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[two bit okie]

what are the current rules on out of state purchase of long guns. specifically, If I, as an arzona resident go to nevada, virginia, or nc, where my kids live, can I legally purchase a model 94 from either person, pawn shop or gun shop and take it with me.

[mescalero1]

This is a good way to run afoul of the law.

[mikld]

In most states, I believe, you need to be a resident of the state where purchase is made. But, then again, I come from CA where all gun laws are distorted.

[Don McDowell]

For the most part you can buy a long gun in a state that borders your home state. Beyond that you need to go thru the proper channels of having it shipped to your local ffl.
I know of a time or two when a persons local ffl gave the person traveling out of state a signed copy of his ffl. That way the shipment could be made and the gun awaiting the buyer when he got home,if a good deal was found.

[Pete44ru]

The law has changed, and anyone considering buying/selling firearms across a state line needs to keep abreast of the latest developments - from the horse's mouth (BATF, available at http://www.nra-ila.org , or google " nra/ila gun laws" for a direct link)

It is now legal under Federal Law for a citizen of good standing, etc, to purchase a LONG gun ( no handguns) directly in ANY state other than their state of residence, provided:

1) It's legal in the state of purchase ( IIRC, Fla doesn't allow non-residents to purchase anything, for instance)

2) It's legal according to the laws of the state where the buyer resides (some states have waiting periods/etc for their residents, which apply wherever they buy)

3) The direct long gun purchase be from an FFL of the state in which the purchase occurs.

4) The firearm purchased must be legal to own in the state of the buyer's residence. ( some states don't allow certain long guns, for instance)

5) The effected FFL must submit a completed NICS check on the buyer, which must be approved prior to the sale.

FWIW -

If you sell any firearm to ANYONE in another state, it better be to an FFL there.

You can purchase a handgun from out of your state of residence, but it must be transferred (read: shipped) by an FFL from there, to an FFL in your state of residence - with attendant fees.

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[pokey]

The law has changed, and anyone considering buying/selling firearms across a state line needs to keep abreast of the latest developments - from the horse's mouth (BATF, available at http://www.nra-ila.org , or google " nra/ila gun laws" for a direct link)

It is now legal under Federal Law for a citizen of good standing, etc, to purchase a LONG gun ( no handguns) directly in ANY state other than their state of residence, provided:

1) It's legal in the state of purchase ( IIRC, Fla doesn't allow non-residents to purchase anything, for instance)

2) It's legal according to the laws of the state where the buyer resides (some states have waiting periods/etc for their residents, which apply wherever they buy)

3) The direct long gun purchase be from an FFL of the state in which the purchase occurs.

4) The firearm purchase be legal to own in the state of the buyer's residence. ( some states don't allow certain long guns, for instance)

5) The effected FFL must submit a completed NICS check on the buyer, which must be approved prior to the sale.

FWIW -

If you sell any firearm to someone in another state, it better be to an FFL there.

You can purchase a handgun from out of your state of residence, but it must be transferred by an FFL from there, to an FFL in your state of residence - with attendant fees.

.

thanks, i was wondering as well.

[Gun Smith]

The way to go may be to buy the gun from wherever you are, and have it sent FFL to FFL in your state. Before you go, check around to see if an FFL holder will give you a copy of his license to take with you. Note: Not all FFL's will do this!

[J Miller]

Walmart here in IL used to have a map that showed all 50 states with those IL residents could buy from hi-lighted. I don't have a copy of it, but I remember AZ was hi-lighted even though they do not have a waiting period on long guns.

Joe

[Nate Kiowa Jones]

The law has changed, and anyone considering buying/selling firearms across a state line needs to keep abreast of the latest developments - from the horse's mouth (BATF, available at http://www.nra-ila.org , or google " nra/ila gun laws" for a direct link)

It is now legal under Federal Law for a citizen of good standing, etc, to purchase a LONG gun ( no handguns) directly in ANY state other than their state of residence, provided:

1) It's legal in the state of purchase ( IIRC, Fla doesn't allow non-residents to purchase anything, for instance)

2) It's legal according to the laws of the state where the buyer resides (some states have waiting periods/etc for their residents, which apply wherever they buy)

3) The direct long gun purchase be from an FFL of the state in which the purchase occurs.

4) The firearm purchased must be legal to own in the state of the buyer's residence. ( some states don't allow certain long guns, for instance)

5) The effected FFL must submit a completed NICS check on the buyer, which must be approved prior to the sale.

