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For many weeks now I've been experiencing an issue with Leverguns, and Leverguns only. Pages won't load and time out. Messages saying browser can't find it. Having to refresh several times before it will load.

It happens on several devices, using different browsers, and on my home wifi, others wifi, and 3G network. Everything else loads fine and I can surf and stream, and speed tests when it's happening come back fine.

So it's definitely Leverguns. I don't know if it's a server issue or something in the forum settings, but it's getting worse.

I've mentioned it in a couple other threads and the mods and admin have been completely silent.

Is anyone else experiencing this?

And while I was trying to post, it happened again.

Here is what I got.
This webpage is not available
The connection to www.levergunscommunity.com was interrupted.
And also an "error 101 server disconnected"
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Yes, I've been getting it too. It's pretty clear that whomever hosts Levergunscommunity.com is constantly under attack and also not meeting the threat as well as other hosts. It's not their fault that malicious threats constantly bombard all U.S. internet hosts and servers, but they need to up their game when compared to their peers.

Or at least that's what I think at this moment. More information could change that.
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Same here, had a post typed earlier and when I tried to post it said "host leverguns not responding".
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I'm going to start pasting the failure notice in quotes into my posts when it happens as I'm trying to post a reply. If it happens multiple times, I will have multiple quotes.

This thread was not started to hammer the forum or it's staff, it is more of an FYI and to see who else is experiencing the issue.
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Happened when I tried to load this. I certainly do not know. I suspect that Hobie and more likely AmBraCol are the only ones that might know the technical issue. I am sure. I will put it on the moderators forum and see if there is an answer forthcoming.
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2nd attempt to post this...timed out!

Maybe it's because of increased traffic from goobermint snoops?

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OK, I posted this there but the reason more mods were added is that those fellows have had more of their time taken up by other issues - we will see what comes back. A PM to AmBraCol is one route for answers. We have had service issues with Verizon here lately and not being techno type I did not know what to attribute it too. We have had it with other larger sites like FaceBook and Google News. Read Olys response - possibility there I suppose.

Here is what I got on trying to post this:

No data received
Unable to load the webpage because the server sent no data.
Here are some suggestions:
Reload this webpage later.
Error 324 (net::ERR_EMPTY_RESPONSE): The server closed the connection without sending any data.

Then this on attempt two.

Oops! Google Chrome could not connect to levergunscommunity.com
Suggestions:
Try reloading the page
Search on Google:

Attempt three:

No data received
Unable to load the webpage because the server sent no data.
Here are some suggestions:
Reload this webpage later.
Error 324 (net::ERR_EMPTY_RESPONSE): The server closed the connection without sending any data.

Four:

Oops! Google Chrome could not connect to levergunscommunity.com
Suggestions:
Try reloading the page
Search on Google:
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Very, Very slow....Chrome, and Safari both...This is the only site I have problems with... :(
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Same here.
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BlaineG wrote:Very, Very slow....Chrome, and Safari both...This is the only site I have problems with... :(
I say it's all big-B's fault for posting that picture the other day... :wink:
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So far I haven't had too much trouble getting on Lever Guns. A couple days ago the forum just would not open. The notice I got from Firefox was something to the effect the browser wasn't responding. I didn't copy it so I'm just trying to remember.

I'm using dial up too if that matters.

I just got this when I tried to post:
The connection was reset

The connection to the server was reset while the page was loading.
The site could be temporarily unavailable or too busy. Try again in a few
moments.
If you are unable to load any pages, check your computer's network
connection.
If your computer or network is protected by a firewall or proxy, make sure
that Firefox is permitted to access the Web.
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A matter of numbers... too many of y'all trying to access at once! Or... your service provider is limiting your bandwidth.
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Griff wrote:A matter of numbers... too many of y'all trying to access at once!


This forum doesn't have anywhere near enough members for that to be true
Or... your service provider is limiting your bandwidth.
I covered that. I can stream movies in HD. Which is basically using 3 times more bandwidth than the cumulative of users on Leverguns at the same time. This forum uses less bandwidth than a browsers homepage, so basically, if you were right, and our ISP was limiting the bandwidth that much, we wouldn't even be able to open a browser period.

We aren't having the issue anywhere else, just here. It's this forum, not our ISP/computer/sunspots/global warming etc/etc/etc.

But I knew someone was going to say that. Despite the fact I deliberately and in detail explained how that can not be the case :roll:
Oops! Google Chrome could not connect to www.levergunscommunity.com
This webpage is not available
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It's reading like a server issue, but it could also be a bad upstream router. I ran across this with my local isp once, called up their tech guy and showed him where the problem router was. He didn't believe me until I sent him a screen shot of the console.

Note: highly paid and educated IP professionals are certain that no one in the customer database could possibly discover anything on the networks.

used traceroute and then homed in on the flubbing router nodes...
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Grizz wrote:It's reading like a server issue, but it could also be a bad upstream router. I ran across this with my local isp once, called up their tech guy and showed him where the problem router was. He didn't believe me until I sent him a screen shot of the console.

Note: highly paid and educated IP professionals are certain that no one in the customer database could possibly discover anything on the networks.

used traceroute and then homed in on the flubbing router nodes...
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Slow here too. Problem seems only with this forum. The rest of the leverguns site, articles etc, works fine.
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Same here. :?
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I have noticed it for a long time, but with individual posts, not the whole forum.
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I think Grizz may be our man on this ... and here I was thinking bad trunion bearings :wink:
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BlaineG wrote:
Grizz wrote:It's reading like a server issue, but it could also be a bad upstream router. I ran across this with my local isp once, called up their tech guy and showed him where the problem router was. He didn't believe me until I sent him a screen shot of the console.

