Opinions on scout scope set up.
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Opinions on scout scope set up.
I would like the opinion of those who have the scout scope set up on any of their rifles, and why you went with it. I would also the opinion of those who have tried a scout scope but decided against. I'm already aware that some feel it is blasphemy to put a scope on a levergun. I recently checked out a Marlin 1894 set up with a Burris Scout Scope. I thought it was probably quick on target but seemed to have a limited field of view. Maybe F.O.V. doesn't matter so much with a low powered scope and both eyes kept open. I have a standard 4x scope mounted on my 1894 which I feel is fast on target and has a good F.O.V. and sufficient magnification, but I'm also very used to shooting it that way. I have read the scout scopes aren't as good in low light situations as standard scopes. So tell me what ya'll think: pros-cons, advatages-disadvantages.
I have a couple that I've had on rifles, (leupold 2x's) and with both eyes open, they work great. Low light, absolutely no problem. I don't use them for myself, but have one on a 336 in .356 winchester that I load way down for the grandkids to shoot.
No gripes from me. They work extremely well for me, and retain the convenient carrying capability of the lever rifle as well.
No gripes from me. They work extremely well for me, and retain the convenient carrying capability of the lever rifle as well.
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I have an 1895GS set up with AO scout mount and Leupold Scout Scope with the Leupold QRWs. Have the AO Ghost Ring and a HiViz front sight. I could not be happier. The Leupold is quicker than open sights or even the ghost ring. When I was younger, I prolly wouldn't have gone this way, but old eyes are grateful eyes
I had one on my Marlin guide gun - but I have since taken it off. It did not really work for me becuase I am cross eye dominate - my left eye, but I shoot right handed so I have to squint or close one eye to shoot (most times).
I can see where they could be fast to get into action and use - but have gone to straight peep sights or the normal scope set-ups.
I can see where they could be fast to get into action and use - but have gone to straight peep sights or the normal scope set-ups.
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I have a Leopold Scout on my 1895M / 450, Springfield SOCOM16 and a Ruger 10/22 (Buris) and couldn't be happier with them. To me they seem to be very quick on target and my not-so-good vision it better than open sights for things like counting points on antlers. The part of PA where I do most of my hunting has an antler restriction of 5 points. Just quicker and easier than fumbling around for a pair of binoculars.
The 10/22 is the cat's behind when comes to moving targets like knocking red squerills out of the trees!
The 10/22 is the cat's behind when comes to moving targets like knocking red squerills out of the trees!
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I hear what you guys are saying, but is a scout truly faster than a standard scope set up. I'm wondering if the speed in getting on target is just a function of the low (relative to most scopes) power and the target being in the same focal plane (is this the correct term?) as the reticle (which is not the case with aperature or open sights).
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For me it is much faster than a standard scope.
I had a little 4x on my AR and switched to an EOTECH holosight on a scout mount. My times at the IDPA carbine matches were 1/3 less with the holosight.
I have a Weaver 4x on my 94 30-30. to me it's kinda awkward. Going to put an XS scout mount and another Leopold as soon as I can.
Most of the hunting I do is in pretty dense woods. A 100 yd shot is rare.
To me it's as quick handling as open sights with the bonus of magnification. But that's just me.
I had a little 4x on my AR and switched to an EOTECH holosight on a scout mount. My times at the IDPA carbine matches were 1/3 less with the holosight.
I have a Weaver 4x on my 94 30-30. to me it's kinda awkward. Going to put an XS scout mount and another Leopold as soon as I can.
Most of the hunting I do is in pretty dense woods. A 100 yd shot is rare.
To me it's as quick handling as open sights with the bonus of magnification. But that's just me.
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I had a Burris Scout scope set up on my Marlin 1894P in a LeverScout mount.
I thought the Burris scope too limiting, having had wide prior scope experience - and so replaced it twice.
First, with a Weaver Classic 2-7x28 pistol scope, which also didn't "work" due to it's eye relief window being too long for my ergonomic at 11"-21".
