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With the exception of 2 Craftsman folding Hex Key sets, I have never bought a hex key in my life.

So why is it I have a 1lb sour cream tub full of them and find more everywhere I look? :?
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Maybe its mating season????
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I bought an 8-pc automotive set 30 years ago and a folding set (w\ torx combo) about 20 years ago and I also have like a cigar box full of them in maybe a dozen different sizes, and multiples of each. Didn't deliberatley buy any but the 2 sets.

I admit to picking up stray pennies in parking lots and such, but I do not recall ever adopting a lost hex key or wrench.

Well... now that I think about it... maybe one...

:? :?:
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bicycle - can't live without them - I have a 8mm. Also a bicycle tool hex set packs up a lot smaller than wrenches.
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I swear that hex keys spontaneously reproduce themselves. I have a set in my mechanical tool box and a set with my shooting stuff yet every time I clean up a work space I find more. I now have 3 1/2 sets without any idea as to where the other 1 1/2 came from.

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F0 40 00 10 00 08 09 00 00 01 00 01 0D 09 00 01 00 01
00 01 00 00 00 01 02 04 00 01 08 00 00 01 00 00 00 01
08 00 00 01 00 00 00 01 00 08 00 01 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 01 0E 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 00 01
00 00 00 01 03 0F 00 01 00 01 00 01 03 0F 00 01 07 0F
00 01 00 00 00 01 02 0C 00 01 04 00 00 01 02 08 00 01
03 0E 00 01 03 0F 00 01 03 0E 00 01 00 00 00 01 03 0F
00 01 00 00 00 01 02 0F 00 01 00 00 00 01 02 03 00 01
00 00 00 01 02 05 00 01 04 02 06 01 06 0E 06 0A 06 0F
02 00 02 00 02 00 F7

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I have accumulated a wench or two.
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It`s Allens fault. :lol:
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Pitchy wrote:It`s Allens fault. :lol:
He was always wrenching things...
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Old Ironsights wrote:
Pitchy wrote:It`s Allens fault. :lol:
He was always wrenching things...
That's still no reason to get Torxed at him...
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awp101 wrote:
Old Ironsights wrote:
Pitchy wrote:It`s Allens fault. :lol:
He was always wrenching things...
That's still no reason to get Torxed at him...
:lol: :lol:

Or get bent out of shape. :lol:
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Speaking of Torx, who invented these things? We got along fine without them for a hundred years or so. Then some idiot invents a new fastener and we have to buy "another" set. Well not really one, cuz you need a socket set, a handle with interchangeable bits, a driver set... It just goes on and on. And just when you think you've got all you need, you figure out you don't have the "one" you need for the current job. It must be an evil plot on the part of tool manufacturers, I tell you. :evil:
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Where's Blaine when we need him, probably with Allen Torx.
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Image & Wikipedia are your friends. Not always correct... but often close enough:
Torx (pronounced "torks") developed in 1967[1] by Camcar Textron,[2] is the trademark for a type of screw head characterized by a 6-point star-shaped pattern. People who are unfamiliar with the trademark generally use the term star, as in star screwdriver or star bits. The generic name is hexalobular internal driving feature (often abbreviated as 6lobe) and is standardized by the International Organization for Standardization as ISO 10664.[3] Torx Plus is an improved profile.

They were developed to be more tamper proof than phillips or slot head screws and now have several variants as plain Torx drivers are everywhere.
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And all this a result of hooligans with too much time on thier hands,
I think we should institute a madatory 1 year of national service working on the countries infastructure.
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I think, instead of doing the metric thing, scope ring makers have been investing in tool companies, and birthing the durn things with every set of rings they market.

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El Chivo wrote:F0 40 00 10 00 08 09 00 00 01 00 01 0D 09 00 01 00 01
00 01 00 00 00 01 02 04 00 01 08 00 00 01 00 00 00 01
08 00 00 01 00 00 00 01 00 08 00 01 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 01 0E 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 00 01
00 00 00 01 03 0F 00 01 00 01 00 01 03 0F 00 01 07 0F
00 01 00 00 00 01 02 0C 00 01 04 00 00 01 02 08 00 01
03 0E 00 01 03 0F 00 01 03 0E 00 01 00 00 00 01 03 0F
00 01 00 00 00 01 02 0F 00 01 00 00 00 01 02 03 00 01
00 00 00 01 02 05 00 01 04 02 06 01 06 0E 06 0A 06 0F
02 00 02 00 02 00 F7

