Beginning to get sick over the Taylor's & Company rifle
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Beginning to get sick over the Taylor's & Company rifle
First problem was a flashing left on the lever that would cut your finger. It was so sharp it would cut paper. So I got mad and took the dremel to it. Well, due to shoulder surgery I just got to shoot it yesterday. 4 shots in a 4 inch vertical string at 25 yds. It refuses to feed correctly. Sometimes a cartridge comes out onto the carrier, sometimes not. Sometimes when it does, it stovepipes as the bolt is closed. It is a pretty $850 piece of JUNK. What are other peoples experiences with these? How is their customer service?
It is a Taylor's & Company Takedown 92 in .44-40
It is a Taylor's & Company Takedown 92 in .44-40
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Re: Beginning to get sick over the Taylor's & Company rifle
OF WHAT ARE YOU SPEAKING ???
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Whatever model and caliber it is, return it to Taylor's & Company and have them make it right.
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And don't forget to slap yerself on yer forehead and say, "I dunno how the fricking dremel tool mark got on the rifle!!! I swear I don't."J Miller wrote:Whatever model and caliber it is, return it to Taylor's & Company and have them make it right.
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ALWAYS make "them" make it right.
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Re: Beginning to get sick over the Taylor's & Company rifle
It also helps them know they have problems. That doesn't happen when you fix it yourself. Be nice at first and see if they won't send you a pick up tag to have it shipped to them at their expense. The bad news about them has just been started here and now. Give them a chance to clear their name and everybody will be happy. You might let them know that the fact that this problem exists is already on the net and you'd like to be able to report a happy ending.
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They definitely will know I have problems. I just now thought to inspect the fired cases. It blows them out straight, like a .44 spcl. to .459-.460 outside neck dia. the old Marlin 94 leaves them at .440 outside neck dia. Something sure is not right!
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Unfortunately, the Romans still haven't figured out the '92. At least, the ones MAKING them haven't.
Had a Taylor's '92 take-down rifle that just would NOT behave, no matter what I did to or with it. Had another that worked fine -- most times. (Both in .45 Colt.)
I still like the Miroku '92s best of all.
Except for the originals...
Taylor's should make it right.
Had a Taylor's '92 take-down rifle that just would NOT behave, no matter what I did to or with it. Had another that worked fine -- most times. (Both in .45 Colt.)
I still like the Miroku '92s best of all.
Except for the originals...
Taylor's should make it right.
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Re: Beginning to get sick over the Taylor's & Company rifle
Sounds like you should get a new rifle from them to replace it. That is not good!
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Re: Beginning to get sick over the Taylor's & Company rifle
Hey, at least I finally got smart enough to figure out it is a .44 magnum chamber with a .430 bore. Now the question is what to do with/about it. I know the Taylor's take down is not offered in .44 magnum, but Rossi offered the 92 copies in .44 mag so I assume the action is strong enough?? If it is safe I would just keep it and re-stamp it to 44 mag.
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Re: Beginning to get sick over the Taylor's & Company rifle
F.O.F.,
I'm sure the rifle is strong enough for the 44 Mag cartridge.
What I'd do is a chamber cast to verify it was completely a 44 Mag chamber and not part 44-40 and part 44 Mag.
As you can see there is a big difference between the 44-40 and 44 Mag cartridges and chamber.
The 44-40 cartridge really shouldn't fit in the .44 Mag chamber.
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I'm sure the rifle is strong enough for the 44 Mag cartridge.
What I'd do is a chamber cast to verify it was completely a 44 Mag chamber and not part 44-40 and part 44 Mag.
As you can see there is a big difference between the 44-40 and 44 Mag cartridges and chamber.
The 44-40 cartridge really shouldn't fit in the .44 Mag chamber.
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Re: Beginning to get sick over the Taylor's & Company rifle
RMiller, I think you may be on to something with the part .44-40, part .44 mag. The chamber measured with calipers checks .471 just inside the leading edge which would be 44-40 measurement. What a mess!
Re: Beginning to get sick over the Taylor's & Company rifle
NKJ is reviewing the same manufacturer's (Armi Sport/Chiappa) new 1886 effort with them. Maybe he can weigh in here and perhaps follow up with them on this as well if approppriate.
