Pumps have been mentioned, rare guns but still historic
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Pumps have been mentioned, rare guns but still historic
I have pumps in centerfire and I love them. 2 Colt Lightnings, a Burgess Wrist/slide-pump action rifle and shotgun. The Burgess guns are really rare. Andrew Burgess was a gun designer, second only to John M. Browning in his gun genius. Here are some pictures...
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Wow Those are some beauts, Shrapnel. And mighty fine photography, too. Thanks for showing them.
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Double that WOW!
Tell us about those 3 SA's as well
Tell us about those 3 SA's as well
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The Colt's are first gneration guns in 45 Colt, 44-40 and 38-40. I use them all and shoot Cowboy Action with them as well. The 45 has handmade Rosewood grips, the 44-40 has Ivory grips, the 38-40 has buffalo bone grips. I have seven SAA's total, here are some close-ups of the buffalo bone grips on the 2 38-40's...
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Awsome! I just went low on drool
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That Burgess wrist-action pump is wild. I'd love to see a video of that gun being fired.
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I knew you had some nice guns, but wow. You're a lucky man.
I see you like the longer tubes in your Colt SAA's. Tell us about the sub 4 3/4" one with the Bisley hammer spur.
I see you like the longer tubes in your Colt SAA's. Tell us about the sub 4 3/4" one with the Bisley hammer spur.
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The Colt has it's own unique provenance, but it wouldn't have the impact without the letter that I got with it...kimwcook wrote:I knew you had some nice guns, but wow. You're a lucky man.
I see you like the longer tubes in your Colt SAA's. Tell us about the sub 4 3/4" one with the Bisley hammer spur.
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man the burgess two barrel set is something. i bid on a set like that in the fairly recent past but was outbid! maybe by you or have you had it a long time..
man, please tell us more about that one, please?
man, please tell us more about that one, please?
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There is no known set other than this one. I did get it at auction about a year and 1/2 ago. James Julia had another one, but it was a single rifle, no second barrel. I saw it in Cody at the WACA show in June and that is when I realized I would like the Burgess. It was listed as a Colt-Burgess, but it obviously isn't. I would guess this is the same gun.hfcable wrote:man the burgess two barrel set is something. i bid on a set like that in the fairly recent past but was outbid! maybe by you or have you had it a long time..
man, please tell us more about that one, please?
Andrew Burgess was a gun designer and eventually started his own gun company in the 1890's. This gun was made there only as a low production gun that never made it into full production to create any real market.
He also built the same type of shotgun, which I pictured here too. I have been collectiong whatever I can on Burgess and his guns. These Whitney Kennedy's are of Burgess design as well, one is a saddle ring carbine, the other is an early "S" lever, both in 44-40
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yep, that is the one! glad you got it, i didn't bid nearly high enough. i like the burgess guns too. i have an s lever 1878 burgess 45/70 with excellent bore, and this nice whitney kennedy 44 with the s lever:
it has a mirror bore and is smooth as silk
man, i can never get enough of this stuff! you really have some treasures!
it has a mirror bore and is smooth as silk
man, i can never get enough of this stuff! you really have some treasures!
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Lovely guns!! Thank you for sharing!.. very informative Count me in for a range report on any of your firearms Sir
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Wow, that is amazing to meet a fellow bidder on the same gun. Here is a picture of the Whitney Kennedy rifle with it's first kill...hfcable wrote:yep, that is the one! glad you got it, i didn't bid nearly high enough. i like the burgess guns too. i have an s lever 1878 burgess 45/70 with excellent bore, and this nice whitney kennedy 44 with the s lever:
it has a mirror bore and is smooth as silk
man, i can never get enough of this stuff! you really have some treasures!
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yes, it is amazing to see who else lusts for the rare and unusual old guns of the west!Shrapnel wrote:Wow, that is amazing to meet a fellow bidder on the same gun. Here is a picture of the Whitney Kennedy rifle with it's first kill...hfcable wrote:yep, that is the one! glad you got it, i didn't bid nearly high enough. i like the burgess guns too. i have an s lever 1878 burgess 45/70 with excellent bore, and this nice whitney kennedy 44 with the s lever:
it has a mirror bore and is smooth as silk
man, i can never get enough of this stuff! you really have some treasures!
nice kill! what kinda load u use in the whitney? mine key holes with .427 bullets, gonna have to use larger or use soft lead and black powder
would like to take a deer [ or a caribou ] with mine
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I use Cowboy Action bullets at .429 and they shoot great. The Burgess rifle has an oversized bore on it, but luckily, it shoots great too. The rifling looks like a cannon at the muzzle...hfcable wrote: yes, it is amazing to see who else lusts for the rare and unusual old guns of the west!
nice kill! what kinda load u use in the whitney? mine key holes with .427 bullets, gonna have to use larger or use soft lead and black powder
would like to take a deer [ or a caribou ] with mine
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That letter from Venturino is a hoot Looking at some of you fella's pics can get very expensive for a man like myself with very little impulse control
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Great photos, Shrapnel. I really like that SxS double. Just wow.