It has worn a Weaver Classic 2x28 pistol scope, for the last several years, that has an eye relief window that works perfectly for me ergonomically at 9"-17".
The new Weaver(s) cost me about half of a Burris (or Leupold) Scout scope - a plus.
YMMV, regarding the eye relief "fit" to you - definitely.
IMHO, The proper scope, in the scout position, is a lot faster to use than a scope mounted in the standard rear position - and handles about like a good ghost ring peep sight with better clarity, target definition and dim-light capability.
My left-eye-dominant 40 y.o. son also finds it so, but I caught his eye dominance when he was 7 or 8, and trained him to shoot from his left shoulder then - so it seems as normal to him now as it does to me, a right handed, right-eyed shooter.
I thought the Burris scope too limiting, having had wide prior scope experience - and so replaced it twice.
First, with a Weaver Classic 2-7x28 pistol scope, which also didn't "work" due to it's eye relief window being too long for my ergonomic at 11"-21".
It has worn a Weaver Classic 2x28 pistol scope, for the last several years, that has an eye relief window that works perfectly for me ergonomically at 9"-17".
The new Weaver(s) cost me about half of a Burris (or Leupold) Scout scope - a plus.
YMMV, regarding the eye relief "fit" to you - definitely.
IMHO, The proper scope, in the scout position, is a lot faster to use than a scope mounted in the standard rear position - and handles about like a good ghost ring peep sight with better clarity, target definition and dim-light capability.
My left-eye-dominant 40 y.o. son also finds it so, but I caught his eye dominance when he was 7 or 8, and trained him to shoot from his left shoulder then - so it seems as normal to him now as it does to me, a right handed, right-eyed shooter.
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I had one on my Mosin for one trip to the range. It needed to be bore sighted after installation which I was not able to do. I did really like the sight picture though; it had an NcStar 2.5 on it.
At first I thought it looked pretty neat on the rifle, but after a little while it lost it's appeal. I would like to give another one a try on something different, like a 336 or something.
At first I thought it looked pretty neat on the rifle, but after a little while it lost it's appeal. I would like to give another one a try on something different, like a 336 or something.
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I've only tried a couple setups, but never could warm up to them. I like receiver or tang 'peeps' or a conventional scope in rear position. Now I HAVE used red dot sights in 'scout' position, and I find them very fast and easy to use.
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I gave the scout scope a good try, and hunted with it last year, some. Unfortunately I am right eyed and left handed so it's hard to use with both eyes open. But even if my eyes were right it no faster then a low power regular scope. I shoot both right handed and lefthanded, so I have tried the both eyes open method with both types of scopes and both eyes open is better, but you can do just as fast a shooting with a regular scope, if it is of low power and set up right for quick handling.
And that is the problem with lots of scope users, they bolt on a big 3x9 or even bigger scope, pay little attention to eye relief, and don't get the rest of their rifle set up right for fast handling. I am personally never happy with a rifle unless it comes up like a fine shotgun that fits me to a tee. I will cut stocks, mess with recoil pads, change sights and fuss with a gun until it is just right for me, or I get rid of it.
At anyrate, I found the scout scope lacking. I don't think it is for me. I would much rather have a Leupold 1.5x5 or 2.5x7 regular scope, or on some guns a straight 4x or 6x Leupold. The rest wear some form of iron sights, often receiver sights, but not always.
And that is the problem with lots of scope users, they bolt on a big 3x9 or even bigger scope, pay little attention to eye relief, and don't get the rest of their rifle set up right for fast handling. I am personally never happy with a rifle unless it comes up like a fine shotgun that fits me to a tee. I will cut stocks, mess with recoil pads, change sights and fuss with a gun until it is just right for me, or I get rid of it.
At anyrate, I found the scout scope lacking. I don't think it is for me. I would much rather have a Leupold 1.5x5 or 2.5x7 regular scope, or on some guns a straight 4x or 6x Leupold. The rest wear some form of iron sights, often receiver sights, but not always.
This isn't a scope, but a holographic sight. It is very fast, probably faster than open sights.
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