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The brass seems to last forever. You can make it from 444 Marlin bt you need to anneal it.

Johnny, I have not seen your posts for awhile, have you always been in Arkansas?

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I would like one in left hand but cannot quite get past the $900.00+ price tag. I know its only money but….

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I was in an Academy last summer and bought a large red rubber block and several smaller red rubber balls with webs. These are quite a bit of fun to shoot at with the .22’s up through the 45’s.

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I have shot a few deer with this bullet, without looking at my hunting log I am certain it is less than 5. The Nosler opens up quickly as you would expect and at close range - 50 yards and less will blood shoot a bit of meat. At close range this could mean a loss or stew meat for a shoulder. I remem...

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As mentioned throat fit is the key. In my Winchester the Lee 250-grain cast bullets shoots very well. A good load with the Lee bullet in the Winchester is 27.5 grains of IMR 4198 which give me just shy of 1,850 fps. With iron sights from the bench I can shoot 2 ½ to 3” groups all of the time. I have...

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Here is a link to the SAAMI drawing headspace marked with the X

http://www.saami.org/PubResources/CC_Dr ... hester.pdf

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Chris, SAAMI lists the minimum headspaces as .063” on the rim and the maximum as .070”. The point of the shoulder of a cartridge is listed as 1.5598” and the point of the shoulder in the chamber as 1.5624”. With hammer forged barrels it is unlikely your measurement will be different. Have you looked...

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Chris, I thought I had this drawing somewhere, it is from the December 1946 issue of the American Rifleman. The illustration shows the clearance always present at the shoulder of rimmed, bottle neck cartridges which helps to ensure the rim will bear on its seat before the shoulder comes in contact w...

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Chris,

307/356 Headspace measured on the rim. Use a 30-30 washer type headspace gage from Forster. Your rim thickness should be about .0630”.

For a vertical locking lug check with WinchesterParts.com I believe I have seen oversize lugs but they may have been for the standard Model 94.

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Their worth reading, you might as well have a new set.

Legacy of Leverguns 2000

http://www.riflemagazine.com/catalog/de ... oductID=55

Legacy of Leverguns Vol. 2

http://www.riflemagazine.com/catalog/de ... uctID=1622

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If you have a sling on your rifle put the sling over your shoulder with the rifle up side down under your arm slightly muzzle high. Push the rifle to your body with your elbow to hold the rifle steady. This allows you to use both hands and simplifies loads of the 22’s with magazine tubes. When your ...

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I like heavy bullets at modest velocity too. The Barnes X and now the TSX change my thinking some as they prenetrate beyond all expectations.
I have not put the new Hornady GMX in the water box yet but it shoots well in the 307.

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Agreed, I could be very happy with the 444 Marlin, or.... a 307 Winchester [:^)]

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Long day and my mind is a blank on discussions. The 32 Winchester Special will deliver the goods with both light and heavy castt bullets. Many of the old timers felt the 32 Special killed quicker than the 30-30 and the 303 Savage. There were several reasons for these thoughts. There is an old Kennet...

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I have an almost complet collection of the hard copies. After I got the CDs I have abused the old books a lot less. You can word search and for the most part it works!

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The Advanced Book Exchange, I'll post a link. Of course there is the Amazon search. Powells.com is anther good one. I really enjoy visiting about the lever guns - its the only real reason I internet. What did you think of Chip and his 38 X 40 and then 40 X 40 with a Henry and black powder? Lets see ...

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Accurizing the Factory Rifle by M.L. McPherson will get you started on tuning your leverguns. Get the Gun Digest on CD - it is on sale often. There are several good articles in the 1960's on leverguns. [EDIT] Cruise through ABE and keep a look out for these magazines. One of the best articles on acc...

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"Wow an article 21 years ago."

Yes, but memorable. When I think of Terry this is the article I think of first. It's the same with Seyfried, his best articles are 20 years old. The 1980’s and ‘90’s was a pretty good time for the hand gunner.

