OT- Ruger 77/357

[Bigahh]

http://www.ruger.com/products/rotaryMag ... odels.html

[Ji in Hawaii]

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Material Finish Front Sight Rear Sight Length of Pull Twist Grooves
Stainless Steel Brushed Stainless Gold Bead Adjustable 13.50" 1:16" RH 8

Cat. # Mod. # Caliber Cap. Stock BarrelLength OverallLength Weight Sug.
K77/357-RSP 7405 .357 Mag. 5 Black Synthetic 18.50" 38.50" 5.50 lbs. $793.00

[Old Ironsights]

And yet, they never made a 96/357...

[Alan Wood]

Wonder how accurate they are?
Alan Wood

[AJMD429]

And yet, they never made a 96/357...

Yeah, I would have loved one of those...

...or one in .32-20, or .327 Fed, or .480 Ruger, .45 Colt, etc.....

Wonder how accurate they are?
Alan Wood

My 77/44 is certainly as accurate as I am, and when I briefly owned a Handi-Rifle in .44 Mag, the 77/44 could equal or better it.

One nice thing on the Ruger 44's (77/44 bolt-action, and 96/44 lever-action - don't know about their semiauto 44) is the twist is 1:20, and that might better stabilize longer/heavier bullets. I generally shoot 240 grains though, so it is immaterial to me.

I wonder if that action would feed a .357 Maximum...

[Jeff H]

VERY cool!

I would have taken a 96-44 if they had still been making them, but a .357 would have been a dream.

[horsesoldier03]

.357 and only holds 5 rds. I would rather have the Marlin 1894 it holds 9 rds and has more class!

[Rusty]

How long before the brothers Quinn put one of these thru it's paces?

[jhrosier]

Does $800 sound like an awful lot of money, or is it just me?

Jack

[Bigahh]

Street price should be just above 600.00, its a Lightweight also

[86er]

If the stock were shorter, like 11.5" instead of 13.5", it would be better applicable to kids or the smaller person interested in light weight and low recoil. I can't tell if it has the 3 position safety or something else. The 3 position safety is another turn-off for kids, ladies and those with less hand strength and dexterity. I'm sure there is a niche for this rifle, but I think Ruger is misssing a big (actually a "small") audience with the otherwise full-sized features.

[adirondakjack]

With the recent stumbles we've seen from Marlin, I think Ruger senses an "in". The .357 has been quietly soldiering in the leverguns for years to an audience far beyond the levergun nuts and CAS practicioners. Lets face it, a bolt gun is simpler and if it catches the attention of even half the potential buyers of a Marlin in .357, it'll do fine.

[Rusty]

Jeff Quinn says he is expecting his in today for testing. This could be good.

[Jeff H]

Does $800 sound like an awful lot of money, or is it just me?

Jack

Yes, but even $600 does to me.

I hadn't bought a gun or any reloading components for about five or six years when I went looking for something in early '09 and HOLY COW!!! What a jump in prices! I had a notion that I would find a Rossi '92 carbine for $250 right about that time and that just wasn't the case.

Since this is not a pocket auto, 1911 clone or "black rifle" (in the typical sense), I wonder if it's a sign that we might start seeing more emphasis come back onmore traditional sporting-type arms. I think the Ruger levers might have still been around had it not been for production demands for CCW type stuff. I may be completely wrong about that - maybe even just hoping.

In any case, prices just seem so high on guns these days and not over a decade or two, but in just a couple years.

[adirondakjack]

Jeff, EVERYTHING seems high to me, until I drive by the local coin dealer. He has a sign out front with "today's gold", and the price of gold for that day. Last price I remember was $1540. Just a few years ago it was a whole bunch less, which is to say, our dollars ain't buying much these days.....

[horsesoldier03]

Excellent point on the modern blunders that Marlin has started putting out. I guess I was really refering to the older ones. 86er brings up a good point as well. It would make an excellent kids gun! However, there arnt too many synthetic stocked rifles that are modern production that I would be willing to drop 6 bills on! CALL ME CHEAP!

[AJMD429]

I have shot a .357 Handi-Rifle and know many who enjoy theirs, so the concept of a .357 lightweight rifle that isn't a lever-action IS popular, for whatever reason. Personally, as much as I like bolt-actions (and lever-actions, and break-opens, and falling-blocks, and etc...), I would probably just get a Handi-Rifle if I wanted a non-lever .357 Mag rifle.

