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jnyork
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Not levers but still guns

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I have a collection of almost all the American Rifleman magazines from 1930 to 1949. They are very interesting to me, particularly because the technical articles are so much better than today's, the authors back then gave their readers credit for being able to read and comprehend!

A glance through the January 1938 issue found a long article by Ned Roberts, in which he tested a new Winchester model 70 chambered, of course, for .257 Roberts. Using a 12x Unertl, he was able to shoot some 200 yard groups of 3" or less with factory ammo and somewhat better with handloads. No so great for today's hotshot benchrest shooters, but pretty good indeed for those days of no spitzer bullets, only roundnose, no glass bedding, etc. He bemoans the fact that there are no spitzers unless you want to buy them from one new company just starting up, but they cost $3.00 per hundred which he considers an astrnomical sum in those depression days. Western Lubaloy 117 grainers were $10.00 per THOUSAND and shot almost as well. 39 grains of 3031 and 40 grains of 4064 were the loads he used, still work pretty well today, 70 Years later.

Also, in this same issue, an article by Henry Akin wherein he extensively tests the new 22-3000 Lovell in a Model 54 Winchester. This would eventually become the 22-250 of today. The author was very much impressed with the new cartridge, both off the bench and on a varmint expedition to Idaho.

Also, a one page article from NRA Headquarters condemning the newly proposed Federal legislation requiring the registration of all firearms in the United States. Some things never change, I guess
Cast Bullet Hunter
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Post by Cast Bullet Hunter »

Just for the record, the only similarity between the .22-3000 and the .22-250 is they are both .22 caliber.

The .22-250 is nothing more than the .250 Savage necked down to.22 with no other changes. t is a rimless cartridge with the standard .473 nominal diameter head shared by all cartridges developed over the last 120 yrs. from ultimately the 8x57 Mauser. The cartridge was originally developed by Gerry Gebby as the .22 Varminter.

The .22-3000 is a .25-20 Single-Shot necked to .22 caliber with basically no other changes. This is not the .25-20 Winchester! It is a rimmed case with a base diameter of nominally .318 and a rim diameter of from .375-.382. From the .22-3000 were developed the .22 Lovell R-2, and the .22 Maximum Lovell also known as the #6 Lovell. The last two were "improved" versions of the original .22-3000.

Not even close.
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