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the telegraphist
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WIN 92 25/20

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Have an opportunity to pick up a 1915 made 92 in very good condition with excellent bore, half mag, 24 inch octagonal barrel. The cal is 25/20. Rifle is all original no refinish etc. No experience with this cartridge, just wondering what its good for. Or should I wait for the 38/40 which I really would like. Asking price 1000 Australian which could probably negotiate a bit lower. For this country in the condition it is in thats a good price. Do I need a 25/20? The mind is struggling.
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Re: WIN 92 25/20

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Need is so subjective. I'm thinking there are plenty of critters down there that you might find the 25-20 useful for. good luck in your decision.
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Re: WIN 92 25/20

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the telegraphist wrote:Have an opportunity to pick up a 1915 made 92 in very good condition with excellent bore, half mag, 24 inch octagonal barrel. The cal is 25/20. Rifle is all original no refinish etc. No experience with this cartridge, just wondering what its good for. Or should I wait for the 38/40 which I really would like. Asking price 1000 Australian which could probably negotiate a bit lower. For this country in the condition it is in thats a good price. Do I need a 25/20? The mind is struggling.
Good morning. My brothers and I grew up with a 25-20 (albeit Savage bolt action) that our late father won in a raffle. It's a great cartridge if you know its limitations. Several whitetails fell to Dad's rifle as we were growing up. Nobody in the family back then reloaded, though, and even then (1950's) a box of ammo (50 cartridges) were pricey. New brass is available, at least from Remington on a seasonal basis though. If you pay attention to these little cartridges, they'll last a long time. Molds are available from Lyman and RCBS. The latter is a flatnose, gascheck model and a potful of lead certainly goes a long way in making up a pile of projectiles. As grade schoolers who hunted with family firearms, nobody with access to a 25-20 felt undergunned with this caliber, but then again, neither did anyone with their family's old 38-40. Since that time, gunrag writers and those who pray at their altar have badmouthed both cartridges as being inadequate for anything. I don't know what the asking price is for that 25-20 you describe, but it may be a deal. It sounds like it has a lot of character and class, and once you're set up to load cast bullets for it, it can be very cheap to shoot. I've never seen a kangaroo except in a zoo--but unless I'm mistaken somehow, they'd probably drop with a well-placed shot from a 25-20. How long you'd wait for a comparable 38-40 is anyone's guess. More to think about. If it were me, I'd probably snap the 25-20 up. When the 38-40 comes around, you can always sell or trade the 25-20 if you feel a need to. Just my opinion. Good luck.
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Re: WIN 92 25/20

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This is a very popular caliber & rifle combo in Cowboy Pistol Cartridge Silhouettes. Accurate, hard-hitting and mild recoil. I'd love to have one.
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Re: WIN 92 25/20

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Of course you need it, i have one made in 1918, dont think too long someone else will buy. Powder and lead lasts a long time tho
30/30 Winchester: Not accurate enough fer varmints, barely adequate for small deer; BUT In a 10" to 14" barrelled pistol; is good for moose/elk to 200 yards; ground squirrels to 300 metres

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Re: WIN 92 25/20

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What does "need" have to do with it? :D

If you want the rifle and you have the cake, stop fretting and just buy the darn thing and live happily ever after. :wink:
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Re: WIN 92 25/20

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Buy it. You will be sorry if you don't. I have a remington pump made in 1924 that used to be a bank guard gun. the 60gr. ammo is pretty hot but a lot of fun, it's one of my favorite rifles.

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Re: WIN 92 25/20

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Model 92's in Australia are hard to find with a good bore and in original unaltered condition.I like both the 25-20 and the 38-40 I would get the rifle that is is the better condition which sounds like the 25-20. You will look at sometimes 50 to a 100 92's before you can find one with an exceptional bore especially in Australia were most of the bores are worn out or badly neglected. If you don't buy the 25-20 you will forever be kicking yourself for letting it slip away.You will pay over $1,500 for a Marlin Cowboy or a Chiappa copy in OZ.I would rather buy something with a bit of history than a newer version. You will not regret it if it is as good as you mention.The brass and projectiles are readily available for reloading so no problem there,to me the 25-20 is like a big 22 Magnum but more versatile.
Good Luck

Here is my old posting of a model 1892 circa 1913 all original with a 98% bore. The only thing is years ago some numnuts drilled and taped the side for a receiver scope mount! but for the $250 i paid for it it was still a bargain
http://www.levergunscommunity.com/viewt ... =1&t=27351

Also My favorite 92 a 32-20 Winchester with an original Winchester stainless steel barrel,another old posting
http://www.levergunscommunity.com/viewt ... =1&t=27354
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Washita
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Re: WIN 92 25/20