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+1 with any business!Hobie wrote:ALWAYS make "them" make it right.
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sad state of affairs. it seems like taylors and the mossberg levers are selling repro guns that they hope people will never shoot.
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I am really confused. I know it can't be a .44 mag. (that is what I get for jumping to conclusions)...I know better.
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Re: Beginning to get sick over the Taylor's & Company rifle
"That's right, Billy, I'm good with it. I hit what I shoot at, and I'm fast!"-Lucas McCain, c1882.
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Re: Beginning to get sick over the Taylor's & Company rifle
Sorry for double posting. Same rifle same Family, FOF is my Father. Later, JAP
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Re: Beginning to get sick over the Taylor's & Company rifle
This rifle will be shipped to their gunsmith for inspection. I will post the result when known.
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Re: Beginning to get sick over the Taylor's & Company rifle
Promises and apologies from Taylor's and from Chiappa, but nothing else so far. lip service is cheap.
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And one would think that a simple machine with few moving parts that's been around for well over a century could be duplicated without a hitch.Buck Elliott wrote:Unfortunately, the Romans still haven't figured out the '92. At least, the ones MAKING them haven't.
Hey, have you heard how many...
Re: Beginning to get sick over the Taylor's & Company rifle
Now I know why I waited for a miroku model 92 to show up that I could a ford. No issues with mine except time to go shoot and finding ammo.
They are hard to find but well worth the search as they do work and are verrrrrrrrrrrrrry smooth actions and accurate to shoot.
Want to build a custom model 92 and will wait for another miroku to show up that is just a parts gun to do the custom mods to.
They are hard to find but well worth the search as they do work and are verrrrrrrrrrrrrry smooth actions and accurate to shoot.
Want to build a custom model 92 and will wait for another miroku to show up that is just a parts gun to do the custom mods to.
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shdwlkr wrote:Now I know why I waited for a miroku model 92 to show up that I could a ford. No issues with mine except time to go shoot and finding ammo.
They are hard to find but well worth the search as they do work and are verrrrrrrrrrrrrry smooth actions and accurate to shoot.
Want to build a custom model 92 and will wait for another miroku to show up that is just a parts gun to do the custom mods to.
Try to find the Browning if you can. The Winchester has too many add-on lawyer parts to be reliable. Mostly fire control add-ons. Some folks are reporting failure to fire in the 92 and the 86 as well. (FWIW most all of those parts can be changed to either Browning or Rossi parts)
Several months back I posted some of my findings with the Chiappa/Armi Sport 92's. Basically it was the feeding issues mainly because of cartridge guide geometry. But there were other issues as well. Since I posted the Legacy Sports folks and Chiappa have contacted me. I have been consulting with Chiappa since then to remedy some of these issues. The bottom line is they are definitely interested in making a better gun. I plan to see them at the ShotShow for some updates.
I know some folks here don't think much about the Rossi 92's but think about this. All the folks that made the original 92's are long dead and gone. The folks with the most experience building 92's now are the Rossi folks. They have been doing it for 30 something years. They aren't finished as nice as the others but they don't cost twice as much either. To cut cost Rossi tends to not spend a lot of time fitting the parts and just using heavier than needed spring to overcome the poor fit. The parts have the correct geometry to function right they just aren't fitted well. But, they are easy to clean up and make run well.
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Re: Beginning to get sick over the Taylor's & Company rifle
First of all I think that Chiappa is Eyetie for feces. What you get back will be luck of the draw. I was he proud ??? owner of one of their Spencer carbines in 45 S and W. Well the magazine spring lasted through 1 full magazine before it collapsed. The breech block stop lasted another 12 rounds after that. I ended up sending it back for a refund after the second mag spring collapsed. The only worse guns made are marked Charter Arms, their rifles are so far off in chamer and bore it is pathetic. You really need to spend the extra bucks on Cimarron, at least they are 1/2 way concerned if you get a flub.
Re: Beginning to get sick over the Taylor's & Company rifle
Where is the rifle? Did Taylor's claim they had to send it back to Italy for examination rather than just replace it for you?Promises and apologies from Taylor's and from Chiappa, but nothing else so far. Lip service is cheap.
