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POLITICS - Gun History

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GUN HISTORY
Whether you agree or not, it's an interesting lesson in history.

In 1929, the Soviet Union established gun control From 1929 to 1953, about 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

In 1911, Turkey established gun control. From 1915 to 1917, 1.5 million Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

Germany established gun control in 1938 and from 1939 to 1945, a total of 13 million Jews and others who were unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated.

China established gun control in 1935. From 1948 to 1952, 20 million political dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

Guatemala established gun control in 1964. From 1964 to 1981, 100,000 Mayan Indians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

Uganda established gun control in 1970. From 1971 to 1979, 300,000 Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

Cambodia established gun control in 1956. From 1975 to 1977, one million 'educated' people, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

Defenseless people rounded up and exterminated in the 20th Century because of gun control: 56 million.

It has now been 12 months since gun owners in Australia were forced by new law to surrender 640,381 personal firearms to be destroyed by their own government, a program costing Australia taxpayers more than $500 million dollars. The first year results are now in:

Australia-wide, homicides are up 3.2 percent Australia-wide, assaults are up 8.6 percent. Australia-wide, armed robberies are up 44 percent (yes, 44 percent. In the state of Victoria alone, homicides with firearms are now up 300 percent. Note, that while the law-abiding citizens turned them in, the criminals did not, and criminals still possess their guns! While figures over the previous 25 years showed a steady decrease in armed robbery with firearms, this has changed drastically upward in the past 12 months, since criminals now are guaranteed that their prey is unarmed. There has> also been a dramatic increase in break-ins and assaults of the ELDERLY. Australian politicians are at a loss to explain how public safety has decreased, after such, monumental effort, and expense was expended in successfully ridding Australian society of guns. The Australian experience and the other historical facts above prove it. You won't see this data on the American evening news or hear our president, governors or other politicians disseminating this information. Guns in the hands of honest citizens save lives and property and, yes, gun-control laws affect only the law-abiding citizens.

Take note my fellow Americans.....before it's too late! The next time someone talks in favor of gun control, please remind them of this history lesson. With guns, we are 'citizens'. Without them, we are 'subjects'. If you value your freedom, Please spread this anti-gun control message.
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Here Here! We went through the same thing in the UK when they took our handguns and scrapped them. Its funny how a target pistol is so dangerous that we are not allowed them yet no effort was made to remove guns from criminals! Perhaps its a bit like like taking candy from a baby compared to taking a bone from a pit bull! The government know which is easier and the spin they put on it makes the SHEEPLE think all is now well! :evil: :evil: :evil:
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Very enlightening and well put together
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Old Savage wrote:Defenseless people rounded up and exterminated in the 20th Century because of gun control: 56 million.
Your number is way, way off by an order of magnitude. These are merely the instances where well publicized disarmament took place in the late 20th century. But there are many other instances which were not so well publicized and where the people were not rounded up, but left in place and murdered by their own governments.

Murder of citizens by governments for political purposes is called "democide". It was the leading cause of death in the 20th century, surpassing all wars, crimes, and diseases combined. The definitive research on democide can be found here.

In almost all cases, the victims had been disarmed either long before (in some cases, over 100 years) or immediately before the democide took place. So, while the instances you mentioned are directly related to gun control in the 20th century, 3-4 times that many are indirectly related to gun control.

The method of extermination was not always quick, as the Russians and Chinese, as well as North Korea, show a predilection for starvation.
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Well done!
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Great post OS!!!
game keeper wrote:Here Here! We went through the same thing in the UK when they took our handguns and scrapped them. Its funny how a target pistol is so dangerous that we are not allowed them yet no effort was made to remove guns from criminals! Perhaps its a bit like like taking candy from a baby compared to taking a bone from a pit bull! The government know which is easier and the spin they put on it makes the SHEEPLE think all is now well! :evil: :evil: :evil:
That's because the true goal is never really "crime control" or "protecting the public", but rather - in every case - protecting the rulers and expanding their power over the people. :evil:
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FALPhil wrote:

The method of extermination was not always quick, as the Russians and Chinese, as well as North Korea, show a predilection for starvation.
Spot on FALPhil - I have used this website and data often in debates.

As for those countries "predilection for starvation", it is simply because bullets cost money, while starving millions is free... :cry:
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FALPhil wrote:
Old Savage wrote:Defenseless people rounded up and exterminated in the 20th Century because of gun control: 56 million.
Your number is way, way off by an order of magnitude. These are merely the instances where well publicized disarmament took place in the late 20th century. But there are many other instances which were not so well publicized and where the people were not rounded up, but left in place and murdered by their own governments.

Murder of citizens by governments for political purposes is called "democide". It was the leading cause of death in the 20th century, surpassing all wars, crimes, and diseases combined. The definitive research on democide can be found here.

In almost all cases, the victims had been disarmed either long before (in some cases, over 100 years) or immediately before the democide took place. So, while the instances you mentioned are directly related to gun control in the 20th century, 3-4 times that many are indirectly related to gun control.

The method of extermination was not always quick, as the Russians and Chinese, as well as North Korea, show a predilection for starvation.
Starving is cheap and easy and the Chinese have been using the method for 2-3000 years!
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