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Nicknack wrote:Model 92's in Australia are hard to find with a good bore and in original unaltered condition.I like both the 25-20 and the 38-40 I would get the rifle that is is the better condition which sounds like the 25-20. You will look at sometimes 50 to a 100 92's before you can find one with an exceptional bore especially in Australia were most of the bores are worn out or badly neglected. If you don't buy the 25-20 you will forever be kicking yourself for letting it slip away.You will pay over $1,500 for a Marlin Cowboy or a Chiappa copy in OZ.I would rather buy something with a bit of history than a newer version. You will not regret it if it is as good as you mention.The brass and projectiles are readily available for reloading so no problem there,to me the 25-20 is like a big 22 Magnum but more versatile.
Good Luck

Here is my old posting of a model 1892 circa 1913 all original with a 98% bore. The only thing is years ago some numnuts drilled and taped the side for a receiver scope mount! but for the $250 i paid for it it was still a bargain
http://www.levergunscommunity.com/viewt ... =1&t=27351

Also My favorite 92 a 32-20 Winchester with an original Winchester stainless steel barrel,another old posting
http://www.levergunscommunity.com/viewt ... =1&t=27354
Beautiful rifles. I especially like the .25-20 with the button magazine, my favorite look for a 92. Wouldn't it be nice to see Rossi come out with a 92 having a half-round barrel, button mag and CCH receiver in a small CF cal. like, say, .32 H&R or .327 Magnum? I'd be first in line to buy one of these puppies!
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Re: WIN 92 25/20

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Washita wrote:
Nicknack wrote:Model 92's in Australia are hard to find with a good bore and in original unaltered condition.I like both the 25-20 and the 38-40 I would get the rifle that is is the better condition which sounds like the 25-20. You will look at sometimes 50 to a 100 92's before you can find one with an exceptional bore especially in Australia were most of the bores are worn out or badly neglected. If you don't buy the 25-20 you will forever be kicking yourself for letting it slip away.You will pay over $1,500 for a Marlin Cowboy or a Chiappa copy in OZ.I would rather buy something with a bit of history than a newer version. You will not regret it if it is as good as you mention.The brass and projectiles are readily available for reloading so no problem there,to me the 25-20 is like a big 22 Magnum but more versatile.
Good Luck

Here is my old posting of a model 1892 circa 1913 all original with a 98% bore. The only thing is years ago some numnuts drilled and taped the side for a receiver scope mount! but for the $250 i paid for it it was still a bargain
http://www.levergunscommunity.com/viewt ... =1&t=27351

Also My favorite 92 a 32-20 Winchester with an original Winchester stainless steel barrel,another old posting
http://www.levergunscommunity.com/viewt ... =1&t=27354
Beautiful rifles. I especially like the .25-20 with the button magazine, my favorite look for a 92. Wouldn't it be nice to see Rossi come out with a 92 having a half-round barrel, button mag and CCH receiver in a small CF cal. like, say, .32 H&R or .327 Magnum? I'd be first in line to buy one of these puppies!
Why not a Rossi in 25-20 or 32-20, or even 38-40? They already offer a 44-40, and the rest would just make the family complete. Components, dies, and molds are all available for these calibers, and the 92 was originally designed for them all. Should be minimal feeding problems with these bottleneck cartridges.
Washita
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Re: WIN 92 25/20

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jlchucker wrote:
Washita wrote:
Nicknack wrote:Model 92's in Australia are hard to find with a good bore and in original unaltered condition.I like both the 25-20 and the 38-40 I would get the rifle that is is the better condition which sounds like the 25-20. You will look at sometimes 50 to a 100 92's before you can find one with an exceptional bore especially in Australia were most of the bores are worn out or badly neglected. If you don't buy the 25-20 you will forever be kicking yourself for letting it slip away.You will pay over $1,500 for a Marlin Cowboy or a Chiappa copy in OZ.I would rather buy something with a bit of history than a newer version. You will not regret it if it is as good as you mention.The brass and projectiles are readily available for reloading so no problem there,to me the 25-20 is like a big 22 Magnum but more versatile.
Good Luck

Here is my old posting of a model 1892 circa 1913 all original with a 98% bore. The only thing is years ago some numnuts drilled and taped the side for a receiver scope mount! but for the $250 i paid for it it was still a bargain
http://www.levergunscommunity.com/viewt ... =1&t=27351

Also My favorite 92 a 32-20 Winchester with an original Winchester stainless steel barrel,another old posting
http://www.levergunscommunity.com/viewt ... =1&t=27354
Beautiful rifles. I especially like the .25-20 with the button magazine, my favorite look for a 92. Wouldn't it be nice to see Rossi come out with a 92 having a half-round barrel, button mag and CCH receiver in a small CF cal. like, say, .32 H&R or .327 Magnum? I'd be first in line to buy one of these puppies!
Why not a Rossi in 25-20 or 32-20, or even 38-40? They already offer a 44-40, and the rest would just make the family complete. Components, dies, and molds are all available for these calibers, and the 92 was originally designed for them all. Should be minimal feeding problems with these bottleneck cartridges.
.25/20 or .32/20 would be great! Just thought it might be easier to find cases for .32 H&R, easier to reload with carbide sizing die and maybe more successful commercially. But the cal. would be less important to me than the design.
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