I tried a Rossi '92 from Davidson's and it was a rusty mess. Tried another in stainless and it had issues as well. Told them I was tired of Rossi's and to send me the Charles Daly '92 (Chiappa) they had on sale since there wasn't too much difference in price. Mine works just fine thus far, though I admit to only having about 200 rounds through it, and it's finish is simply lovely.
What I'd like to know more of is what Taylors has said to you and why they didn't simply replace it. Where exactly is the gun? It's been a month since your post and I should note that when I had to return a Ruger Old Army recently to correct several issues it took 8 weeks to turn it around so a month is not unheard of but I'd like to know more about this as I was considering Taylors for another buy.
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That's great because the supply of Japanese '92s has been erratic and now Winchester has buggered them with "updates" to boot. A steady line of really nice, quality 92's will sell at a predictable pace if they can get on with it.Legacy Sports folks and Chiappa have contacted me. I have been consulting with Chiappa since then to remedy some of these issues. The bottom line is they are definitely interested in making a better gun. I plan to see them at the ShotShow for some updates.
One item to bring up if you're so inclined: They need to work on their case coloring. Mine has a buttplate that is a joy to behold and the lever and forend cap aren't bad but the receiver is bland in that grey-brown way that so many of the Italian "case colored" guns are. Heck, I think even Rossi might be finishing better case colors these days. Another item that's unsatisfactory is the trigger. Mine has a stamped or rolled checkering on top that is just flat out terrible. Original '92 triggers that I've seen are rather nice and this isn't.
The action is great, the wood is very nice and the fit of the metal is all very nice. The chamber is a bit roomy at the rear (not as bad as a .44 Mag Rossi I tried) but it doesn't soot the cases at all with full power .45 Colt loads.
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Re: Beginning to get sick over the Taylor's & Company rifle
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I have had no issues with my miroku 92 or 86. So I guess I got some good ones not saying I won't but then any firearm can have issues after a few thousand rounds fired down range.
I looked at all the others before getting the Miroku and they all have issues so what are you going to do. I also have a model 92 original action that you don't want to work on either. So even originals are the same all have issues.
I have had no issues with my miroku 92 or 86. So I guess I got some good ones not saying I won't but then any firearm can have issues after a few thousand rounds fired down range.
I looked at all the others before getting the Miroku and they all have issues so what are you going to do. I also have a model 92 original action that you don't want to work on either. So even originals are the same all have issues.
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The rifle is waiting for shipping orders from Chiappa's gunsmith at their repair center. An email to moodyholler (my son) from Taylor's and one from Susanna Chiappa both promise the problem will be corrected. On Dec 4th, Chiappa promised a barrel within 15 days. The gunsmith called next day and said he would call to have the gun shipped to him when he had a barrel. That has not happened yet, so we are still weeks or months before I can have my rifle and use it. I really try not to be the customer from hell, but when you have that much invested, it should be right and you shouldn't have to do without it for months. Am I getting antsy, yes I am. My son says "be calm, they will take care of it"....so I am trying, but it's getting harder.
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You've been unable to use a brand new rifle you dropped a good sum of money on for nearly two months, with no satisfaction in sight. Totally inexcusable.
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Re: Beginning to get sick over the Taylor's & Company rifle
I didn't say they are all bad. What I said is they have too many unnessasary add-on liability parts that make some of these guns not too reliable. I would add too many of these parts are small and delicate. History has shown that these type parts in a firearm tend to not stand the test of time. In a 100 years or less many of those guns will be out of service.shdwlkr wrote:Nate Kiowa Jones
I have had no issues with my miroku 92 or 86. So I guess I got some good ones not saying I won't but then any firearm can have issues after a few thousand rounds fired down range.
I looked at all the others before getting the Miroku and they all have issues so what are you going to do. I also have a model 92 original action that you don't want to work on either. So even originals are the same all have issues.
Also,you said,
I don't understand that statement. Did I tell you I wouldn't work on it?I also have a model 92 original action that you don't want to work on either.
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I bought a Chiappa Model 92 takedown here in Australia earlier this year.
To cut a long story short, I got my money back.
The internal machining was so bad that it did not feed properly.
I disassembled it and took pics of all the parts and sent them to Chiappa in Italy and the Australian importers.
