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I had never heard about this one. Short 18.5" barrel, 5.5lbs light, five shot rotary/detachable (no loaded rifles in vehicles in Washington). Weatherproof, and ugly enough to throw around as a knock-around. I like 8)

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Blaine ! I looked at that pic from every angle and every corner, almost stood on My Head trying to find the Ugly factor. It just did not appear. I like it, It's Slick ,Sleek and just plain cool and in a very Popular Caliber. The only thing I can think of that would make it more appealing would be a Wood Stock.
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I have seen them - like to have one.
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pwl44m wrote:Blaine ! I looked at that pic from every angle and every corner, almost stood on My Head trying to find the Ugly factor. It just did not appear. I like it, It's Slick ,Sleek and just plain cool and in a very Popular Caliber. The only thing I can think of that would make it more appealing would be a Wood Stock.
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We have sold a couple but never see them come back. Dittos for the 44 Mag. Typical Ruger quality.
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Jeff Quinn did a story on the both of them. I'm seriously thinking about one in .44 Mag. They have a 1:20 twist which would be great for the heavy weight bullets.
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The .44 Mag one is almost identical to the rimfire 77/22 version, and I'm sure the .357 one is as well...I think that the .44 Mag may even weigh less than the .22 LR (depends on the stock it is wearing).

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My friend has the .44 mag one. Very nice and a good shooter.
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My older friend thats the 35 REMINGTON nut has gotten one of these !

His 77-357 is the stainless synthetic and after that he got himself a 77-44 thats blued and walnut !

Since then he decided he needed the 96-44 and now he's kinda got me looking for a decent Ruger 44RS . If it weren't my grandfathers I have a 44RS that I'd most likely sell him !
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I'll stick with my Navy Arms 1892 and Marlin 1894 in 357. Bolt guns just don't interest me that much.
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Rusty wrote:Jeff Quinn did a story on the both of them. I'm seriously thinking about one in .44 Mag. They have a 1:20 twist which would be great for the heavy weight bullets.
So do the 96/44 lever action ones... 8)

Oddly enough, though they both have the nice flush-fit 4-shot magazines, the 77/44 and 96/44 magazines don't interchange. No big deal though.

I just wish they made the 77/xx and 96/xx series in other chamberings, like .45 Colt, .44-40, .32-20, maybe even .327 Mag, and (of course), .480 Ruger.
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AJMD429 wrote:

I just wish they made the 77/xx in other chamberings, like .327 Federal and .480 Ruger.
Both of those would intrest me !
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I'd get more excited about one in .45 Colt or .454 Casull, but I've always thought they're really nice.

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olyinaz wrote:I'd get more excited about one in .45 Colt or .454 Casull, but I've always thought they're really nice.

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Having seen the .44 mags, I wonder if the .45s are a hair too wide to fit in the necessary circle?
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BlaineG wrote:Having seen the .44 mags, I wonder if the .45s are a hair too wide to fit in the necessary circle?
I've been tempted to disassemble a magazine myself and see if it would be possible.

I just converted my Marlin 1894 .44 Mag to .45 Colt, so you can tell where my thoughts are headed... :wink:
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A 96/.32-20 would be sweet! I couldn't see it happening though.
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A fellow shooter here in Australia has a Ruger 77/44 it's bore was ruined got his gunsmith to fit a .357 barrel on it and chambered it into a 357 Bain and Davis looks the goods!
http://www.australianhunting.net/index. ... ic=81062.0
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Nicknack wrote:A fellow shooter here in Australia has a Ruger 77/44 it's bore was ruined got his gunsmith to fit a .357 barrel on it and chambered it into a 357 Bain and Davis looks the goods!
http://www.australianhunting.net/index. ... ic=81062.0
Can't access that - you might have to post a pic from there for us to see it...
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Nicknack wrote:A fellow shooter here in Australia has a Ruger 77/44 it's bore was ruined got his gunsmith to fit a .357 barrel on it and chambered it into a 357 Bain and Davis looks the goods!
http://www.australianhunting.net/index. ... ic=81062.0
What a great idea!

