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Myself, I prefer "Winny"

It reminds me less of cute little talking bears.

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You can call Cody and do a serial search to find out for sure, if the serial is under about 350,000. There are no records past that number. If you aren't a Cody member and you want a serial search, PM me the serial number and I'll call it in for you. To answer your question, it normally detracts if ...

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lever-4-life wrote:The rifle is different...and that dove-tale in the bolt

Please do post pics. Doesn't sound like a 98A bolt peep if it's dovetailed.

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Someone else here had a similar problem a few years ago with 348 factory stuff. I want to say Pharmseller, Boreman, or big bear...I can't remember. Whoever it was had located and bought an entire case of ammo and was getting splits. They called Winchester to see about exchanging the ammo and I don't...

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I'd say Marlins. I think the wood is a bit nicer on the low-end Marlins vs low-end Winnys, and the fit and finish on the late production Winnys leaves a lot to be desired. Look at the gap between the wood and the receiver/tang area on a late New Haven rifle and you'll see what I mean. My dad bought ...

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I just picked up a 1907 vintage winchester model 1894 rifle that is cut for a bolt peep. What's most interesting about this is the timing. The 98A bolt peep didn't come around until the 30s, IIRC. I'll have to check my sight book. I would guess you have a Model 64 bolt in your rifle. Not that it ma...

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The most depressing information I have so far is a Handloader article by Ken Chapman where he had a 0.412 bore '81 and found the only option was to ream the chamber neck :shock:, and made his own custom bullet molds. Cha-ching!! I'll go to BP or duplex loads before I go to that extreme. 71fan, Can ...

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I sure don't want to mess with the throat on this nice old rifle. I'll try very hard to avoid that.

A HUGE thank you to Kansas Ed for the care package he sent me -- THANK YOU ED.

I ordered the dies and some Cerrosafe tonight so I'm on hold until I get that stuff.

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This is great...so much good information and ideas. OK, so my next step is to confirm my throat size. I'm having a hard time believing the cases didn't expand...but they didn't. If my throat truly is .426", and my bore is .4145, that means I'd have to turn my necks from 0.011 down to 0.007"...

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If you're not in a great hurry I need to run another batch of those lymans from 20-1 I could send you a handful to try. Have a few ready to roll right now, but they are from Lyman #2. Don, Thank you very much for the offer. I may take you up on it later. Ed is sending me some various sizes so I can...

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I think 5744 and 4759 are a little too fast for cream of wheat filler. As I mentioned in my earlier post, I prefer to use slower powders like IMR 3031 with cream of wheat filler. This is to keep the pressure down. It never hurts to be cautious. You can either bump up a soft cast bullet with a faste...

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Now I'm scratching my head... Before firing, the neck is 0.426" After firing, the neck is 0.4265" Inside diameter after firing is 0.4045" Case wall thickness is 0.011" It would seem there was no expansion of the case at the neck. There are no signs of gas/fouling on the brass, so...

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Thank you all for the replies. Good info...and quick. I'm going to the range tomorrow to generate some brass from factory PMC 260s, which I know are at .406. I don't expect them to shoot worth a darn, but it was almost cheaper to buy the loaded ammo than the brass, and way more fun. Anyway, I should...

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I have a new-to-me Marlin 1881 in .40 Marlin (40-65) with a 0.4145" bore. That is a big problem, since the largest diameter 260 gr FP cast bullets available are generally around 0.409. There are also some 41 mag 215 gr SWCs that go up to 0.411. Even if I could find a bullet the right diameter, ...

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I agree with the last letter being a "b." The M, A, and W are all caps, so I agree with M. A. W*** The best I can decipher is M. A. Wat**b. I can't tell if it's one or two letters between the t and b. If it's two, the first may be an "s." In doing a google search, "Watsib&qu...

