New 94/22 from Italy?

[Grizzly Adams]

Anyone seen this? Made by Chaparral Arms and imported by Marstar.
http://www.marstar.ca/gf-Chaparral/W9422-Rif.shtm

[Pete44ru]

Maybe one of our members from the Great White North will chime in - I think it's the one that's been imported into Canada, and unavailable in the US (till now ? ), for several years.

Chiappa may be an Italian company, but IIRC Marstar is Chinese.

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[J Miller]

Hmmmm, I wonder if any of the local yocals might have one?

Joe

[damienph]

Not a Replica, but a Tribute... I need to remember that phrase. I would give it a try if we could get them for $325.

[gamekeeper]

I have seen pictures of a Chinese (Norinco) 9422 with a pistol grip but never heard of an Italian 9422, I prefer the look of the front sight to the ramp sight on my Winchester.

[Killer Kanuck]

FYI - I haven't heard good things about them. Pretty sloppy assembly and fitting. I was considering getting one when they first arrived, but after reading some reviews and seeing "in hand" pictures, I'm very glad I waited.

[Rusty]

If it's a Chinese company I doubt we'll ever see them here until the U.S. Govt clears up it's issues with Chinese arms. That's why there aren't any more Norinco products around any more as I understand it.

[DPris]

Chinese guns are being imported regularly.
Look at the '87 & '97 repros for the CAS market.
The Stevens 350 pump shotgun is Chinese.
And so on.
Denis

[damienph]

Chinese guns are being imported regularly.
Look at the '87 & '97 repros for the CAS market.
The Stevens 350 pump shotgun is Chinese.
And so on.
Denis

Then is it a problem with the Norinco brand name? Because the Norinco 1911s and their copy of the CZ 22 rifles don't seem to be available anymore, but are in Canada.

[gak]

I'm no 9422 expert, but does that lever shape look right?

[Pete44ru]

Nope - it looks like it has the Hershey Squirts........

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[J Miller]

I'm no 9422 expert, but does that lever shape look right?

Both the lever and the upper rear of the receiver are shaped wrong.

Joe

[DPris]

Yes, it was Norinco.
Other Chinese makers were not affected.
Denis

[t.r.]

I heard that Henry's popular 22 levergun is actually an ERMA design from 40 years ago.

TR

[kaschi]

Whoever the engineer was who designed the shape of the lever must have done it in the last 5 minutes of 3rd shift! LOL

[gak]

Why wouldn't you just copy a real 9422 verbatim? You'd think it'd be easier. Just a thought. Reminds me of the cheap replica (non-firing) 92s with the rear barrel band half way up the forearm (that are otherwise pretty close--from a distance anyway) Why not just do it right?

[JB]

Maybe one of our members from the Great White North will chime in - I think it's the one that's been imported into Canada, and unavailable in the US (till now ? ), for several years.

Chiappa may be an Italian company, but IIRC Marstar is Chinese.

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I may be wrong, but I always thought Marstar was just a Canadian importer. They've brought in guns from China and various other countries for years.

[DPris]

Marstar is a Canadian importer, not a Chinese company.
Denis

[AJMD429]

Whoever the engineer was who designed the shape of the lever must have done it in the last 5 minutes of 3rd shift! LOL

Well, there NEEDS to be a lever somewhere between the too-small ones that are 'original/factory' and squeeze your fingers if they're fat and/or you're wearing gloves, and the 'John Wayne' ones that are basically hula-hoops and not practical unless you have an arm/hand like a polar-bear. The bigger fingers are up front, so the 'taper' seems to be sensible.

I realize it isn't "authentic" though, and that the gun may or may not be decent otherwise...

[Ji in Hawaii]

I'm no 9422 expert, but does that lever shape look right?

The lever definitely looks a tad funky.

[J Miller]

Personally I like the idea. If it is a 9422 design all the way through internally the the few external differences do not matter.
My wife and I have decided we need another 22 rifle and that one looks pretty good to me.

Joe

[Doc.Holliday]

Good Afternoon Folks;
I spring summer and fall up here in the Great White and am not too far From Marstar. I buy the odd bit of ammo and a few M1 carbines from them over the years.
They are a total Canadian company and import products from where they can. They are the Chapparal importer and Dealer in Ontario. I have seen and handled this Italian made 22 at their retail outlet. The lever looks like a Winchester shape and the fit and finish are darn nice; at least in the example they handed me.
If you go on the Chapparal web site from Italy, the pictures there, are more what it really looks like. The cut and paste job they did for their ad ahs distorted the image.
There are the same reproductions up here for sale from Chiappa, Henry, Rossi, and Chapparal as down south.
In my opinion for what its worth for fit and finish of Metal and Wood its Chiappa, Chapparal, Henry and then Rossi.
For warranty its Henry and none of the rest. Pray you get a good one.
I just picked up a Rossi Ranch Hand up here in 45 colt. These fellas are real hard to get up here as they are classified as a rifle NOT a handgun and they are sold out as fast as lightning.
Now if we could get that other Italian company called Beretta to make a lever then we'd have beauty with reliability.
Just my 2 cents .
Doc.

[Lawyer Daggit]

Its not the Chinese 9422 clone as they are available in Australia and all have a tang safety.

[Hagler]

Gents,

Their main page clearly says "WE ARE CANADIAN!":

http://www.marstar.ca/index.shtm

The Norinco JW-21, a "copy" of the 9422, $198.00:

http://www.marstar.ca/gf-norinco/22-JW-21.shtm



The Chaparral Arms W9422, $325.00:

http://www.marstar.ca/gf-Chaparral/W9422-Rif.shtm



Shawn