Revolver question
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- El Chivo
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Revolver question
I was test firing a couple of revolvers today. Ruger SP101 3" barrel vs. S&W Model 10 with 4" barrel. Both in 38 special.
The Ruger was loud, but not too bad, but what surprised me was the S&W seemed to have more flash and bang - it was annoying... but I expected it to be the other way around.
One of the clerks surmised it might be due to more powder burning in the 4".
The Ruger's barrel is thicker and has a rib, the S&W barrel is a plain pipe more or less. Might have been more of a cylinder gap there also.
Anybody know why the Ruger shot sweeter even with the shorter barrel?
Also, both were used guns that have been shot a lot. The Smith might be older. Accurate though.
The Ruger was loud, but not too bad, but what surprised me was the S&W seemed to have more flash and bang - it was annoying... but I expected it to be the other way around.
One of the clerks surmised it might be due to more powder burning in the 4".
The Ruger's barrel is thicker and has a rib, the S&W barrel is a plain pipe more or less. Might have been more of a cylinder gap there also.
Anybody know why the Ruger shot sweeter even with the shorter barrel?
Also, both were used guns that have been shot a lot. The Smith might be older. Accurate though.
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Re: Revolver question
Are both revolvers CHAMBERED in .38Spl. The S&W mdl 10 is only chambered in .38Spl.? The SP101 is also chambered in .357Magnum. If the SP101 is chambered in .357Mag, the larger chamber would reduce pressures and might also reduce the noise.
If it's a .38Spl chamber... well... I just don't know.
If it's a .38Spl chamber... well... I just don't know.
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Re: Revolver question
I'm thinkin' you answered your own question:
... more of a cylinder gap...
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Re: Revolver question
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Re: Revolver question
I'm not familiar with that Smith & Wesson, but the Ruger is pretty muzzle-heavy for a small gun, and that seems to make it more pleasant to shoot (not necessarily quieter though).
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Re: Revolver question
Might have liked shooting it better because the grip fit your hand better. Funny how one perception affects another.
The early SP101s WERE .38 special with a shorter cylinder. They were then chambered for the .357 Mag (125 gr. bullet only due to COL). THEN they were chambered for the .357 Mag with the cylinder longer to accommodate all SAAMI ammo.
The early SP101s WERE .38 special with a shorter cylinder. They were then chambered for the .357 Mag (125 gr. bullet only due to COL). THEN they were chambered for the .357 Mag with the cylinder longer to accommodate all SAAMI ammo.
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Re: Revolver question
+1 on cylinder gap.
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Re: Revolver question
i have owned a Ruger SP-101 in .357mag (2 1/4"bbl ) for the last eight years...i often carry it as an optional BUG or as a third gun in my "GO-Bag"...i've owned a few S&W's (Model 10, 64,65, 66, 4", 2 1/2", or 2" bbl. length) and in the end i have always gravitated back to the Ruger...mostly personal prefernce...but i would also tell you that they are built and shoot very well...I WOULD BUY THE USED SP-101... :)
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Re: Revolver question
Just my 2 cents worth, but get the one that fits your hand best.
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Re: Revolver question
I have SP 101`s in .22 ,.38 and .357 , they all are great shooters and well made.
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Re: Revolver question
This SP-101 was a 38 special, it belongs to the range, but they were selling a new one in .357 with 3" barrel and so I got curious. Nice guns don't last the week there, I'll have to get it next time around.
I did find it easy to handle, I liked it better than the GP-100 or any of the Smiths I have tried. I also like the 5 round cylinder. I didn't think the recoil was too terrible, and I'm finding I don't like the heavier revolvers.
I particularly noticed the extra flash with the Smith, it wasn't the overall feel of it that was the problem, although I preferred the Ruger all around. It just surprised me because I expected the opposite - next time I'll take a better look at the cylinder gaps.
I did find it easy to handle, I liked it better than the GP-100 or any of the Smiths I have tried. I also like the 5 round cylinder. I didn't think the recoil was too terrible, and I'm finding I don't like the heavier revolvers.
I particularly noticed the extra flash with the Smith, it wasn't the overall feel of it that was the problem, although I preferred the Ruger all around. It just surprised me because I expected the opposite - next time I'll take a better look at the cylinder gaps.
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Re: Revolver question
I will say the cylinder gap too. SP101's tend to have pretty tight tollerances and are built like vaults. Not that a Model 10 is weak...
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Re: Revolver question
Chamber dimensions including chamber mouth, gap between cylinder and forcing cone, bullet diameter all play a part, no two guns are the same. Laws unto themselves. Must admit I prefer the Colts over Ruger and S&W revolvers. Especially the pre war revolvers.
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