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Soccer tourney with my oldest - potentially five games in two days

In between games I'll be getting taxes done for the 9-15 deadline

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I had problems in 94 trapper...don't know about the B-92. However, to avoid the possible problems avoid SWCs in the specials and get as small a ogive as possible to still be safe in the lever. My Trapper's problem was the wider bullets and the SWC belts getting hung up at the breech. Also, $400 is a...

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40-65 wcf / .40 Marlin
It's not too unusual, but it is MY most unusual
Performs about like a 44 mag out of a trapper; Major Ned Roberts wrote that it has the best killing power of any levergun cartridge.
$0.60/shot PMC factory, about $0.35 reloaded.

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How come nobody has mentioned 40/70? Because rifles start at $2k and dies are about $150, then there's the brass...:D :D Sort of takes the joy out of it for most common folk like me :wink: I like it too, but I can't say it's my favorite. I'm going with 30-30 . It's just so darn utilitarian how coul...

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I think that's pretty steep, and it appears others do too since that rifle's been re-listed 14 times without a single bid. Prices are way down now, and the inventory is rising. I bought a 358 Brush Gun with a Leupold on this forum several months back for less than that. IMO, if you keep looking you'...

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Save yourself a lot of work and money! Go to Track of the Wolf and buy the PMC cowboy loads of .40-65 for around $11 a box. Cheap and great ammo. You'll have the brass to reload and shoot again. Shhhhhh!! That's my secret stash. Saz, 260 gr was the original factory loading for both W and M. You'll ...

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Any thoughts on the plain grip cap? :?: The grip cap looks correct to me. :?: What do you mean? The grip cap to which I refer is the one on MY Model 71. It is a late production ( last 1-2years) Deluxe Model, bought from son of owner who shot it four times, put it in closet, then was never well enou...

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Any thoughts on the plain grip cap? :?: The grip cap looks correct to me. :?: What do you mean? The grip cap to which I refer is the one on MY Model 71. It is a late production ( last 1-2years) Deluxe Model, bought from son of owner who shot it four times, put it in closet, then was never well enou...

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Chad, there were 159,956 '86s manufactured. Well, at least that's what has been recorded, but there are "rumors" of serial numbers above 160,000. Yes, but when you account for missing records, Madl only includes about 140,000 to 141,000 guns in his counts. So any numbers gleaned from his ...

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I would love to see that rifle. It is indeed a rare one. I'd guess "somewhere" between 25k and 40k, if it's still in good condition with some colors. Be sure to let us know, and post pics if she doesn't mind. Two observations / comments: 1. I'm curious to see what sights are on it, and wou...

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Blaine, My price quote could vary a LOT, depending on exactly when said carbine was manufactured. If you've found a Winchester 1894 that sez ".30WCF" on the barrel where mine sometimes read ".30-30" in 90-95% condition... I'd have to say $2K+! But, if your nominee for carbine of...

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big bear wrote:Any thoughts on the plain grip cap?

The grip cap looks correct to me.

What do you mean?

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The transition rifles have a finer checkering patten as well. 24 lpi for long tang and transition, and 20 lpi for short tang. Actually, my transition had slightly finer/nicer checkering than any of the three LTs I've owned. On a transition you find the short tang, the checkered hammer, and finer che...

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Beatifull!! If only it were 38-55 (and $1,000

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I really like the 1/2 oct / 1/2 mag configuration on the old Winchesters.

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In 2005 I thought it would be great to try deer with my Win 1895 303. I hunted Mojave - D17. I had one opportunity on a four day hunt - low light, 175 yards. If I had my .264 I wouldn't have gone home empty-handed, as I did. I am a fast learner. In CA, I always assume I will only get one chance - on...

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Very nice to hear some good new out of CA. I would love to get one down here but apparently the Sheriffs have different viewpoints regarding CCW, as GR alluded to. I've considered just taking the class anyway for the education and training, and your experience has put me closer to that. Good for you!

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Curious, but I thought 1908 production was still in the records? When did the individual records stop? Ed Here you go: http://www.bbhc.org/firearms/CFMSerialNumberList_2008.pdf The last recorded 1894 is around serial 354,000. This corresponds to 1906 by Madis' numbers, but we now know Madis' number...