:D
Hey I resemble that remark. :D
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El Chivo wrote:F0 40 00 10 00 08 09 00 00 01 00 01 0D 09 00 01 00 01
00 01 00 00 00 01 02 04 00 01 08 00 00 01 00 00 00 01
08 00 00 01 00 00 00 01 00 08 00 01 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 01 0E 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 00 01
00 00 00 01 03 0F 00 01 00 01 00 01 03 0F 00 01 07 0F
00 01 00 00 00 01 02 0C 00 01 04 00 00 01 02 08 00 01
03 0E 00 01 03 0F 00 01 03 0E 00 01 00 00 00 01 03 0F
00 01 00 00 00 01 02 0F 00 01 00 00 00 01 02 03 00 01
00 00 00 01 02 05 00 01 04 02 06 01 06 0E 06 0A 06 0F
02 00 02 00 02 00 F7

:D
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It's been a long time since I looked at one, but is that a hexadecimal sequence (or whatever it's called officially)?
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I must own several dozen to several hundred myself.
I still find set screws that I don`t have a wrench to fit. :x
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Maybe you have the beginnings of being a hoarder :o :shock:
Small things at first then big things.
Quit going to that blasted $ store and buying them in bunches :lol:
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awp101 wrote:
El Chivo wrote:F0 40 00 10 00 08 09 00 00 01 00 01 0D 09 00 01 00 01
00 01 00 00 00 01 02 04 00 01 08 00 00 01 00 00 00 01
08 00 00 01 00 00 00 01 00 08 00 01 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 01 0E 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 00 01
00 00 00 01 03 0F 00 01 00 01 00 01 03 0F 00 01 07 0F
00 01 00 00 00 01 02 0C 00 01 04 00 00 01 02 08 00 01
03 0E 00 01 03 0F 00 01 03 0E 00 01 00 00 00 01 03 0F
00 01 00 00 00 01 02 0F 00 01 00 00 00 01 02 03 00 01
00 00 00 01 02 05 00 01 04 02 06 01 06 0E 06 0A 06 0F
02 00 02 00 02 00 F7

:D
It's been a long time since I looked at one, but is that a hexadecimal sequence (or whatever it's called officially)?
Yes it is a sequence of hexadecimal numbers. However the more I look at it the more convinced that it is a random gibberish sequence ( note that there are 18 pairs of digits per line and most pairs start with the digit 0). :D
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Wish I could have a tub of allen wrenches and not buy them! I've spent a bit on everything from regular allens to ball end allens, to T handle, socket drv=ive allens in 1/4" and 3/8" drive, plus all the same in metric too!
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any body have a gun with a 'hex ' barrel?

[ i have had a few hexed guns for sure ]
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Alan Wood wrote:
awp101 wrote:
El Chivo wrote:F0 40 00 10 00 08 09 00 00 01 00 01 0D 09 00 01 00 01
00 01 00 00 00 01 02 04 00 01 08 00 00 01 00 00 00 01
08 00 00 01 00 00 00 01 00 08 00 01 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 01 0E 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 00 01
00 00 00 01 03 0F 00 01 00 01 00 01 03 0F 00 01 07 0F
00 01 00 00 00 01 02 0C 00 01 04 00 00 01 02 08 00 01
03 0E 00 01 03 0F 00 01 03 0E 00 01 00 00 00 01 03 0F
00 01 00 00 00 01 02 0F 00 01 00 00 00 01 02 03 00 01
00 00 00 01 02 05 00 01 04 02 06 01 06 0E 06 0A 06 0F
02 00 02 00 02 00 F7

:D
It's been a long time since I looked at one, but is that a hexadecimal sequence (or whatever it's called officially)?
Yes it is a sequence of hexadecimal numbers. However the more I look at it the more convinced that it is a random gibberish sequence ( note that there are 18 pairs of digits per line and most pairs start with the digit 0). :D
In honor of Pitchy. This sequence defines a banjo tone for my midi module. After this is done, it can receive note data and play the tune and sound like a banjo.

You can also define the tone with the knobs on the front, but this is easier. One value picks the waveform, then there's attack, decay, pitch, modulation, and a few more. I believe each pair affects a different thing.

The only way to find out what's what is to change something manually and then see what happened to the data.

