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IIRC, back in the early -70's, Gun Digest ran an article, about reboring a .30-30 Winchester (left, below) out to .358" (.35 cal) - resulting in the .35-30 wildcat (right, below).
I'm thinkin': A beater post-64 Model 94 + a $245 rebore/rerifle to .358" by JES...................
There would be more bullets and molds available than for the .38-55 (currently).
The chamber reamer could be made to actually fit reformed and common brass.
Reloading dies, I don`t know about, but It has been done before more than once.
FWIW, a .356 BB94 has already come & gone from my safe (not to mention every other chambering in the BB line, except the .307) - but I'm intregued by grabbing a $250 beater M94 + a $245 rebore for less than what a .356 BB94 goes for these days.
I LIKE the idea of a .35 Remington cartridge (sic) in a Winchester 94.................................
I personally don't care for the look of the big bores as much as the standard 94s.
The .35-30 (or .35-30-30, whatever you want to call it) can give you more options with heavy cast bullets than a .35 Rem., from what I understand, due to the longer neck.
7.62 Precision wrote: The .35-30 (or .35-30-30, whatever you want to call it) can give you more options with heavy cast bullets than a .35 Rem., from what I understand, due to the longer neck.
You've got that right! The short neck and almost zero throat on a standard 35 Rem certainly limits cast bullet selection. The 35/30 should be a beautiful cast bullet platform.
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I've got a buddy with an old Savage 340 bolt gun with a nasty barrel he's having this conversion done on. Not as nice as a '94 conversion, but still a nice project.
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Forty or so years back I wanted a Marlin in .35 Remington so bad and then I heard about the .30-35 and decided I needed one even worse then the Rem.. Well to this day I have neither but if I ever find a shot out 94 on my doorstep you know what I'll do with it. That should be one fantastic deer cartridge.
well I have just had to edit this post twice for typos even after spell check, shouldn't be posting after celebrating with the bubbly. Want to guess how many times I had to retype this sentence?
Great cartridge. The conversion cost $225 from Jesse. Die are Redding custom ordered from Midway and cost $109. 38-55 brass is easiest to form, one pass through dies with never a problem. 32 Special might lose 1 out of 12 pieces due to crushing. New 30-30 is the worst but twice fired or fireformed come out pretty good. Trim brass to 1.98 before sizing and it works greater. Benchmark is best powder as you can fill the caee, even compressed and still only be 34,000 psi with big, jacketed bullets. 33-35 grains with a 200 gr jacketed bullet will get 2000+ fps and a lead gas checked 225-259 grain does 2055 to 2190 fps. 270gr lead can do 2000 fps and a 300 gr does 1900 fps. Accuracy out of my rifle is consistent 2 in groups, 5 shots at 100 yards off the bench. Can out-perform 35 Rem readily. 200 gr CoreLokts punch through deer with expansion and should uphold the 35 Rem performance reputation and likely exceed it.
Why didn't Winchester ever legitimize the 35-30? It seems like it would have been logical as an answer to the Marlin 35 Rem 336 & a more economical offering then the 358/356 Win Big Bore.
Any chance they might do it now? or Marlin? or Rossi? Marlin did bring out 338 Marlin Express so they seem open to new cartridges.
Of course I'm the guy who still thinks the 7-30 Waters is a good idea, a 250 Savage and a 300 Savage lever action would sell, and a 38-55 Trapper is the truck gun that everyone should have........I mean they should come standard in trucks like jacks and spare tires.
Because the .35 Remington has never been a good seller. It is the only survivor of the original line of Model 8 cartridges, and that is probably only because it was a popular cartridge for the auto-loader, and Marlin saw the advantages of the cartridge and chambered it in the 336.
Sales stay steady enough to keep the cartridge alive, but are not spectacular.
The big companies like to stay with what is safe and proven, and usually only move forward with stuff once the smaller, more responsive companies prove that something can sell.
I agree that .35-30 could be a solid seller, along with 7-30 Waters, if the marketing was strong. One day I will have both if I can scrape the money together.
The gunwriters can be a problem too - from way back they have been saying that .35-30 could never match .35 Rem because the case capacity is lower (only barely, and not enough to really make a difference, mostly). Gunwriters have an incredible power over the buying habits of shooters. Gun manufactures know and respect this. There have been many good cartridges killed by a few words from a popular gunwriter.