Note: highly paid and educated IP professionals are certain that no one in the customer database could possibly discover anything on the networks.

used traceroute and then homed in on the flubbing router nodes...
:shock: :o You have a great future with the IRS.... :P
that's scaring the carp outa me
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For what it's worth:

Tracing route to http://www.levergunscommunity.com [67.205.6.250]

1 0 ms ipv4-gtw.misk.com [208.43.97.209]
2 0 ms ae11.dar02.sr01.wdc01.networklayer.com [208.43.118.137]
3 0 ms ae9.bbr02.eq01.wdc02.networklayer.com [173.192.18.188]
4 1 ms be-100-pe01.ashburn.va.ibone.comcast.net [75.149.228.93]
5 3 ms thing-3-11-0-0-cr01.ashburn.va.ibone.comcast.net [68.86.86.145]
6 17 ms he-4-15-0-0-cr01.56marietta.ga.ibone.comcast.net [68.86.89.182]
7 38 ms thing-1-15-0-0-cr01.dallas.tx.ibone.comcast.net [68.86.88.246]
8 70 ms he-0-14-0-0-cr01.losangeles.ca.ibone.comcast.net [68.86.85.141]
9 89 ms as26347.losangeles.ca.ibone.comcast.net [75.149.228.206]
10 67 ms ip-69-163-188-134.dreamhost.com [69.163.188.134]
11 71 ms apache2-echo.hawkeye.dreamhost.com [67.205.6.250]

Trace Complete

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Old Savage wrote:I think Grizz may be our man on this ... and here I was thinking bad trunion bearings :wink:

It might be that Leverguns is just more stubborn than other sites; it takes making an effort to get through sometimes.
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Seems fast today. Traffic an issue?
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Was having issues earlier this morning, seems fine now.
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So I wonder what the difference is. Not knowledgeable in this sort of thing. I just use this stuff.
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Grizz wrote:
BlaineG wrote:
Grizz wrote:It's reading like a server issue, but it could also be a bad upstream router. I ran across this with my local isp once, called up their tech guy and showed him where the problem router was. He didn't believe me until I sent him a screen shot of the console.
Note: highly paid and educated IP professionals are certain that no one in the customer database could possibly discover anything on the networks.
used traceroute and then homed in on the flubbing router nodes...
:shock: :o You have a great future with the IRS.... :P
that's scaring the carp outa me
But, that might not be a bad thing...
Old Savage wrote:I think Grizz may be our man on this ... and here I was thinking bad trunion bearings :wink:
The fact that this came from a "greenie" scares me!

Since I'm on an "air-card" and subject to the data speeds with cell carriers, it often seems slow to me... othertimes, it only loads a ½ page, or sits there on a blank page...
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Old Savage wrote:So I wonder what the difference is. Not knowledgeable in this sort of thing. I just use this stuff.
DOS attacks, denial of service, are hacks that involve making hundreds of thousands of page requests in a short period of time, overwhelming the server's ability to respond. this is common and many ISPs are becoming more hardened against this. bots run these attacks in the wild making use of co-opted computers wherever they can be found.

The issue I mentioned earlier is a failing router or circuit that isn't handling the routing efficiently. There are also hacks run against the routers and against subnets, clogging with useless traffic. Sometimes this is done to find vulnerable computers. This is one way that foreign hackers have breached the pentagon and other large networks.

I once found an ISP with completely open access to their subscribers. One could open folders and read email and view pictures that people thought were hidden. They aren't. Although these days that kind of access is not common. I guess...
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The forum was unusable for me this AM. Fine now. Sure hope that whatever it is gets fixed.
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I haven't had any issues until yesterday - when I got the same "server not found" message.

My first thought was: "Uh-oh, this looks a lot like it did when leverguns crashed 8-10 years ago & had to be moved to another server(s)."

(Remember the "old" leverguns.com & now this "new" levergunscommunity.com ?)

As of the afternoon, though, it seem stable - so mayhaps "whatever" got fixed...................



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Pete I still have a copy of the old Leverguns logo on my hard drive
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Hey guys,

I'm checking it out but so far nothing concrete. Everytime I try to access the forum it comes up licketysplit. Of course, I'm just north of the Equator and south of the Canal so maybe the servers between the host and my 'puter are different. Or???

Next time you have an issue loading the site, try dropping me an email to my "handle" here AT gmail DAHT com. That's the email that reaches me just about anywhere or anytime (except when I'm asleep). I'll do my best to get on and try to see what's going on. But so far I've not been able to replicate the issues you guys are having.
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I've noticed that it's poor to unusable in the morning, and better to perfect in the evening.... :? :?
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I have the same problems over here on two different computers.
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Pete44ru wrote:I haven't had any issues until yesterday - when I got the same "server not found" message.

My first thought was: "Uh-oh, this looks a lot like it did when leverguns crashed 8-10 years ago & had to be moved to another server(s)."

(Remember the "old" leverguns.com & now this "new" levergunscommunity.com ?)

As of the afternoon, though, it seem stable - so mayhaps "whatever" got fixed...................
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You're right Pete, I remember that as well.

A little trick I found that has been working for me is:
After the first click on the mouse, count to ten then click it again.
By doing so must give it extra needed time before it times out.
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