Amazed by the wild hog problem!
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Amazed by the wild hog problem!
I was amazed at the problem hogs have become in the USA. To my knowledge they are in some areas of Canada but far from a problem. In the west and north I know bears LOVE hog meat.
The devastated farms I see on cable tv are shocking. A guy is doing a real service for his nation hunting these things.
Is it as bad as the tv makes it out to be?
The devastated farms I see on cable tv are shocking. A guy is doing a real service for his nation hunting these things.
Is it as bad as the tv makes it out to be?
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Re: Amazed by the wild hog problem!
Do not think that Canada will escape the hog plague.
They can begin breeding at 6 months and can have three liters of about 12 shoats per - a year. I sincerely do not think that the bears will be able to keep up with the hogs. Mature boars are a force to be delt with as well - not so easy for a bear to take down. Wolves, yes, but again, the hogs will simply outbreed this.
They spread faster than any other comparable large animal and easily adapt to the cold.
They tear the heck out of farms yes - their rooting behavior really messes things up and they can eat just about anything. They devistate crops that they get into. The rooting is for grubs and insects though.
They can begin breeding at 6 months and can have three liters of about 12 shoats per - a year. I sincerely do not think that the bears will be able to keep up with the hogs. Mature boars are a force to be delt with as well - not so easy for a bear to take down. Wolves, yes, but again, the hogs will simply outbreed this.
They spread faster than any other comparable large animal and easily adapt to the cold.
They tear the heck out of farms yes - their rooting behavior really messes things up and they can eat just about anything. They devistate crops that they get into. The rooting is for grubs and insects though.
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Re: Amazed by the wild hog problem!
The reason I'm asking is a report that showed a time lapse map of the spread of hogs over the next ten years or so. No idea who produced the graphics but the northward spread was dramatic and didn't stop at the border.
When I was a kid in southern Ontario racoons were not real common. They have taken over the farmland and cities now. Actually saw an oppossum road kill there a few years ago and they did not exist there when I was a kid. Kinda reminded me of a dirty white diseased rat! Just wondering about a hog invasion.
My uncle raised hogs in northern Alberta when I was a kid. It was full time work dragging dead bears off with the tractor for him. He shot a lot of them in the fifties with a 30-30 Winchester at corral range. He was a transplanted Yankee so that is why it wasn't a 303. He had been a sargeant in Patton's tank corp and pretty handy with a lever rifle and GI 45 auto that found its way north.
When I was a kid in southern Ontario racoons were not real common. They have taken over the farmland and cities now. Actually saw an oppossum road kill there a few years ago and they did not exist there when I was a kid. Kinda reminded me of a dirty white diseased rat! Just wondering about a hog invasion.
My uncle raised hogs in northern Alberta when I was a kid. It was full time work dragging dead bears off with the tractor for him. He shot a lot of them in the fifties with a 30-30 Winchester at corral range. He was a transplanted Yankee so that is why it wasn't a 303. He had been a sargeant in Patton's tank corp and pretty handy with a lever rifle and GI 45 auto that found its way north.
Re: Amazed by the wild hog problem!
I think that's 3 litters in 2 years, which is still plenty fast, but probably a little slower in the North.
N. Europe and Russia has had wild boar since always, so they will adapt. Just got to eat a lot of them.
N. Europe and Russia has had wild boar since always, so they will adapt. Just got to eat a lot of them.
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Re: Amazed by the wild hog problem!
I keep hearing reports of hogs in this vicinity. Just haven't seen sign in my immediate local area (other that our famed UofA Razorbacks ). Don't know if that's a good sign or not as I sure would like to bag one in the not too distance future. Even got my "shooter" selected for the occasion.
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Re: Amazed by the wild hog problem!
GCS - no, its 3 per year. Not that they will have 3 but they can. How many depends on the environment of course - amount and quality of food available, etc.
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Re: Amazed by the wild hog problem!
I wish some of them could migrate up here in Maine. Just don't know how well they'll do in the deep snow come January!
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Re: Amazed by the wild hog problem!
When I was a kid and a young hunter, there was no such things as wild hogs in most of Texas. Over in East Texas, there were a few European/Russian hogs that had been released for hunting. Today they are a plague in South Texas where I grew up and live today. A sow will give birth to three litter a years.