Still have not heard from Chiappa but the Australian importers (Nioa Arms) answered me within 24 hours, had a replacement rifle sent for my inspection within a week and when I refused it as well they gave me back my money.
Those guns look great.
A dealer here in stdney told me he has trouble with one in every three he sells!!!!
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To cut a long story short, I got my money back.
The internal machining was so bad that it did not feed properly.
I disassembled it and took pics of all the parts and sent them to Chiappa in Italy and the Australian importers.
Still have not heard from Chiappa but the Australian importers (Nioa Arms) answered me within 24 hours, had a replacement rifle sent for my inspection within a week and when I refused it as well they gave me back my money.
Those guns look great.
A dealer here in stdney told me he has trouble with one in every three he sells!!!!
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All I can say then is don't look inside a Rossi! Sheesh, those things are rough as a cob and I've seen 'em full of rust to boot. Plenty of folks enjoying them nonetheless...The internal machining was so bad that it did not feed properly....I disassembled it and took pics of all the parts and sent them to Chiappa in Italy and the Australian importers....Still have not heard from Chiappa but the Australian importers (Nioa Arms) answered me within 24 hours, had a replacement rifle sent for my inspection within a week and when I refused it as well they gave me back my money....Those guns look great.
And yes, they DO look great which is a huge step in the right direction in my opinion because you can have a good smith like Nate slick a Rossi but they still look awful sometimes (not all of 'em, but some are just flat out horrible). I haven't looked inside a Miroku but that would be very interesting given what I've seen inside the other replicas. I assume they're nice but it would be interesting to see.
One thing that's really hurting the Italian products at this time is the current exchange rate, which makes them $800 guns instead of $500 guns (in The States). One might over look some roughness in a bargain priced arm but when it gets up into premium territory it's expected to be flawless and the Italians don't seem to be able to deliver on that. Their spotty quality control, which has been an Italian gun industry albatross for all of the years I've been shooting now (decades) continues its' run. Go to a black powder forum and talk to those guys about the revolvers! Sheesh, you have to work some of them new out of the box to get 'em to time correctly and function without tearing themselves up and everyone knows it. I had a Pietta 1851 brasser once that was slicker than snot, the envy of everyone at the range and sold for far more than I paid for it...after I spent several days working it!
I've come to the conclusion that with the exception of the Japanese (who, like the Germans, invariably seem to make things right in the first place) the replica firearm industry is a hit and miss proposition that you have to be willing to deal with. Rugers, Berettas, Piettas, Ubertis, and Rossis - I've gotten bad copies of all of 'em. In the end I've always wound up with a good, serviceable arm by dealing with good wholesalers and good local dealers and sometimes I've been willing to put in some elbow grease to get 'em right.
It's good that your importer took care of you and I hope you wound up with something that suits.
It's also good to hear from several of you that Chiappa is concerned and actually trying to do better even if they're struggling a bit right now. Uberti and Pietta have both upped their game dramatically over the last decade and I suspect Chiappa will as well but I guess time will tell. In the mean time mine works great, is nice and slick, and eats anything I've fed it so I'm 1 for 1 when it comes to Chiappa.
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Re: Beginning to get sick over the Taylor's & Company rifle
While the early Rossis had a very dark, almost black stock and some quality control issues. The more recent Rossis of the past few years are actually pretty well made. The wood is much better now and they are stained at more moderate brown.olyinaz wrote:All I can say then is don't look inside a Rossi! Sheesh, those things are rough as a cob and I've seen 'em full of rust to boot. Plenty of folks enjoying them nonetheless...The internal machining was so bad that it did not feed properly....I disassembled it and took pics of all the parts and sent them to Chiappa in Italy and the Australian importers....Still have not heard from Chiappa but the Australian importers (Nioa Arms) answered me within 24 hours, had a replacement rifle sent for my inspection within a week and when I refused it as well they gave me back my money....Those guns look great.
Also, where they need to be precision they are, where they don't they aren't. Overall, they are well made and durable rifles. They aren't works of art, but rather working rifles that are made to shoot, not just to look at. This is to save cost so that the product can be sold at a reasonable price. No difference with the Marlins, Winchesters, etc.
As for rust, obviously there was something wrong at the receiving end (sat unprotected for a time, etc.) as no firearm should arrive rusty. Also, rust doesn't care about brand names and I've seen even the revered Colt AR15 delivered with rust because of improper handling at the dealer.
