50 AK in trailboss
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foxtrapper
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50 AK in trailboss
So can it be used in the 50ak. I checked their website and there is no trailboss listed for the cartridge. Fill the case to bottom of bullet gtg?
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Rimfire McNutjob
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Re: 50 AK in trailboss
Probably fine. What bullet and OAL are you using? Barrel at 22"?
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Buck Elliott
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Re: 50 AK in trailboss
Trailboss is a relatively fast, low-density, and fairly expensive powder, for moderate pressures, at maximum loading density, particularly in the .45 Colt (and other CAS cartridges) to achieve uniform, moderate velocity, with no danger of double-charging the big cases..
And we want to use it in the .50AK, for what...?
I know it has been used in .45-70 loads, where it gives OK results, but it seems like goin' the long way around the barn, to me.. But then, I'm the guy who loads .45 Colt with H-4198, for reasons to do with the locking system of the Uberti Model '73 Winchester clone...
And we want to use it in the .50AK, for what...?
I know it has been used in .45-70 loads, where it gives OK results, but it seems like goin' the long way around the barn, to me.. But then, I'm the guy who loads .45 Colt with H-4198, for reasons to do with the locking system of the Uberti Model '73 Winchester clone...
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Rimfire McNutjob
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Re: 50 AK in trailboss
Well, if you top it off with the 450 grain Barnes FNSP and load to 2.30" OAL, I show you'll have room for 18.4 grains of TrailBoss for a 100% capacity load. This is estimated in QuickLoad to peak at 26.8kpsi and leave a 22" barrel at 1150fps. Brass length was 2.10" having 97 grains of water capacity.
Probably a wee bit expensive for a plinking load.
Probably cheaper with a 300 grain FNSP. Using the same case and OAL as above, I show 22.5 grains of TrailBoss gives 100% case fill with a peak pressure of 25kpsi and leaving the 22" barrel at 1500fps.
I'm not sure I have a lead 300 grain bullet in the 50-110 style handy for simulation.
YMMV.
As Buck says, what's the point here? Maybe BP velocities with a full case to avoid fillers or such?
Probably a wee bit expensive for a plinking load.
Probably cheaper with a 300 grain FNSP. Using the same case and OAL as above, I show 22.5 grains of TrailBoss gives 100% case fill with a peak pressure of 25kpsi and leaving the 22" barrel at 1500fps.
I'm not sure I have a lead 300 grain bullet in the 50-110 style handy for simulation.
YMMV.
As Buck says, what's the point here? Maybe BP velocities with a full case to avoid fillers or such?
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Re: 50 AK in trailboss
Their rule of thumb is start with 70% of available space and go up from there. I think my best 30-30 load was about 90% of capacity, at any rate it was just under the published max.
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Re: 50 AK in trailboss
Thanks for the replies 
I bought the trailboss mainly for loading the 50 cal handgun rounds -510 gnr ,500 Linebaugh . I was looking for lighter loads using cast to punch paper and make the range sessions last a little longer . That got me thinking about the 50ak I have in a Marlin 1895 with a braked 18 1/2" barrel. Lower pressure using the same 375 gr mountain mold as the 510 gnr would make me able to shoot without the "Past" recoil pad 
. Again this is just for range fun. I have the 50ak hunt ready with Benchmark and 525 cast performance slugs.
I bought the trailboss mainly for loading the 50 cal handgun rounds -510 gnr ,500 Linebaugh . I was looking for lighter loads using cast to punch paper and make the range sessions last a little longer . That got me thinking about the 50ak I have in a Marlin 1895 with a braked 18 1/2" barrel. Lower pressure using the same 375 gr mountain mold as the 510 gnr would make me able to shoot without the "Past" recoil pad . Again this is just for range fun. I have the 50ak hunt ready with Benchmark and 525 cast performance slugs.