Mucho Bad Hombre! Old photo.

Barcelona Rick · Post by **Barcelona Rick** » Mon Feb 15, 2010 2:14 pm

RR7...any idea of the photos date ?? Looks like a Colt 1878 in the holster.....great photo as usual...

jumbeaux

Modoc ED · Post by **Modoc ED** » Mon Feb 15, 2010 2:20 pm

Ya can't fool me!!! That's Hobie

on the way to Acapulco.

Cool photo.

rangerider7 · Post by **rangerider7** » Mon Feb 15, 2010 2:27 pm

I would say during the Mexican Revolution, 1910-1916 or so.

deerwhacker444 · Post by **deerwhacker444** » Mon Feb 15, 2010 2:31 pm

Is that Buck Elliot..?

awp101 · Post by **awp101** » Mon Feb 15, 2010 2:58 pm

deerwhacker444 wrote:Is that Buck Elliot..?

I was thinking Terry...

Modoc ED · Post by **Modoc ED** » Mon Feb 15, 2010 3:35 pm

awp101 wrote:
deerwhacker444 wrote:Is that Buck Elliot..?

I was thinking Terry...

Can't be Terry. That guy can see his belt buckle and Terry hasn't seen his belt buckle in years much less his toes.

I'm still betting on Hobie.

Nath · Post by **Nath** » Mon Feb 15, 2010 3:40 pm

Modoc ED wrote:
awp101 wrote:
deerwhacker444 wrote:Is that Buck Elliot..?

I was thinking Terry...
Can't be Terry. That guy can see his belt buckle and Terry hasn't seen his belt buckle in years much less his toes. I'm still betting on Hobie.

Yeah but he was younger in 1917!

Nath

cshold · Post by **cshold** » Mon Feb 15, 2010 3:54 pm

awp101 wrote:
deerwhacker444 wrote:Is that Buck Elliot..?

I was thinking Terry...

My vote

J Miller · Post by **J Miller** » Mon Feb 15, 2010 5:16 pm

I was looking at that guys boots. They look nothing like what we have today. It looks like there is a seam up the front and a buckle or belt strap about 6" from the top. With no real defined toe like current designs have either.
Any body got any better pics of this kind of boot?

That poor hombre looks about as worn as his 1894 SRC.

Joe

Blaine · Post by **Blaine** » Mon Feb 15, 2010 5:24 pm

He'd slit your throat while eating a tortilla full of week old beans just to have something to moisten up the beans......

Mike D. · Post by **Mike D.** » Mon Feb 15, 2010 5:36 pm

He's wearin' Messkin cavalry boots, I reckon.

Buck Elliott · Post by **Buck Elliott** » Mon Feb 15, 2010 6:52 pm

Nah, it ain't me... Back in them days, I looked worse than that...

Modoc ED · Post by **Modoc ED** » Mon Feb 15, 2010 7:34 pm

J Miller wrote:I was looking at that guys boots. They look nothing like what we have today. It looks like there is a seam up the front and a buckle or belt strap about 6" from the top. With no real defined toe like current designs have either.
Any body got any better pics of this kind of boot?

That poor hombre looks about as worn as his 1894 SRC.

Joe

Joe I think those boots are open on the sides above the buckle so that they can be folded down in order to shorten them.

I had a pair of Tony Lama boots about 20-years ago that were stitched right up the middle from the start of the toe right at the sole all the way up to the top of the boot and in the back from the top of the heel at the sole right up to the top of the boot. The toes were more rounded (not suitabble for killing cockroaches in a corner) than most pointy-toed cowboy boots and had a more normal toe than cowboy boots.

Charles · Post by **Charles** » Mon Feb 15, 2010 7:40 pm

Those really are not boots. They are leather leggins worn over heavy shoes. There will be a series of staps and buckles on the outside. In the photo, you can only see the top left well. Far more common in Mexico en "aquel dias" than high top boots. Most of the photos of Pancho Villa show him wearing them.

airedaleman · Post by **airedaleman** » Mon Feb 15, 2010 7:43 pm

Muy malo, es verdad...

Pistola un Smith y Wesson producto?

(My German is better than my Spanish.)

Borregos · Post by **Borregos** » Mon Feb 15, 2010 8:08 pm

AQnother good one rr7, keep 'em coming

J Miller · Post by **J Miller** » Mon Feb 15, 2010 8:16 pm

Charles wrote:Those really are not boots. They are leather leggins worn over heavy shoes. There will be a series of staps and buckles on the outside. In the photo, you can only see the top left well. Far more common in Mexico en "aquel dias" than high top boots. Most of the photos of Pancho Villa show him wearing them.

Charles,
Thanks for the info. I see what you're talking about now.

Joe

Pathfinder09 · Post by **Pathfinder09** » Mon Feb 15, 2010 8:22 pm

Those are leather spats that go over the shoes or boots.. Looks like the real deal alright. Moi Mallo!

AJMD429 · Post by **AJMD429** » Mon Feb 15, 2010 9:20 pm

Modoc ED wrote:Ya can't fool me!!! That's Hobie on the way to Acapulco.

...another keyboard down...

piller · Post by **piller** » Mon Feb 15, 2010 9:23 pm

Isn't he a little too young to be TERRY?

wilko · Post by **wilko** » Mon Feb 15, 2010 9:39 pm

Modoc ED wrote:Ya can't fool me!!! That's Hobie on the way to Acapulco.