FWIW -

If you sell any firearm to ANYONE in another state, it better be to an FFL there.

You can purchase a handgun from out of your state of residence, but it must be transferred (read: shipped) by an FFL from there, to an FFL in your state of residence - with attendant fees.

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I would add, the above applies only if the unlicensed person travels to another state and purchses from an FFL in that state. It is still against the law for that unlicensed person to travel to another state and to take possion of a firearm from another unlicensed person.

From the ATF's FAQ's

Q: To whom may an unlicensed person transfer firearms under the GCA?
A person may sell a firearm to an unlicensed resident of his State, if he does not know or have reasonable cause to believe the person is prohibited from receiving or possessing firearms under Federal law. A person may loan or rent a firearm to a resident of any State for temporary use for lawful sporting purposes, if he does not know or have reasonable cause to believe the person is prohibited from receiving or possessing firearms under Federal law. A person may sell or transfer a firearm to a licensee in any State. However, a firearm other than a curio or relic may not be transferred interstate to a licensed collector.

[18 U.S.C. 922(a)(3) and (5), 922(d), 27 CFR 478.29 and 478.30]

Q: From whom may an unlicensed person acquire a firearm under the GCA?
A person may only acquire a firearm within the person’s own State, except that he or she may purchase or otherwise acquire a rifle or shotgun, in person, at a licensee’s premises in any State, provided the sale complies with State laws applicable in the State of sale and the State where the purchaser resides. A person may borrow or rent a firearm in any State for temporary use for lawful sporting purposes.

[18 U.S.C. 922(a)(3) and (5), 922(b)(3), 27 CFR 478.29 and 478.30]

The grey area here is the inheritance of family firearms from out of your state. The ATF would have you receive them through an FFL but I have never heard of them actually pushing the issue.

[Bruce]

Pete,

I Florida, anyone (legal type) can purchase a long gun. Handguns are little more involved.

[2571]

[quote="Pete44ru"]The law has changed, and anyone considering buying/selling firearms across a state line needs to keep abreast of the latest developments - from the horse's mouth (BATF, . . .) Quote


Wrong end of the horse.

[crs]

On the other hand, since your kids know you are a gun enthusiast, why not ask them to give you your desired rifle as a gift.
The IRS allows gift of $10,000 or so without any tax penalties.

[Leverdude]

I'v bought a few guns from shops in NH and I live in CT. No problem. Never did a personal transaction like that, but if theres no paper & we dont register guns I dont know if I'd sweat it any.

[Pete44ru]

[I would add, the above applies only if the unlicensed person travels to another state and purchses from an FFL in that state. It is still against the law for that unlicensed person to travel to another state and to take possion of a firearm from another unlicensed person.]

That's what I stated, Nate - I'm sorry if the way I listed the provisos was confusing.

"It is now legal under Federal Law to purchase a LONG gun ( no handguns) directly in ANY state other than their state of residence, provided:

3) The direct long gun purchase be from an FFL of the state in which the purchase occurs."

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[O.S.O.K.]

This is one of those areas where we have let the federal govt. go out of bounds IMHO. Anyone should be able to purchase a firearm anywhere. Anything less is an infringement.

You might argue about prior felonies, etc. but that's not enumerated in the Constitution - strictly speaking. As-is creating a "license" to sell and trade in arms and just about every other gun law that is NOT a Constitutional Amendment.

I know this comment is OT to the thread some, but its the first thing that popped into my brain when reading down the thread...

[Nate Kiowa Jones]

[I would add, the above applies only if the unlicensed person travels to another state and purchses from an FFL in that state. It is still against the law for that unlicensed person to travel to another state and to take possion of a firearm from another unlicensed person.]

That's what I stated, Nate - I'm sorry if the way I listed the provisos was confusing.

"It is now legal under Federal Law to purchase a LONG gun ( no handguns) directly in ANY state other than their state of residence, provided:

3) The direct long gun purchase be from an FFL of the state in which the purchase occurs."

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No apoligy needed and I wouldn't say it was confusing. ATF's 3) just doesn't seem to cover the point that well. The point being an unlicensed person is not supposed to buy/sell out of state from/to another unlicensed person.

I had this very same thing come up recently. A local older gentleman came into possession of a gun by way of a friend that passed away and he wanted to send it out of state to his friends surviving relative. I showed him these ATF rules and told him the same thing I posted about the grey area and ATF's enforcement. I'm not sure how it all played out but I got the impression the surviving relative didn't want to do the 4473 paper work to receive the gun.

[crs]

What OSOK said +1.