OT: Chamber Adapters

[rock-steady]

Walking out of the woods from the deer stand, I have walked right up close to several big ol fat rabbits. I was thinking about getting a chamber insert for a 30.06, say one in 32 H&R Mag. I would be able to shoot 32 S&W, 32 S&W Long and 32Mag out of my bolt gun. I could pop a rabbit and have some fresh camp meat. Have any of yall tried a chamber adapter, and did it work OK? Or is this a bummer idea?

[iceman]

Good question! I have also seen 20ga /357 adapters, are they worth it?

[Pete44ru]

it works just fine, as long as some range work is done beforehand to determine the POI with the rifle's sights zeroed for the deer hunting full-power loads - especially for those who hunt in areas where the carrying of a companion .22 handgun is proscribed.

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[Nath]

Or make some squib loads for the guns cartridge in question!
Probably be cheaper.

Nath.

[AJMD429]

One I had (and lost before I tried it) was for .308 in .30-06, and was semi-permanent. I'm sure the lower-pressure, full-length ones would come out more easily, but it could be a bit of lube would be good (...or dangerous...). Anyway, I'd check that out before using one.

[Rusty]

There's a guy in AK that makes them. They run about $20 each in blued steel IIRC.

[Borregos]

Or make some squib loads for the guns cartridge in question!
Probably be cheaper.

Nath.

I think this would be a better idea

[cshold]

I have two of them for the 25-35 Win. to .25acp
They are nothing to brag about accuracy wise.

[Malamute]

I have one in 32 auto/30-30. it works fine, and accuracy isnt too bad to about 30 yards or so. No lube needed.

I look for cheap 32 auto ammo at guns hows, and parial boxes, but find that just loading some round ball or very light cast bullet loads is simpler and cheaper in the long run. If you arent a reloader, this may be a good time to at least pick up a Lee Loader so you can make up some small game and practice loads simply.

[Tumbleweeds II]

I have an old Marbles .32 ACP to .300 Savage adapter that holds the .32 cartridge at the front, so the loaded adapter looks a lot like a .300 round. I works, but point of impact is nowhere near that of the .300, so I have to sight it separately. If I want to own one rifle and hunt rabbits with a Savage 99 in the off season, it is pretty good.

The handloader thing of a cast bullet cat sneeze load that shoots to point of aim at 25 yards would work a whole lot better. I have an old Don Zutz book with some .30-06 recipes if you're interested. On the other hand, I'll bet a Trail Boss load would be really "boss".

[rock-steady]

Thanks for the information. I will nix the chamber adapter idea and try the "cat-sneeze" approach. I have some .30cal Lasercast 170gr flat points that i use in 30/30 loads. TumbleweedsII, could you post some 30'06 cat-sneeze recipes or pm me?

[76/444]

Picked a couple up from SportsmanGuide awhile back. For my Mauser ought6. Probably one of the most stupid things I ever did. Not only was accuracy at a spread of 1 to 2 feet at 25 yds,...then I started thinking how I really didn't want to screw with the chamber, on my long distance weapon.

I tossed them at my desert range,... without looking back.

[k8vf]

What about using the Remington Accellerators for 30-06?

.222 cal, i think , in a sabot at abt 4000 fps, but might do what you want.

Do they still make these?

BTW, if you use these in your lever gun with tubular magazine, REMEMBER ONE IN BARREL and ONE ONLY in magazine.

Mark

[jdad]

How about converting your old 8mm K98 Mauser to a 22.....

http://www.auctionarms.com/search/displ ... &oh=216543

[Tumbleweeds II]

Rock-steady, I'll check my records when I get home this evening.

As to the Accelerator, it is still available but I would rather shoot a rabbit with a big game load. Then you would have a better chance to find the bullet to wipe off some meat

[Tumbleweeds II]

I haven't shot this load myself, but here's what Don Zutz had to say:

.30-06, 180 gr. cast bullet with gas check

13 - 17 gr. Unique, 1500 - 1875 fps
12.5 - 14.5 gr. Green Dot, 1500 - 1625 fps
19 - 25 gr. 2400, 1700 - 2000 fps

The idea is, you try different loads until you find one that shoots to point of aim at small game range, like 25 yds.

He also offered a jacketed bullet load: 150 gr. bullet, 22.5 - 25 gr. SR 4759, 1800 - 2000 fps.

Zutz suggested you elevate the muzzle before shooting to move the powder to the primer, stating that squirrels and grouse are usually shot in trees anyway. For rabbits, you might want to put a puff of dacron over the powder to keep it where it belongs.

All this info comes from "Handloading for Hunters", published by Winchester Press in 1977. It's old info, and powders have changed, but not so much as to make any of this dangerous in a rifle cartridge. Just don't load so light that you have a chance of leaving a bullet stuck in the bore.

After you come up with a good load, you can shoot small game with your deer rifle all summer and be even more of a deadeye than you already are.

Good hunting.

[blackhawk44]

I have a couple to us in a Contender carbine .223 barrel. The .22 LR works fine, very usable. The .22 mag accuracy is near useless. Your best bets are either a good .22 sidearm or squib loads for the rifle.