Re: Amazed by the wild hog problem!
A few years ago there was a fellow ridding his motorcycle northbound on I-75 just south of Tampa. A wild hog ran out in front of him, he was killed in the collision. How dangerous is that. I see dead hogs on the roadside all the time.
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Re: Amazed by the wild hog problem!
Texas just made it legal to hunt them from Helicopters.
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Re: Amazed by the wild hog problem!
Wish they would do that for wolves around here.RKrodle wrote:Texas just made it legal to hunt them from Helicopters.
Re: Amazed by the wild hog problem!
Saw 2 fair sized hogs( in different locations) on the way to town this morning that had been hit by cars, its 12 miles to town (East Texas).
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Re: Amazed by the wild hog problem!
I saw on a wild hog show based in Florida, that they estimate there to be a million wild hogs in that state and in order to keep it at that number they would have to remove 60% of that population every year.
Re: Amazed by the wild hog problem!
I was going by what a hog guide at a Sportsmans show told me, I didn't do the math.
I'm sure though that 60% removal won't keep them stable, it takes 60% removal of over populated Whitetails for several years to cut them back, 50% just keeps them at status quo and they only have 1 or 2 a year. Or so the Biologist claimed.
I'm sure though that 60% removal won't keep them stable, it takes 60% removal of over populated Whitetails for several years to cut them back, 50% just keeps them at status quo and they only have 1 or 2 a year. Or so the Biologist claimed.
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Re: Amazed by the wild hog problem!
Wanted to go to Texas a few years back to hunt hogs. All the cotton farmers in the panhandle were b****ing about crop damage. Every one I contacted wanted a $100.00 a day to shoot them. Hey, its your problem and you want to charge me to help out? Dont think so.
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Re: Amazed by the wild hog problem!
+2gcs wrote:I was going by what a hog guide at a Sportsmans show told me, I didn't do the math.
I'm sure though that 60% removal won't keep them stable, it takes 60% removal of over populated Whitetails for several years to cut them back, 50% just keeps them at status quo and they only have 1 or 2 a year. Or so the Biologist claimed.
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Re: Amazed by the wild hog problem!
Pdogshooter, I'm with you.. I'm not paying to hunt something that is a problem to the landowner. How's about paying me to come and clean a few out of your woodlot?? I can be reached at lesstaley@gmail.com Les
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Re: Amazed by the wild hog problem!
+1Les Staley wrote:Pdogshooter, I'm with you.. I'm not paying to hunt something that is a problem to the landowner. How's about paying me to come and clean a few out of your woodlot?? I can be reached at lesstaley@gmail.com Les
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Re: Amazed by the wild hog problem!
Exactly! That's B.S. for sure.pdawg.shooter wrote:Wanted to go to Texas a few years back to hunt hogs. All the cotton farmers in the panhandle were b****ing about crop damage. Every one I contacted wanted a $100.00 a day to shoot them. Hey, its your problem and you want to charge me to help out? Dont think so.
I hunted a ranch just outside Laredo a few years ago (paid for by my then wealthy cousin). I got my deer on the first day and was then sent on a mission to eliminate as many wild hogs as I could kill in the next two days. I killed 38...after running out of ammo from the 44 rounds that I took with me on the hunt. They skinned 'em and put some in the freezer for the local ranch hands, donated some, and burned the rest as the were kinda shot up. After seeing what ranch owners think of them and the killing that I did, I would never ever PAY someone to hunt them.
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Re: Amazed by the wild hog problem!
That sounds familiar, here in UT. there is a problem with Snow geese, the farmers bitch about all the damage they do on their trip back up north, so they started a special hunt to get rid of them, and guess what...exactly those same farmers are charging to hunt on their land!!pdawg.shooter wrote:Wanted to go to Texas a few years back to hunt hogs. All the cotton farmers in the panhandle were b****ing about crop damage. Every one I contacted wanted a $100.00 a day to shoot them. Hey, its your problem and you want to charge me to help out? Dont think so.
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Re: Amazed by the wild hog problem!
Yeah no kidding, UT is one of the few states that doesn't have a wild hog problem, I know it's not good, but I still wish we had them hereMainehunter wrote:I wish some of them could migrate up here in Maine. Just don't know how well they'll do in the deep snow come January!
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