The issue with the Chiappa in my understanding is one of internal design. They aren't as experienced in levergun building as Rossi is and they need to work out the bugs. My understanding is that our Nate has provided them information / suggestions about possible improvements but hasn't heard anything back from them as to if or when they'll incorporate them.
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Re: Beginning to get sick over the Taylor's & Company rifle
I will once again recommend the Rossi's still available from Bud's Gun Shop - you can't beat the price and the example that I received is great!
I am seriously considering getting one more - 24" model. They have all of the upgrades - walnut stock, cressant buttplate, color case hardened receiver and octagon barrel. How can you go wrong for $386 shipped?
You can have it shipped to Nate and give it the deluxe treatment for far less total into the rifle than the Taylors are stock.
With these available - even at $500+, I wouldn't spend my money on a Chiappa.
I am seriously considering getting one more - 24" model. They have all of the upgrades - walnut stock, cressant buttplate, color case hardened receiver and octagon barrel. How can you go wrong for $386 shipped?
You can have it shipped to Nate and give it the deluxe treatment for far less total into the rifle than the Taylors are stock.
With these available - even at $500+, I wouldn't spend my money on a Chiappa.
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Re: Beginning to get sick over the Taylor's & Company rifle
It is now 2010 and we are still waiting for the call to ship to the service center...this is NOT the way to have repeat customers. Am I impatient? Yes I am! I really am trying to be fair, and be nice. Do you guys think fair and nice are going to work?
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UPDATE; still absolutely nothing. So tomorrow will start the THIRD MONTH.
I NOW HAVE THIS TO SAY. IF CHIAPPA'S REPAIR CENTER IS THAT FAR BEHIND, THEN THEY HAVE FAR TOO MANY PROBLEMS WITH THEIR PRODUCT, and I DON'T WANT ANOTHER CHIAPPA PRODUCT.
I am trying really hard to keep my cool.
I NOW HAVE THIS TO SAY. IF CHIAPPA'S REPAIR CENTER IS THAT FAR BEHIND, THEN THEY HAVE FAR TOO MANY PROBLEMS WITH THEIR PRODUCT, and I DON'T WANT ANOTHER CHIAPPA PRODUCT.
I am trying really hard to keep my cool.
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Re: Beginning to get sick over the Taylor's & Company rifle
UPDATE: the chiappa problem piece shipped to the repair center yesterday (01-14). Now we will see how long it is before it returns, and the quality of the repairs.
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FOF, good luck with your rifle. I recommend a used Marlin if you end up with your money back. I've had them from the 1890s to the 1990s, no problems.
You know, I'll bet your rifle is a .45 Colt marked .44-40. That would explain the straightened case, the lack of accuracy, and probably the feeding problem. The case mouth dimension you mentioned, .460 iirc, is about right for a .45.
If so, you are durned lucky it wasn't the other way around. I don't know that a .45 would chamber in a .44-40 (doubt it, but a .45 Schofield might), but it would be a heck of a mess if you could get it to fire.
You know, I'll bet your rifle is a .45 Colt marked .44-40. That would explain the straightened case, the lack of accuracy, and probably the feeding problem. The case mouth dimension you mentioned, .460 iirc, is about right for a .45.
If so, you are durned lucky it wasn't the other way around. I don't know that a .45 would chamber in a .44-40 (doubt it, but a .45 Schofield might), but it would be a heck of a mess if you could get it to fire.
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Re: Beginning to get sick over the Taylor's & Company rifle
More on the Never-ending Chiappa Saga..
After being told for weeks that the barrel was in customs, and then being notified the repair center had the barrel and to ship the rifle, TODAY WE GET AN EMAIL SAYING THERE IS CONFUSION IN ITALY, AND WHICH LENGTH BARREL DO WE NEED.
I will admit I am typing this while extremely mad, but I hate to be lied to, but it is obvious some one is lying here, and it darned well ain't ME.
If you are considering buying a Chiappa product, you may want to take this thread into consideration.
After being told for weeks that the barrel was in customs, and then being notified the repair center had the barrel and to ship the rifle, TODAY WE GET AN EMAIL SAYING THERE IS CONFUSION IN ITALY, AND WHICH LENGTH BARREL DO WE NEED.