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That rifle is too late to letter. It could be correct, but not likely. Closer inspection is required for the following: The two pieces of wood don't match - the finish and color are different, and the forend is sanded below the metal, while the butt is proud. The mag tube bluing is different color t...

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1. Custom Mauser in 25-60 with an outstanding piece of wood...a truly superb, well built custom Mauser. I stumbled across it in the parking lot of a gun show and paid a desperate man $800 cash. I didn't really know what I had but I knew I got it for a steal. I decided it was too nice to hunt with, s...

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Very nice pictures so far. I'll add a few I took recently... Here are a couple of themed pics, followed by my newest addition to the family. These are all shooters, BTW; no safe queens in my house :) 1886s and 71s http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/medium/DSC_0046.JPG Redfields on Leverguns http://www....

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Wind,
What manual is that page from? I'm surprised to see 2400 and Unique listed...interesting.

Thank you everyone for the information. There's definitely enough to get me going now.

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Single Action: I.J. Cattleman in 44 mag; bought for CAS in 1993 because it was all I could afford. I disliked it and sold it shortly thereafter, and bought an Uberti 1860 and shot CAS with one cap-and-ball revolver and a borrowed Ruger BH. I was in college and very poor, but I loved the game. Lever ...

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I recently acquired a original Marlin 1895 in 45-90. I've been bouncing around the internet collecting load data but there isn't too much out there. I think I have enough to get started though. I would like to hear from forum members to see who is loading the 45-90 in an original (old) levergun, and...

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I don't know about the product, and I'm not interested. However, in reading the description and product information it appears that ONE purchase of $84 would last through several applications. They are showing a pea-sized amount on the tip of a bullet, and it appears that the package contains many p...

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I worked with 4831SC quite a bit based on the same A+ accuracy goal you're after. I have never had good results out of my short tang. I landed at 67.0 gr for a 200 Hornady, which was the most accurate load I could get, but it was still inconsistent. I'd get a 3-1/2'ish group every once in a while, b...

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Yep Andy...Mt. Laguna. There, Idyllwild, and Palomar Mountain are where the boys get broken-in to the good life.

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We did a similar poll almost a year ago, but instead of "handiest" it was the prefered characteristics of a levergun. We got about 30 good responses which I put on a spreadsheet, but I don't think there's a way to post a spreadsheet. Anyway, the resultant rifle is a 22" short rifle wi...

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Darn....too short notice. I promised the boys a camping trip at Laguna.

You guys have fun and hopefully I'll make the next one.

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Kudos Nate. I guess I'll have to gather a few of my gun friends and join one of your meets. I read the Reader often and am quite surprised by this article.

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I used #5 for many years as my CAS load. It is very fine and that's why I liked it - it metered very consistently. Another thing I like about #5 - I used 6.0 gr in 44 mag without filler, which is about 25% capacity (guessing), and I never had an ignition problem over thousands of rounds and 5 years ...

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Winchester Models 1866, 1873, 1876, 1886, 1892, 1894, 1895, 53, 55, 65, 64, & 71. I think the 1885 should be added, so I will. Here goes: 1894, 1886, 1873, 1892, 71, 1885, 1895, and then all the others are muddled in the end. I selected them based on a combination of desireability, availabity, ...

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I saved my 4-H pig money for two years and bought my first CF rifle the spring before my first mule deer hunt when I was 12. It is a Winchester Model 70 Featherweight in 243, mfg about 1984~1985. My dad pretty much told me what I was getting and I think he chose perfectly for the Nevada hunting we d...

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Thanks for the range report! All of this recent 44 sp/mag talk on the forum is great - they are my big bore(s) of choice.

Good luck with your rifle, and if you do "need" to get rid of it, I'm sure you won't have any trouble.

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Very nice.

Two in the same week - I got my brown box Colt 44 sp on Tuesay. Aren't we lucky

I'll be interested to hear your range reports and load information.

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