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"I am however a bit curiouse as to what publications they may have been ." 6Pt, The Murbach article Ienjoyed most was the one mentioned in my post: "The Trail Masterpeice" from the Guns & Ammo Annual - 1991. Not an earth shattering piece of writing but good enough to cost me ...

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Go over to the Beartooth bullets forum and use the advanced search with .30-30ai and my name and you find a few threads to get you started for load data. I too like Alliant Reloder 15 and Hodgdon Varget - with the 170-grain Speer bullet. This bullet has a point blank range on an 8” circle out to 240...

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I don’t have a stake in a fight with the bullet companies and their manuals. I understand about not having two nickles to rub together - been there - more than once. I bought the new Speer No. 14 Manual and I got one of the copies with pagination troubles. Ticked me off. With this said, the Speer No...

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DPris wrote:living quietly on the Sussex Downs tending to their bees.
Denis

Ah, I still have a last jar of the '86...

(sorry about tha, I was thinking of Delta and the Bannermen...)

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When I started loading the 30-30AI I headed off in the wrong direction, Terry pulled me back toward the light. With oone or two gentle prodsTerry saved me a lot of frustration. Terry also named the 3”barrel, full underlug Model 36 in flat black finish the “Trail Masterpiece.” I read his article and ...

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.[/quote]And that is for FEEDING and means nothing if the bullet won't stabilize due to the rifling twist rate. :lol:[/quote] 30-30 WCF has no trouble shooting long distance using the Gould bullet in his Marlin Cowboy. I shoot the rams with no trouble from the bench at 200-yards. I have more trouble...

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What surprised me was the generous throat on all of the 45 Colt rifles examined by John - 30-30WCF. All of the rifles examined would ccept a .459” bullet.

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Forum member 30-30WCF can tell us quite a bit about this. Here is a link to the thread started by Marlin Collecotr on the use of the Lyman 457122HP bullet in the colt. I have fed these through the Winchester as-cast without trouble. John has done the same with the Marlin 1894. The thread starts slow...

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Happy Birthday!

I was complaining as we have an inch of snow and about 3 hours of sleet on top. It has not been above 30 degrees.

65 degrees tomorrow.

Perspective I guess!

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I've always thought it ironic that the ranchers I know tend to shoot every one they see, because of the damage they might cause a horse, calf, or dog. Darn things chew on the side of the well house, electrical wiring and PVC pipe. If they just ate trees I would leave them alone but i shoot them off...

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I have never called a bullet a boolit because it, well just seems silly to me. I have never done "cute" well. Many years ago, a girlfriend called me a "stuffed shirt" (there is a dated expression) and she was correct. I am a stiff and formal sort. I believe we know the same girl...

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I agree the safeties and the hammer/trigger “stink on ice.” The wood to metal fit is not as good as on a pre-WW II Model 94. The late XTR’s will stand beside any of the Post WWII carbines I have handled for smoothness - nowhere near the pre-WW II carbines. The late 1950’s and the 1960’s carbines wer...

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I must agree. In spite of the safeties, the long take-up trigger and the rebounding hammer the modern Model 94AE and the Big Bore rifles are EXACTLY what we were asking for in the 1950’s (really before my hunting time) ‘60’s and ‘70’s. More power with longer point blank range along with better accur...

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There are no good ones. I have asked Greg Mushial to develop one as he has every issue from No1 to today. I have the majority of them and offered to help but he has been resistant. A good cross refferenced index will be difficult. There are a few limited indexes available on the web such as this one...

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I have used the Speer 170-grain bullet on our whitetail deer loaded to 2,575 fps and a bit beyond. This is a wonderful bullet in the 307 Winchester, as stated above it retains its weight and penetrates well. The Speer bullet also has a good BC for a flat nose bullet. My understanding is Speer has ch...

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It does have a lot of sub forums.
I'll give em a chance. I joined and posted two pictures.
I dont see much of interest to post on but all boards start slow.