Cool photo.

LOL awesome !!!

keep the pics comming cuz i absolutely love those !

pokey · Post by **pokey** » Mon Feb 15, 2010 10:39 pm

Modoc ED wrote:Ya can't fool me!!! That's Hobie on the way to Acapulco.

Cool photo.

on the way back, more like.

Nate Kiowa Jones · Post by **Nate Kiowa Jones** » Mon Feb 15, 2010 11:59 pm

J Miller wrote:
Charles wrote:Those really are not boots. They are leather leggins worn over heavy shoes. There will be a series of staps and buckles on the outside. In the photo, you can only see the top left well. Far more common in Mexico en "aquel dias" than high top boots. Most of the photos of Pancho Villa show him wearing them.
Charles,
Thanks for the info. I see what you're talking about now.

Joe

Also known as BOTA's

rangerider7 · Post by **rangerider7** » Tue Feb 16, 2010 12:11 am

Steve, looks like you picked up a few things from the "Wild Rose". I would reconized them anywhere.

Post by **Ysabel Kid** » Tue Feb 16, 2010 8:01 am

Modoc ED wrote:Ya can't fool me!!! That's Hobie on the way to Acapulco.

Cool photo.

Nate Kiowa Jones · Post by **Nate Kiowa Jones** » Tue Feb 16, 2010 9:48 am

rangerider7 wrote:Steve, looks like you picked up a few things from the "Wild Rose". I would reconized them anywhere.

Those folks do some outstanding work. Almost more art than function.

mikld · Post by **mikld** » Tue Feb 16, 2010 10:25 am

Looks like my tio Ramon. Disappeared around Deming, NM way back...

J Miller · Post by **J Miller** » Tue Feb 16, 2010 11:20 am

Nate Kiowa Jones wrote:
J Miller wrote:
Charles wrote:Those really are not boots. They are leather leggins worn over heavy shoes. There will be a series of staps and buckles on the outside. In the photo, you can only see the top left well. Far more common in Mexico en "aquel dias" than high top boots. Most of the photos of Pancho Villa show him wearing them.
Charles,
Thanks for the info. I see what you're talking about now.

Joe
Also known as BOTA's

Steve,

The term "Botas" I had heard before, but I didn't know what it referred to. Now I do. I love educational threads.

Joe

gamekeeper · Post by **gamekeeper** » Tue Feb 16, 2010 11:51 am

I can't believe no one has mentioned "Stinkin' Badges"

Great photo RR keep 'em coming.

KCSO · Post by **KCSO** » Tue Feb 16, 2010 4:05 pm

The square butt on the gun looks to be S and W or some such. Hard to tell w/o blowing it up and checking.

Nate Kiowa Jones · Post by **Nate Kiowa Jones** » Tue Feb 16, 2010 4:58 pm

BTW, except for the hat, I think he looks like Morgan Freeman from the movie Unforgiven.

Meeteetse · Post by **Meeteetse** » Tue Feb 16, 2010 10:08 pm

Thanks for the picture and thanks to everyone for their informative comments and historical data. I have always believed you should learn something new each day, and for me, this is it. . . . . .

Booger Bill · Post by **Booger Bill** » Tue Feb 16, 2010 11:24 pm

The spanish version of richard boone. Almost as pretty too!

FWiedner · Post by **FWiedner** » Wed Feb 17, 2010 12:58 am

Those "botas" things look like they might go better over light loafers, not heavy boots.

Charles · Post by **Charles** » Wed Feb 17, 2010 11:06 am

bota/botas means boot/boots in Spanish. It can also be one of those leather boot looking thing we drink Jerez (Sherry) out of at the Corrido (bullfight). Women who are with the program, show up at the bullfight dressed in a red or black staw skimmer and matching bolero jacket. Either pants or skirt on the bottom half. The gentleman can wear anything he wants, but must have the bota filled. Ole!!!

Probably several other "bootie" looking things called botas as well.

Oh yes... I have never seen those floppy leg things anywhere but in the movies. I have never seen a real Southwestern Cowboy or Mexican Vaquero wear them. Maybe they wear such outlandish things up where Terry and JT live, but those guys are not cowboys but "buckaroos". Buckaroos for Pete"s sake!!!! They are Rexall Wrangler attire for sure and for certain.

mescalero1 · Post by **mescalero1** » Wed Feb 17, 2010 11:18 am

mikld,
We need more info,
a LOT of people have disappeared around Deming,
still do!

Charles · Post by **Charles** » Wed Feb 17, 2010 11:24 am

Most of the missing people in Deming can be found in Palomas drinking margaritas at the Tienda Rosa/ Pink Store. Those gawd awful things are made from bust head tequila and the Mexican version of Mountain Dew. They only cost $1.00 each and some folks have been sitting at the same table for over ten years running. After the fifth one, you don't have enough brain cells left to find your way home.

Viva la raza!!

mescalero1 · Post by **mescalero1** » Wed Feb 17, 2010 11:55 am

Si,
Yo Say!

kimwcook · Post by **kimwcook** » Wed Feb 17, 2010 3:17 pm

Oye, mucho barachos.

mescalero1 · Post by **mescalero1** » Wed Feb 17, 2010 11:28 pm

That is guilt by association.