I will admit I am typing this while extremely mad, but I hate to be lied to, but it is obvious some one is lying here, and it darned well ain't ME.
If you are considering buying a Chiappa product, you may want to take this thread into consideration.
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Re: Beginning to get sick over the Taylor's & Company rifle
You Sir are a far better Man than I. I have worked in customer service for 37 years. Taylor's long ago owed You an apology and a refund. They won't be getting any of My hard earned $$$. What a bunch of C**P.
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Re: Beginning to get sick over the Taylor's & Company rifle
Taylor's already gave the apology, and an offer to help make it right by offering a discount on another rifle. But said it was out of their hands to replace it, as Chiappa was already in the process of repair. Had I been Taylor's, I would have offered to replace the rifle with a choice of any equal value. But they didn't. I am the maddest at Chiappa, for putting out something like that to start with, and I also feel they should have replaced it immediatley. What can I say? live and learn. I will post again when the rifle is returned and test fired.
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Re: Beginning to get sick over the Taylor's & Company rifle
Been at the repair center a month, nothing yet....boy this is really customer service. I am beginning to lose my cool...going to be really hard to hang two more weeks before I blow.
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Re: Beginning to get sick over the Taylor's & Company rifle
Taylors has no customer service, except to say replace parts and the Italians make lousy repros . From personel experience,which I have noted before. This gets old since the same problems have been dicussed for yrs. Stay away from Taylors and the Italian gunmakers.
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Re: Beginning to get sick over the Taylor's & Company rifle
THE LATEST ON THE CHIAPPA/TAYLORS PROBLEM;
Notified today that there was a mixup at the warranty center and my barrel was used on another rifle (anyone believe that?). Now we start all over again with getting another barrel through the legal hoops (supposedly that is why it takes so long, even though the first message from Chiappa stated a barrel would be in the warranty center within 15 days) from Italy. Another two months or MORE..... I have waited a couple of hours to post this, hoping some of the MAD would work off, but it just gets worse. I feel like I got the shaft from Taylor's and Chiappa BOTH. I think anyone even thinking about buying Chiappa would benefit from reading this thread. This has gone on FAR TOO LONG and I HATE BEING LIED TO.
Notified today that there was a mixup at the warranty center and my barrel was used on another rifle (anyone believe that?). Now we start all over again with getting another barrel through the legal hoops (supposedly that is why it takes so long, even though the first message from Chiappa stated a barrel would be in the warranty center within 15 days) from Italy. Another two months or MORE..... I have waited a couple of hours to post this, hoping some of the MAD would work off, but it just gets worse. I feel like I got the shaft from Taylor's and Chiappa BOTH. I think anyone even thinking about buying Chiappa would benefit from reading this thread. This has gone on FAR TOO LONG and I HATE BEING LIED TO.
Re: Beginning to get sick over the Taylor's & Company rifle
Chiappa won't be getting any of my money. I am truly sorry for what has happened to you.
D. Brian Casady
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Quid Llatine Dictum Sit, Altum Viditur.
Advanced is being able to do the basics while your leg is on fire---Bill Jeans
Don't ever take a fence down until you know why it was put up---Robert Frost
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Re: Beginning to get sick over the Taylor's & Company rifle
Thanks for the warning.
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Re: Beginning to get sick over the Taylor's & Company rifle
In this era with the internet I cannot imagine how Taylors or Chiappa would allow this to go on. ................................... In my way of thinking Taylors haveing sold the gun in the first place is responsible 100%............let THEM wait on the gun to be fixed. I WOULD FORWARD THIS THREAD TO BOTH OF THEM.
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Re: Beginning to get sick over the Taylor's & Company rifle
Son was notified by phone yesterday that a barrel has been shipped. Expect 15 days transit, 7 days shop, 7 days shipping. Maybe I will have it by mid April. ( not sure if that is considering the two weeks in customs or not). He was also told to expect something extra in the box to make up for all the problems....We will see. Sure has been a long wait.
Re: Beginning to get sick over the Taylor's & Company rifle
It would have to REALLY be something! Sheesh...
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Oly
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Oly
I hope and pray someday the world will learn
That fires we don't put out will bigger burn
Johnny Wright