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One of my favorties is "Home Gunsmithing of the Colt S.A.A. Revolver" by Loren Smith

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I believe part of the problem with the 357’s is the little spring which helps to hold the cartridge level on the lifter. When this spring bends out of position the cartridge coming out of the magazine onto the lifter is not held firmly there is a tendency to move the lever back and forth to position...

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We have a 24” 32 H&R Magnum TC barrel and use this rifle for called varmints and as a walk around barrel. This is one of the few firearms with which we feel comfortable firing the occasional shot without ear protection. This is a handy and powerful combination, with iron sigts this TC carbine we...

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I hope this makes sence, i am reading it back and I think I have my thoughts together... Penetration depends on the bullet selected. For example, the Lyman 358430 a 190-grain round nose bullet will penetrate an astonishing amount when launched at 700 fps. I have not tested it but I would wager a 240...

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The 14” twist was my thought. A suprising number of rifles were barreled for slow twist 25-35 and 25 Remington in the 1920 through 1940 period. A variety of twists were used and I believe for my purpose - varmints and our small deer - a 100-grain bullet is all I need in a 25 Remington or 25 Souper. ...

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I agree the 25 Remington will do the job on coyotes with the 87-grain bullets. I am linking to two pictures of my formed cases. (I am thinking of dial up and the loading of pictures which causes me to sometimes not read a thread) I bought a Savage Model 14 to re-barrel to 25 Souper for a trial. I ha...

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I like this thread, 25 Remington and interesting iron sight.
Here is a bit of Dockendorf stuff.

http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/dd3 ... endorf.jpg

http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/dd3 ... endorf.jpg

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We had a 3” 44 Spl many years ago. When the 327 came out we bought the 4” 327 Patriot to get a Kit Gun in the new chambering. As with all Charter Arms revolvers the double action feel is a bit different but not unacceptable. The sights are poor on this revolver - our only real complaint. The front s...

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Follow the link to the 327 thread on the Beartooth forum. The purpose is not to promote the thread or the forum but for you to look at post #11. I have an open top trough but for one or two bullets I use light cardboard boxes and water filled trash sacks. If you cardboard boxes are tough cut the end...

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I shoot 48.0 grains of Winchester 748 behind the 220-grain Speer bullet. In my Winchester I get 2,257 fps and this is an accurate but compressed load. Its about all I can put in the case and seat the bullet to my preferred COAL of 2.500”. I am certain with a COAL of 2.600” you can get 49.0 grains in...

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I thought Harris Brader from Vancouver Washington had an improved 30-30. Brader had an improved 218 Bee, 219 Zipper, 25-30-30, 25-36 Marlin, improved 25 Krag etc. I thought I had a picture of it but I cannot find it.
Ackley made up the improved 30-30 for Robert Hutton.

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I have seen pictures of the brass frame Henry 22’s but have never actually seen one.
My understanding is you can buy decorative covers from Henry, some with engraving.

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Don says it all very well. The shoulder is pushed well forward. If you are looking for high performance, the pressures are high but there does not seem to be a down side to that. We have shot a lot of ammunition through our rifles at high pressure with no ill affect. If you shoot cast bullets, you h...

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Not trying to plug a non-advertiser but you might look at David Whites options for stubbing a handi-rifle barrel. David and other gunsmiths make some fine replacement barrels by stubbing a new barrel in the cut off stub of the handi or TC barrel. David made a 17 Ackley Hornet for my wife and it is a...

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I agree about the longer barrel Marlins, they are almost as nice as a Model 64 Winchester - where are those smiley faces… I like my 308MX very much, this is a well balanced off-hand rifle. The 16” Trapper handles well with iron sights. When scope I prefer the forward mounted scope on the Trapper. Th...

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Take it from someone who has fooled with the 30-30AI a bit. Look for a 26” Winchester Buffalo Bill. The 26” barrel will shoot factory 170-grain round nose Remington ammunition 2,335 fps. Equip the rifle with a Lyman receiver sight - no need for screwdrivers to adjust windage and elevation - and a Ma...

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