" refers to the original price...five dimes.

Not a bad deal for 4 bits.

That said, I'm a FoolProof fan. The real question is why not a FoolProof???

scott

Terry Murbach · Post by **Terry Murbach** » Sun Jan 13, 2008 4:38 pm

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"5D" refers to the original price...five dimes.

HMMMM...I ALWAYS THOUGHT IT REFERRED TO FIVE DOLLARS IN EWE ESS OF AA GREENBACKS.

Pete44ru · Post by **Pete44ru** » Sun Jan 13, 2008 8:31 pm

Yer kerrect, Terry - 5D = $5 (once upon a time)

5D. I have both - and since I never readjust the FP's, I consider the extra $$$$ as wasted.

BenT · Post by **BenT** » Sun Jan 13, 2008 9:54 pm

On my trapper I use the WGRS sight with ghost ring and it works great. I think it only runs about $12 for the base and $5 for the ghost ring.

Lastmohecken · Post by **Lastmohecken** » Sun Jan 13, 2008 11:29 pm

I have a couple of the WGRS sights, one on a crossbow and one on my Winchester 9422mag with the big game aperature. Right now I have a top eject Win. Trapper that needs a rear sight, and also a Win. Angle eject 357 trapper that need a better sight.

I have also got a model 39M that needs a sight, as I can't see that Marbles open sight clearly with the white diamond in the bright sun.

I guess I just need to decide.

RSY · Post by **RSY** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 12:35 am

Terry Murbach wrote:HMMMM...I ALWAYS THOUGHT IT REFERRED TO FIVE DOLLARS IN EWE ESS OF AA GREENBACKS.

But, of course.

Momentary brainfart on my part.

Lo siento mucho.

Lastmohecken · Post by **Lastmohecken** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 12:57 am

Well, I went ahead and ordered some sights from Midway. I sorta went half and half. I puchased a 5D for both of my Trappers, a FP for my model 39M and a FP for a 71 Winchester which I will either replace the Lyman on the 71 or have it put on my Browning 95.

Griff · Post by **Griff** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 1:52 am

Why, you give me no "none of the above" option.

dr walker · Post by **dr walker** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 9:33 am

I have some guns with target apertures, but on hunting guns I like the 5d.

J Miller · Post by **J Miller** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 9:49 am

Lastmohecken wrote:I have a couple of the WGRS sights, one on a crossbow and one on my Winchester 9422mag with the big game aperature. Right now I have a top eject Win. Trapper that needs a rear sight, and also a Win. Angle eject 357 trapper that need a better sight.

I have also got a model 39M that needs a sight, as I can't see that Marbles open sight clearly with the white diamond in the bright sun.

I guess I just need to decide.

The little two notch square disc in the Marbles sight is reversible. I have mine flipped so the plain black side faces me.

dr walker,
You can put target and hunting apertures on all the Williams sights. The FP and 5D take the same ones.

Joe

KirkD · Post by **KirkD** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 10:01 am

Deleted (I got mixed up on my sights ..... happens sometimes to old geezers!

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J Miller · Post by **J Miller** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 10:19 am

Kirk,

Are you sure you're not talking about a Lyman sight? The Williams sights don't have a side plate. The Lyman does though.

Joe

Pete44ru · Post by **Pete44ru** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 11:24 am

The 5D doesn't have a "vertical adjustment spring", either - no springs of any kind, for that matter, since both windage & elevation adjustmets are via grub screws which are loosened to slide the peep and then tightened to cinch the peep in the new position/place.

jbm1968 · Post by **jbm1968** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 11:37 am

Foolproof, and I have proved it!

Great sight and easy to use.

KirkD · Post by **KirkD** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 1:51 pm

J Miller wrote:Kirk,

Are you sure you're not talking about a Lyman sight? The Williams sights don't have a side plate. The Lyman does though.

Joe

Whooops!

I was talking about the Lyman receiver sight 66A.

Disregard everything I said about the 5D earlier (and I'll delete it). It sounds like I should be getting a Foolproof.

txpete · Post by **txpete** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 7:18 pm

for me the FP is just a better sight.I have one on my 375 bb and never a problem with it.I am alway messing around with different loads cast and jacketed and it is just a better sight for making adjustments.

I have a 5D in my old win 94 30/30.it works great.99% of the time when I hunt with it its the same load every year.150 gr rem cl and AA2520.I haven't had to adjust the sights in years

.

imho if your a handloader and trying different powder,bullets,primers ect go with the FP.

pete

Post by **Hobie** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 7:38 pm

We should get a vote for each gun on which we've mounted a FP vs a 5D. That would be all but two for me and those two are one Lyman 38 repro and a Lyman 66... I believe that's 6 (maybe 8 or 9 guns

) on which I've mounted a Williams FP despite the "extra" cost.

buckeyeshooter · Post by **buckeyeshooter** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 8:36 pm

I have a lyman 66, 4 foolproofs and 3 5D's. Oh-- and 2 levers with scopes.

Bigahh · Post by **Bigahh** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 8:57 pm

You guys have talked me into trying a Williams FP instead of the xs ghost ring. Its on order! Jeff Quinn has an article on the Williams FP Firesight over at Gunblast.com

http://www.gunblast.com/Williams_Firesight.htm

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