I do believe that F7 is the universal ending of any string of hex.
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the only allens I've ever seen on a rifle part are installation screws on a Williams FP-GR
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and, yes, most devices that need allen wrenches come with one, so they do seem to breed like rabbits, which can make it harder to find what you need, unless you have one good organized set.
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I can round off those "improved" tork heads just as easy as a slotted/phillips head or as standard Allen head caps screw...
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I don't think torx were intended to be convenient - quite the opposite - they were intended to make it more difficult to remove fasteners, sending you to authorized repair technicians.
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Old Time Hunter wrote:I can round off those "improved" tork heads just as easy as a slotted/phillips head or as standard Allen head caps screw...
I like the torx head wood screws but they sure are spendy :roll:
In honor of Pitchy. This sequence defines a banjo tone for my midi module. After this is done, it can receive note data and play the tune and sound like a banjo.
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yooper2 wrote:I swear that hex keys spontaneously reproduce themselves. I have a set in my mechanical tool box and a set with my shooting stuff yet every time I clean up a work space I find more. I now have 3 1/2 sets without any idea as to where the other 1 1/2 came from.

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El Chivo wrote:
Alan Wood wrote:
awp101 wrote:
El Chivo wrote:F0 40 00 10 00 08 09 00 00 01 00 01 0D 09 00 01 00 01
00 01 00 00 00 01 02 04 00 01 08 00 00 01 00 00 00 01
08 00 00 01 00 00 00 01 00 08 00 01 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 01 0E 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 00 01
00 00 00 01 03 0F 00 01 00 01 00 01 03 0F 00 01 07 0F
00 01 00 00 00 01 02 0C 00 01 04 00 00 01 02 08 00 01
03 0E 00 01 03 0F 00 01 03 0E 00 01 00 00 00 01 03 0F
00 01 00 00 00 01 02 0F 00 01 00 00 00 01 02 03 00 01
00 00 00 01 02 05 00 01 04 02 06 01 06 0E 06 0A 06 0F
02 00 02 00 02 00 F7

:D
It's been a long time since I looked at one, but is that a hexadecimal sequence (or whatever it's called officially)?
Yes it is a sequence of hexadecimal numbers. However the more I look at it the more convinced that it is a random gibberish sequence ( note that there are 18 pairs of digits per line and most pairs start with the digit 0). :D
In honor of Pitchy. This sequence defines a banjo tone for my midi module. After this is done, it can receive note data and play the tune and sound like a banjo.

You can also define the tone with the knobs on the front, but this is easier. One value picks the waveform, then there's attack, decay, pitch, modulation, and a few more. I believe each pair affects a different thing.

The only way to find out what's what is to change something manually and then see what happened to the data.

I do believe that F7 is the universal ending of any string of hex.
Interesting however F7 is not the universal ending of any string of hex. Probably the ending for this but hardly universal.
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Washita wrote:
yooper2 wrote:I swear that hex keys spontaneously reproduce themselves. I have a set in my mechanical tool box and a set with my shooting stuff yet every time I clean up a work space I find more. I now have 3 1/2 sets without any idea as to where the other 1 1/2 came from.

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I once had a friend who swore that paper clips were coat hanger larvae. Had to be--paper clips were always vanishing and wire coat hangers constantly materializing out of nowhere.
Hmm... He might be on to something. I've noticed the same phenomenon my self.
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Hex wrench properly cut and ground to size make fine hollow ground screw drivers. Good steel, may need some heat treat. Some sizes you can use inexpensive file handles. Just Saying....
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Old Ironsights wrote:With the exception of 2 Craftsman folding Hex Key sets, I have never bought a hex key in my life.

So why is it I have a 1lb sour cream tub full of them and find more everywhere I look? :?
I can loan you a hanadful from the 4-5 C that I have. Keep mine in a steel coffee can witha friction lid. Guess that can suggests I have been keeping them for a while. lol

What's my daughter gonna do with all these guns & hex keys when I die?
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What's my daughter gonna do with all these guns & hex keys when I die?
Well have a hex of dog gun sale what else. :lol:
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What irks me as much as anything is that most have no size markings. Who's going to spend the eyeball time and strain to try to size them?
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Old Ironsights wrote:What irks me as much as anything is that most have no size markings. Who's going to spend the eyeball time and strain to try to size them?
That's why you buy them in the plastic holder that has the sizes marked on them. Besides, if they marked the itty bitty ones, you'd need a microscope to read it. I just grab a bunch and try them till one fits.
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