My reasoning is that since I already have a lever one, the only other 'niche' to fill with a .357 Mag rifle would be either a super-accurate one, one that can use unusually long cartridge loadings, or one to mount a suppressor on. I think the Handi or similar gun would be easily as accurate or potentially more so, easier/cheaper to get threaded for a suppressor, and essentially no limit on cartridge length, for far less money (actually, a Handi-Rifle, 9mm suppressor, and $200 tax stamp might still be less than the Ruger 77/357).

Having said all that, the same arguments all apply to the 77/44 vs. a .44 Mag Handi, and I sold my .44 Mag Handi and kept the 77/44 - it is just a well-made gun. . . and. . . it's a Ruger ).

[Rusty]

Doc, did your Handi have the oversized bore? Mine seems OK but I've never sluged it or shot anything except Wincherster white box 240 grainers thru it.

[6pt-sika]

I wonder if that action would feed a .357 Maximum...

The 357 and 44 MAG don't really intrest me or the 357 MAX . However one in 480 Ruger might be intresting !

[6pt-sika]

A cartridge for this rifle of 357 MAX proportions would be easy enough . Take a 77/44 and rebarrel it with a 77/357 barrel then run a reamer up in for the 357/44 Bain and Davis .

[AJMD429]

A cartridge for this rifle of 357 MAX proportions would be easy enough . Take a 77/44 and rebarrel it with a 77/357 barrel then run a reamer up in for the 357/44 Bain and Davis .

Yep. Almost did that with a Marlin 1894-SS so I could have a stainless ".357 Mag" 1894 by just re-barreling. Then they came out with the 1894C-SS, so I didn't bother.

Just thinking along those lines, though - what if you took the huge .480 Ruger case and necked it down to .44 or .45. . . ? That might be pretty interesting.

[AJMD429]

Doc, did your Handi have the oversized bore? Mine seems OK but I've never sluged it or shot anything except Wincherster white box 240 grainers thru it.

When I found a good deal on a couple used Handi's in .44 Mag and .357 Mag, I bought them both; the .44 to have a 'reference gun' that I could shoot to see what the potential accuracy of .44 Mag was with as many 'gun' variables removed as possible, and the .357 for a possible .357 Max conversion. The guns were both quite accurate with pretty much anything I fed them (nothing over 265 gr or 180 gr respectively) - both (with my 32x BSA 'grouping' scope that has broken windage adjustment) easily 3-shots in under 2" at 100 yards off a rest. Never slugged either bore. When I got a chance to buy an 1894C-SS, I quickly sold both Handi's, as I'd found the .357 one was not the right frame for a .357 Max conversion (larger firing-pin hole and weaker lockup than their rifle-only one - mine was on their 'shotgun' frame), and didn't really need the .44 Mag.

[Jeff H]

My "collection" has been pared down to what gets used and a couple my Dad gave me and none of it is pricey or anything others might covet, but this one is tugging. I have been pretty well satisfied with what I have and just don't get all worked up about the next new thing (or old thing) because what I have works and I enjoy it, but this one is tugging at me.

I have to find SOMETHING wrong with it so I don't want it......

OK, the stock is WAY too long - that's ONE!

And the magazine might (might) limit overall length,............. wait, my Rossi does that already.......

OK, OK, the stock is WAY too long - that's TWO!

I guess I am going to have to settle for that excuse even though I have shortened nearly every stock I have ever owned, to include "tupperware" stock.

[AJMD429]

One thing worth noting on the stock - Ruger has been releasing the .44 Mag model with camo stocks for a few months, so presumably they will do for the .357 Mag one soon...



...in fact, I wouldn't be surprised if the stocks are interchangeable.

My bolt action .22 LR Ruger 77/22 is 39.25" and weighs 6.00 pounds,
Compare - the .44 Mag Ruger 77/44 at 38.50" and weight 5.25 pounds, so
the .44 Mag model is both lighter and shorter than the .22 LR one...!

This new .357 Mag Ruger 77/357 says 38.50" and weight 5.50 pounds - about the same.

Their .22 Hornet model 77/22 is 43.25" and 7.50 pounds.

[Sixgun]

Interesting concept. Although I'm not a boltgun guy, there's plenty of possibilities in this rig. Kinda like a "grown up" 32-20 with the greater strength & accuracy of a boltgun and without the heavier recoil of a .44 mag. I had a 788 Rem. in 44 mag and that baby had some kick to it---but then again, if you want the power, you gotta deal with the other end of it.

110 gr. to 180's, jacketed or cast, easily available & cheap componets-------if you like boltguns. -----------------------Sixgun