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Nice carbine shrapnel. You ever decide to move it out give me a holler, I'm looking for a W-K SRC in 44-40. bbsoda
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WELL thats AWESOME
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I'm callin the Sheriff. I think I know who broke into the NRA national museum a while back.....
MV wrote an article and borrowed that Burgess if I recall... I think he said from "a friend"
Thanks for sharing your collection with us once again. You just don't see that kind of gun porn everywhere....
MV wrote an article and borrowed that Burgess if I recall... I think he said from "a friend"
Thanks for sharing your collection with us once again. You just don't see that kind of gun porn everywhere....
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This thread remind me of just how close I was to buying a Taurus Thunderbolt in 45 long... Sexy things but I heard too many stories of feed issues to take a chance.
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Thanks for sharing Shrapnel
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O.S.O.K. wrote:I'm callin the Sheriff. I think I know who broke into the NRA national museum a while back.....
MV wrote an article and borrowed that Burgess if I recall... I think he said from "a friend"
Thanks for sharing your collection with us once again. You just don't see that kind of gun porn everywhere....
This was the magazine and article from January 2011...
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Dont suppose there is patent drawing for that wrist pump? She is awesome....I would happily pay a couple hundred dollars for scaled drawings of that action if someday you would draw it out and sell the drawings to hobby gunsmiths like myself.. .. I spend months of my freetime building functioning replicas of common guns, its a shame I dont spend that time recreating something rare and wonderful and made in America...
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now i need t find that issue and read the rest of it. thanks.
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I haven't seen any such thing, and I keep my eye out for anything Burgess related. If you really are capable of reproducing that gun, you would be amazed at the quality of workmanship on this gun. Come on over to my house and I would be glad to have you look at it and measure it for yourself. You could maybe build us each a copy, I doubt it would take long or cost much...Alphawolf45 wrote:Dont suppose there is patent drawing for that wrist pump? She is awesome....I would happily pay a couple hundred dollars for scaled drawings of that action if someday you would draw it out and sell the drawings to hobby gunsmiths like myself.. .. I spend months of my freetime building functioning replicas of common guns, its a shame I dont spend that time recreating something rare and wonderful and made in America...
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+1 ...thank you for posting... :)earlmck wrote:Wow :!: Those are some beauts, Shrapnel. And mighty fine photography, too. Thanks for showing them.
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WOW !!!!!!!!!!!! Love those guns.
I have one of the Taurus Thunderbolts and love it. No problems. I think they stoped making them.
I have one of the Taurus Thunderbolts and love it. No problems. I think they stoped making them.
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ShrapnelShrapnel wrote:I haven't seen any such thing, and I keep my eye out for anything Burgess related. If you really are capable of reproducing that gun, you would be amazed at the quality of workmanship on this gun. Come on over to my house and I would be glad to have you look at it and measure it for yourself. You could maybe build us each a copy, I doubt it would take long or cost much...Alphawolf45 wrote:Dont suppose there is patent drawing for that wrist pump? She is awesome....I would happily pay a couple hundred dollars for scaled drawings of that action if someday you would draw it out and sell the drawings to hobby gunsmiths like myself.. .. I spend months of my freetime building functioning replicas of common guns, its a shame I dont spend that time recreating something rare and wonderful and made in America...
Unfortunately I am only a hobbiest and cannot work on anybody elses guns because of numerous laws against unlicensed folks doing that very thing....And anyway I am no Turnbull either.. But I am a machinist with shop full of machinery and should be able to replicate that wrist pump rifle/shotgun if I had a fair set of drawings.You may have seen some of my builds on this forum ..
http://www.levergunscommunity.com/viewt ... =1&t=23992
That is an awesome firearm and I very nearly salivated on my screen when I seen it first on Bruce Hamlins Pump Rifle forum.. I bet it causes quite a commotion when you pull it out to shoot cowboy action..
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Thanks for posting. Interesting rifle. The Venturino letter was a nice touch.
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+1 Fighting massive dehydration here too!casastahle wrote:Awsome! I just went low on drool