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I'll bet these are stout-for-hell.....Hot 180 hardcast would be a nice 100 yard, or better, death ray....
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A fellow shooter here in Australia has a Ruger 77/44 it's bore was ruined got his gunsmith to fit a .357 barrel on it and chambered it into a 357 Bain and Davis looks the goods!
http://www.australianhunting.net/index. ... ic=81062.0
This is Short & Fats posting on Australian Hunting Net quoted as he posted it.


I finally got the latest Short and Fat wildcat home for xmas.

OK so the story is I had a nice Ruger 77/44 and I stuffed the barrel, so its been out of action now for about 2 years, I had the barrel removed and have been slowly looking for alternatives and options.

I was a bit limited with the Ruger rotary magazine and bolt face already at 44 Rem mag size so I searched high and low for my options.

Now Con had just completed his 458 B&M on his Stainless Ruger 350 Rem MAg and he had his as new 350 Rem Mag barrel sitting at home collecting dust. We got talking and I did a bit of sniffing around and came across the 357 / 44 Bain and Davis, which was a popular conversion in the USA for .357 Revolvers.

So for mates rates Con handed me the stainless 350 barrel, it needed the old chamber cut off and a bit of thinning down around the knox form and barrel profile was close, it would work, so I set about turning the 44 into a 357/44.

I posted a wanted ad on the AR Forum in the USA and a nice fella over there said he'd send me a reamer for nothing all I had to do was look after it and send it back when finished.

I also got one of our resident US forum members to buy me a set of dies out of the US as well and send them over.

While the Gunsmith had the metal work, I stripped the stock back and oiled it, now that was a pain in the butt, the clear coat on those Rugers is stronger than steel.

Got the phonecall a week ago, it was ready, and with a bit of work it fitted in well, even got the factory Ruger wording on the barrel on top and it looked like a standard factory issued rifle. It's light and topped with my old faithful Japan 2-7 tasco world class, balances very well.

I form the cases by running standard 44 Rem Mag brass into the full length die, it swags it down to 357 and puts a gentle shoulder on the case, it's really that simple, the case needs a mild trim because it grows in length

I have shot off about 10 rounds and it's a bloody noisy bastard, recoil not noticeable, I'll do some load development over the XMAS break but I think 27g of 2205 behind the 125g Hornady XTP will be the load of choice. I'm guessing a velocity of 2450fps out of the 20.5 inch barrel, a trajectory similar to the 22 Hornet, and good to 150/175 meters

The new rounds feed slick out of the Ruger rotary magazine, all in all a very easy change over and will make a thumping fox gun over the summer and a nice introduction to big bores for the boys.

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Man that rifle came out great.

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Here's a link to a 357 "buy it now" for much less than the list price mentioned at the start of this thread...

Ruger 77 357 on GunBroker

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There aren't many mid-range (really 'low-range' by today's power levels) rifles out there these days. The pistol-caliber ones, and .22 Hornet and .223's are about all you see, and it seems like bolt-gun makers feel obligated to use bottleneck cartridges and the maximum power they can squeeze into whatever size action they make.

I guess along that line, maybe Ruger would be interested in barrelling some in .357/44 B&D - it wouldn't require anything other than a different barrel, and I think [?] they could just use their stock .357 barrels and re-chamber them. Since it's a bottle-neck maybe they'd sell. :wink:

Of course today's market treats .30-06 like an underpowered has-been, and .30-30 must be some kid's toy, so that doesn't help matters much. For me, not much is more fun than a good bolt action or lever action or breakopen action or pump action (if I had one) rifle in a 'pistol' caliber.
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I've shot the .44 version. Never actually run into the .357 model though I know it exists.


Some law enforcement types in the south have had a company build integrally-suppressed barrels into the .44 model for heavy subsonic loads to put down deer and other game quietly (roadkills and nuisance animals) so it looks like a standard rifle, but it's packing a 300 grain load without hardly any noise.


I'd actually prefer an aperature sighted .44 model to a lever, having owned the '94 Marlin equivalent. Both are handy, and an iron-sighted bolt gun is just as fast if not faster. Loading's easier too.
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They should go ahead and make these in 35 Rem too. And maybe some other short rifle cartridges.

The .357 Mag one would be very handi though.
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I would be more interested in the .357 Maximum caliber.

I wonder what the maximum action length is on this gun.

Problem with the detachable magazines is the actions can not be opened up for longer than standard COL.
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